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D Sretenovic · May 23, 2008, 02:58 pm

Are you watching this year`s Eurovision song contest? Who are you cheering for? Who do you think will win?

**Matt W** · May 24, 2008, 10:10 am

Yes, but not by choice - the girlfriend wants to watch it. So I may escape elsewhere & watch a DVD. And I really couldn't care less....

Nono · May 24, 2008, 04:56 pm

My wife is watching it, so I can hear the dismal drone in the background.
What crap.

Walrus · May 24, 2008, 05:33 pm

I don’t know if the rest of the world takes it seriously, but we have a commentator named Terry Wogan who treats the whole thing with mockery and disdain, we achieve a certain amount of cruel amusement from this.

D Sretenovic · May 24, 2008, 09:33 pm

Don`t know... I don`t really like most of the songs I hear but my opinion is that the whole thing has a good vibe. Like all the other events which involve music, fun, young and feel-like-young people from all over Europe... It finished today as you probably know, and it has been kind a cool. It was fun to see all those people backing up their country representatives, so many different flags, and neither one ``political`` thought. A good example of how you can be patriotic and still don`t make other people feel bad about it...

**Matt W** · May 28, 2008, 04:38 am

You genuinely don't think the voting was political?! With Russia winning?

D Sretenovic · May 28, 2008, 02:17 pm

My mistake, there were ``politics`` involved if you like to see voting for neighbors as a political thing. I wanted to say that there was no negative politics background. For example, the guy from Slovenia telling us how they voted there, addressed people here with ``Hello, Serbian brothers``. We split about 15 years ago, almost in bloody conflict, there`s a lot of tensions still present today, but again, that sentence was a reminder how our two people are bonded and could have normally co-existed if only politicians didn`t have involved and made problems for their own benefit.

**Matt W** · May 28, 2008, 02:42 pm

Sad, really. It's supposed to be a talent show, not a political love-fest.

D Sretenovic · May 28, 2008, 03:10 pm

So you say talent didn`t win? You also said you didn`t watch the show, so how do you know? Guy from Russia has a great voice, and on the scene with him there were also a World ice skating champion and a guy playing a Stradivarius violin. If that`s not expressing talent, I don`t know what is. Plus, if Russia won because of it ``political`` (I have to put marks again) support, then why didn`t it win all these years? Because, beyond support from neighbor countries, you need other countries to give you points as well. And you can only succeed that with a quality song. Serbia was a winner last year, because we got points from Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina... but also Finland, Sweden... This year, we finished 6th, or 7th, not sure, obviously because our candidate wasn`t as good as the previous one. UK doesn`t win because of the politics? No, it doesn`t win because it candidates crappy songs.

**Matt W** · May 28, 2008, 06:42 pm

No, I did watch it. Re-read my post. I said I may escape. I didn't. I'll admit, the Russian song was nowhere near the worst of the songs on show - Germany springs to mind, or, however amusing, the Spanish entry - but by no means was it the best.

**Chris the Chees** · May 29, 2008, 12:33 pm

The Russian song was dire, there were at least half a dozen songs on that show which were much better.

Political voting, as always.

May 23, 2008, 02:58 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
D Sretenovic Freedom Fighter Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 47	Euroviosion 2008 Belgrade Are you watching this year`s Eurovision song contest? Who are you cheering for? Who do you think will win? ``History will remember two types of heroes: ones ready to sacrifice own life for their ideal, and the others ready to sacrifice other people`s life for their ideal.`` - Nikolaj Velimirovic

May 24, 2008, 10:10 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,787	Yes, but not by choice - the girlfriend wants to watch it. So I may escape elsewhere & watch a DVD. And I really couldn't care less.... I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes. Last edited by Matt W; May 24, 2008 at 10:10 am. Reason: typo

May 24, 2008, 04:56 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Nono Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 7,161	My wife is watching it, so I can hear the dismal drone in the background. What crap. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne

May 24, 2008, 05:33 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Walrus Cabbages and Kings Location: England Posts: 261	I don’t know if the rest of the world takes it seriously, but we have a commentator named Terry Wogan who treats the whole thing with mockery and disdain, we achieve a certain amount of cruel amusement from this. If there were in the world today any large number of people who desired their own happiness more than they desired the unhappiness of others, we could have paradise in a few years. Bertrand Russell

May 24, 2008, 09:33 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
D Sretenovic Freedom Fighter Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 47	Don`t know... I don`t really like most of the songs I hear but my opinion is that the whole thing has a good vibe. Like all the other events which involve music, fun, young and feel-like-young people from all over Europe... It finished today as you probably know, and it has been kind a cool. It was fun to see all those people backing up their country representatives, so many different flags, and neither one ``political`` thought. A good example of how you can be patriotic and still don`t make other people feel bad about it... ``History will remember two types of heroes: ones ready to sacrifice own life for their ideal, and the others ready to sacrifice other people`s life for their ideal.`` - Nikolaj Velimirovic

May 28, 2008, 04:38 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,787	You genuinely don't think the voting was political?! With Russia winning? I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

May 28, 2008, 02:17 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
D Sretenovic Freedom Fighter Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 47	My mistake, there were ``politics`` involved if you like to see voting for neighbors as a political thing. I wanted to say that there was no negative politics background. For example, the guy from Slovenia telling us how they voted there, addressed people here with ``Hello, Serbian brothers``. We split about 15 years ago, almost in bloody conflict, there`s a lot of tensions still present today, but again, that sentence was a reminder how our two people are bonded and could have normally co-existed if only politicians didn`t have involved and made problems for their own benefit. ``History will remember two types of heroes: ones ready to sacrifice own life for their ideal, and the others ready to sacrifice other people`s life for their ideal.`` - Nikolaj Velimirovic

May 28, 2008, 02:42 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,787	Sad, really. It's supposed to be a talent show, not a political love-fest. I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

May 28, 2008, 03:10 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
D Sretenovic Freedom Fighter Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 47	So you say talent didn`t win? You also said you didn`t watch the show, so how do you know? Guy from Russia has a great voice, and on the scene with him there were also a World ice skating champion and a guy playing a Stradivarius violin. If that`s not expressing talent, I don`t know what is. Plus, if Russia won because of it ``political`` (I have to put marks again) support, then why didn`t it win all these years? Because, beyond support from neighbor countries, you need other countries to give you points as well. And you can only succeed that with a quality song. Serbia was a winner last year, because we got points from Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina... but also Finland, Sweden... This year, we finished 6th, or 7th, not sure, obviously because our candidate wasn`t as good as the previous one. UK doesn`t win because of the politics? No, it doesn`t win because it candidates crappy songs. ``History will remember two types of heroes: ones ready to sacrifice own life for their ideal, and the others ready to sacrifice other people`s life for their ideal.`` - Nikolaj Velimirovic

May 28, 2008, 06:42 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,787	No, I did watch it. Re-read my post. I said I may escape. I didn't. I'll admit, the Russian song was nowhere near the worst of the songs on show - Germany springs to mind, or, however amusing, the Spanish entry - but by no means was it the best. I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

May 29, 2008, 12:33 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Chris the Chees Moderator Location: Wales Posts: 2,272	The Russian song was dire, there were at least half a dozen songs on that show which were much better. Political voting, as always. Society may be formed so as to exist without crime, without poverty, […] no obstacle whatsoever intervenes at this moment except ignorance to prevent such a state of society. Robert Owen