Earth begins to kill people for changing its climate

[Arawn-ap-Hywel]

Earth begins to kill people for changing its climate - Pravda.Ru

At least 2.5 million people have been killed in natural disasters over the recent 48 years. The number of casualties over the recent 20 years made up 1.6 million people, the UN said.

Rob Vos, the director of the Development Policy and Analysis Division of the Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA), said that the number of natural disasters taking place in the world nowadays has quadrupled in comparison with the 1970s. The disaster-related economic damage has increased at least seven times.

The authors of the report delivered at the UN headquarters in New York at the session of the UN Economic and Social Council did not specify the reason why natural disasters started happening more frequently in the world today. They said, however, that the frequency of catastrophes could be linked with the global climate change. It was also said that the death toll in developing states exceeds the number of casualties in developed states 20-30 times.

Climate change ?

Or God unhappy with the liberal views of all peoples ?

Just a bit of natural upheaval illustrating mans over population and lack of attunement to the earth?

[ThoughtCriminal]

Even simpler: higher population means more people are around to die. Also, it means people are pushed from safer places to more dangerous ones, in their quest for elbow room.

TC

[Jack]

Too bad some of the most beautiful places to live are also the most dangerous.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Arawn-ap-Hywel Earth begins to kill people for changing its climate - Pravda.Ru Climate change ? Or God unhappy with the liberal views of all peoples ? Just a bit of natural upheaval illustrating mans over population and lack of attunement to the earth?

Don't mess with Mother Nature.

What the story did not mention is how people are attacking the creatures of nature. We are conducting a chemical war on bugs for example. Our activities have endangered many species, we are destroying the rainforests, nearly fishing the oceans dry. And that is party due to more people who live longer. And we polute the things nature needs to survive, the water, the soil, and the air.

Nature has ways of re-establishing a balance.

[Thanatos]

I really dislike those who blame natural disasters on the wrath of God. I was in New Orleans about a year after the storm. Young, old, heart surgeon or prostitute, the flood water was nondiscriminatory. There were plenty of churches near levee breaks. One that I remember quite clearly looked like someone about twenty stories tall had given the front of it a good kick. Wrong denomination I suppose?

It is disrespectful to the innocent dead to suggest such things. I know Arawn did not mean it but there are plenty of people who do.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Thanatos I really dislike those who blame natural disasters on the wrath of God. I was in New Orleans about a year after the storm. Young, old, heart surgeon or prostitute, the flood water was nondiscriminatory. There were plenty of churches near levee breaks. One that I remember quite clearly looked like someone about twenty stories tall had given the front of it a good kick. Wrong denomination I suppose? It is disrespectful to the innocent dead to suggest such things. I know Arawn did not mean it but there are plenty of people who do.

I would agree.

Eveyone and even the animals are effected equally, fair and square..

Some escape and some don't, that also is just a matter of random events and not due to divine choice.

I recall this one fellow who's boat sunk in the ocean and he started to pray and then this turtle appeared and he grabbed on to it and the turtle swam right to the shore (which took a couple of days) and the fellow survived the incident. Everyone knows that is just a normal and logical thing that happens.

[Compugasm]

I remember this one time I had escaped the clutches of a Yeti, and was making my way across the frozen tundra when I collapsed. In my delirium an apparition of Ben Kenobi appeared and said I would go to the Degobah system. Then Han Solo came out of the blizzard and... oh wait.

[Gregory]

This is the premise of the new Shyamalan movie, which turned out to be a huge disappointment.

[ThoughtCriminal]

Quote by: Gregory This is the premise of the new Shyamalan movie, which turned out to be a huge disappointment.

All of them have been, since Unbreakable.

TC

[Laststandb]

Global Warming = Earthquakes?

What are we going to blame global warming on next?

Global Warming= One of the coldest winters?

The authors of the report delivered at the UN headquarters in New York at the session of the UN Economic and Social Council did not specify the reason why natural disasters started happening more frequently in the world today. They said, however, that the frequency of catastrophes could be linked with the global climate change. It was also said that the death toll in developing states exceeds the number of casualties in developed states 20-30 times.

This is great math, testiment to the UN.
If global warming is the sole cause for casulties, then the number should be the same.

But nooo, the cause is from the infrastructure, not global warming. Global warming doesn't cause just poor people to die, it dosn't really actually kill anyone.

So wait, they give a statistic that has nothing to do with global warming and make a statement about global warming.
Laststandb shakes his head in shame

[Technosoul]

Now if the God is a pagan goddess such as Mother Nature then we cannot blame a Christian concept about a God for this war between mankind and the forces that Be.

Nature will win the war ( by the way).

Plow the fields and grow crops instead of poking oil wells in the fields. Make Her happy again.

[Barnicals]

Maybe it is a simple pendulum effect. You start with a wild and untamed world, developing in the right conditions. Man, or a civilised species evolve and attempt to wrestle the natural world to the ground in an effort to sate their desire to succeed as a species. If they fail to find an equalibrium with the natural world, they start to die out as resources (air, food, water, or access to any of the above) run out. Due to this dieoff, nature re-establishes herself in areas where the species has ceased. Nature is damaged, but given time and genetic variation, she may rebuild. This pendulum effect may continue indefinately, until the species find balance with nature.

So yes, I guess you could say that ultimately nature (or God acting through nature, whichever you prefer) will have the last laugh.

Unless of course man succeeds in interplanetary space travel, and intenionally destroys all life on Earth by bombing it into a nuclear winter. And even then, Earth has recovered from one of those before.

[Thanatos]

Quote by: Barnicals Maybe it is a simple pendulum effect. You start with a wild and untamed world, developing in the right conditions. Man, or a civilised species evolve and attempt to wrestle the natural world to the ground in an effort to sate their desire to succeed as a species. If they fail to find an equalibrium with the natural world, they start to die out as resources (air, food, water, or access to any of the above) run out. Due to this dieoff, nature re-establishes herself in areas where the species has ceased. Nature is damaged, but given time and genetic variation, she may rebuild. This pendulum effect may continue indefinately, until the species find balance with nature. So yes, I guess you could say that ultimately nature (or God acting through nature, whichever you prefer) will have the last laugh. Unless of course man succeeds in interplanetary space travel, and intenionally destroys all life on Earth by bombing it into a nuclear winter. And even then, Earth has recovered from one of those before.

Have you ever studied the history of Easter Island? Its one of the remotest inhabited islands in the world and illustrated your point. From archeology we know they had a fairly advanced civilization but eventually overpopulated and completely died out, leaving no surface traces of the culture that built those stone heads.

[Barnicals]

Quote by: Thanatos Have you ever studied the history of Easter Island? Its one of the remotest inhabited islands in the world and illustrated your point. From archeology we know they had a fairly advanced civilization but eventually overpopulated and completely died out, leaving no surface traces of the culture that built those stone heads.

I haven't studied it properly, but yeah, I understand the basics of it, up to about the level of depth that you just talked about. I'm sure easter island will happen again, in another place. Maybe in the same. O.o

[Athena]

Quote by: Laststandb Global Warming = Earthquakes? What are we going to blame global warming on next? Global Warming= One of the coldest winters? This is great math, testiment to the UN. If global warming is the sole cause for casulties, then the number should be the same. But nooo, the cause is from the infrastructure, not global warming. Global warming doesn't cause just poor people to die, it dosn't really actually kill anyone. So wait, they give a statistic that has nothing to do with global warming and make a statement about global warming. Laststandb shakes his head in shame

Yes, extreme cold goes with the global warming. Nova just did a shoew on sun dimming that explains this. We have different polutants in the air and they have different effects. Small particles attract water molecules and form tiny rain drops which reflect the sun's rays. This causes cooling, and without it, we would feel the effect of the green house gases more intensely. If we clean this pulotant from our air without cleaning the green house gases from the air, the extreme heat. would be more noticable.

I am dressed for fall weather today, August 8 2008. I live in Oregon and it should be a very hot day, but we have cloud cover and a cold breeze. We had so much cold weather this year, the bees didn't come out until late, and that harmed the peach crop for lack of pollination.

It would be nice to believe the excessive heat and excessive cooling will balance out and we will be safe, but this is not the prediction. The prediction is if we do not get things under control in a few years, things will be so out of whack, we will not be able to get them under control, until life as we know it comes to an end. Life on this planet will be lucky to survive what is to come, if we don't immediately turn things around.

Excesses cause natural disasters, and damages food crops. The hardest hit areas, are the ones were the polution is not created, but the least developed, and where the most vulnerable people in the world live, with draughts causing massive starvation

I think we need to adjust our understanding of God, to understanding God as, the Laws of Nature and Nature's God. Our religions separated us from nature and I think this is a great misfortune. Mythology was a better blend of science and godly thoughts, as it tried to explain nature, and the stories are about nature more than about supernatural beings. The supernatural beings are only a way of explaining nature, to humans who are more interested in stories than science, and whose reference point is the human one. Today's science is seriously lacking that human (moral) reference point, and when lacking religion too, is the evil Zeus feared, or man knowing all the technologies and revivaling the gods.

God doesn't do it to us, but if nature is God, we are doing it to nature, and what happens is the result of our own doing. This the natural law of cause and effect, and if we are to make moral choices, we need to understand the Laws of Nature, and govern ourselves by those laws.

Reminds of an old margerine commercial, where Mother Nature creates a terrible storm with strong winds and lightening, and says, "It isn't nice to fool Mother Nature".

[thebuescherman]

2.5 million people may sound like a lot, but its a drop in the barrel.

[Zeebadee]

It's the gays. My barber recently told me that all the fires in California this year started right after their state supreme court overturned the ban on gay marriage.