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Young · Jul 22, 2004, 12:39 am

Ready to Fight Prepared to Die.

The Dunedan · Jul 22, 2004, 01:08 am

Ditto. If needs be, I'll fight to the death ( mine or theirs ) against anyone who infringes against me.

Young · Jul 22, 2004, 01:20 am

#4 has one Vote = Dieval has Voted!

bishop · Jul 22, 2004, 01:23 am

ha... what a bunch of hot air. if you were going to fight to the death, then you'd be going after bush and/or anyone who voted for the patriot act. don't flatter yourselves, you aren't going to do anything of the sort.

The Dunedan · Jul 22, 2004, 01:25 am

Bishop:
People like me don't believe in shooting first. Trust me, that's the only reason things aren't a LOT worse. Until we're physically aggressed against, we'll stick to voting, marching, and bitching in general. Hopefully that's all that will ever be needed. However, he who is not willing to physically fight for his rights -has no- rights, because he can always be bought, intimidated, or browbeaten out of them.

Young · Jul 22, 2004, 01:31 am

Bishop - Are You with us? When the Time comes...You'll be with us or you'll be Praying you had been. If they force Us to remove them in order to Protect Our Rights...We'll meet You in the Streets...Hope You'll be Marching in the same direction.

Comrade · Jul 22, 2004, 01:35 am

Give me a break, conservatives are the ones with all the guns.

The Dunedan · Jul 22, 2004, 01:38 am

Comerade:
These are Libertarians talking. While not "Conservative" in the traditional sense, trust me, we're plenty well-armed.

Young · Jul 22, 2004, 01:49 am

I'm Conservative & republican & Christian & a Proud Southerner, Not only are We well armed....We Know how to hit the targets, we've been drug around hunting in the Mountains since we were kids and I suspect that there are many more out there who if they can't aim can load the Guns and pass them up and the Military may get more than a questionaire...they may be forced to shoot civilians...If enough of Us show Up I see it happening differently though.....I see Our Military backing the People and I swear all we're waiting on Is a Leader.

Comrade · Jul 22, 2004, 01:50 am

Quote:

Originally posted by The Dunedan,
Comerade:
These are Libertarians talking. While not "Conservative" in the traditional sense, trust me, we're plenty well-armed.

I'm sure you are. There are a lot more conservatives than there are libertarians. Many, many more.

Young, what is with the capitalization?

Young · Jul 22, 2004, 01:59 am

I Use caps to Highlight a word that I want You to Think about. I Cap the whole word when I'm YELLING

PatrickHenry · Jul 22, 2004, 02:03 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Comrade,
Young, what is with the capitalization?

LOL, don't you know yet? How long you been here? That's the Young Style.

As for guns, everybody has some. They can be handy.

Comrade · Jul 22, 2004, 02:06 am

The young style is irritating and inhibits reading, then.

My post was indicative that in an armed conflict with the rest of America, libertarians would lose. So maybe I AM in favor of this revolution of yours.

PatrickHenry · Jul 22, 2004, 02:10 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Comrade,
in an armed conflict with the rest of America, libertarians would lose. So maybe I AM in favor of this revolution of yours.

Because libertarians would lose and you hate libs? Is that an accurate interpretation of your statement?

What do you suppose would initiate such a violent conflict, Comrade?

bishop · Jul 22, 2004, 02:26 am

lots of hot air, that's all i see.

you will probably never be physically aggressed against (is that proper grammar?). i'd bet all my marbles on that. but, you certainly will have more rights taken away through passive and uncontrollable means.

as far as being with the crowd goes... i'm on one team - my team.

Young · Jul 22, 2004, 02:47 am

My Team - Wait till these cowards order Our Military to Fire on Us....You'll be trying to find Me when You run out of Ammo....and there I'll be moving fresh supplies through the Lines....Bishop - You Know Your Home Team...Go and Look at Our Flag....IT Resents Every Day We allow these Men to Harm Our Country.

Comrade · Jul 22, 2004, 03:06 am

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Originally posted by PatrickHenry,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PatrickHenry,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Comrade,
in an armed conflict with the rest of America, libertarians would lose. So maybe I AM in favor of this revolution of yours.

Because libertarians would lose and you hate libs? Is that an accurate interpretation of your statement?

What do you suppose would initiate such a violent conflict, Comrade?[/b][/quote]

When did I say there was ever going to be a violent conflict? I believe my comments were addressed to a hypothetical, "In the event of..."

My comments were lighthearted, but since you wish to pursue it, if libertarians ever decided they wanted to try their revolution, and got wiped out, I wouldn't cry one tear for them, after all their arrogance and elitism. I'm really tired of running up against the idea that people who come to different conclusions from conspiracy theorists are dumber than said theorists. If anything, I believe leftists (and libertarians are just as applicable to this as liberals) are more the gullible, seeing how easily they buy into each conspiracy theory as it comes along.

And I especially like on this forum, how whenever facts come up that don't vibe with your opinions, they are considered lies and propoganda, while Michael Moore is the paragon of truth.

PatrickHenry · Jul 22, 2004, 05:07 am

Well that's some "heated debate" allright, Comrade. And I thought I was bein' sorta civil...

I figure an armed conflict is a violent conflict, but what do I know?

And where did this come from: "And I especially like on this forum, how whenever facts come up that don't vibe with your opinions, they are considered lies and propoganda, while Michael Moore is the paragon of truth." Did I step on yer toe? What's with the red herring?

Anyhow, I think the trigger event for a showdown between the people and the gov might be mass disarmament/gun siezure, martial law after a "terror attack", or maybe mandatory vaccination/quarantine due to a release of an epidemic disease by "terrorists".

waterfalllife · Jul 22, 2004, 07:42 am

I would die for them. Its the least I can do for my fellow Americans to live in the freedoms they were originally granted.

Young · Jul 22, 2004, 01:30 pm

A lot of Men who were just as important as you or I, did die for Our Rights. Think of it like pushing a rock up a hill. Now we got some people pushing against Us & some of Our own pulling on Us....in order to prove to them that losing Our Rights isn't a good idea, we may have to just let the rock go and get out of the way.....letit run the idiots over.

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I'd Protest for My Rights	2	8.70%
I'd Vote to keep My Rights	2	8.70%
I'd not be too worried I'm pacified	2	8.70%
I'd Give up some of My Rights	1	4.35%
I'd give up all of My Rights for Safety	1	4.35%
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Jul 22, 2004, 12:39 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	Ready to Fight Prepared to Die. Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Jul 22, 2004, 01:20 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	#4 has one Vote = Dieval has Voted! Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Jul 22, 2004, 01:23 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	ha... what a bunch of hot air. if you were going to fight to the death, then you'd be going after bush and/or anyone who voted for the patriot act. don't flatter yourselves, you aren't going to do anything of the sort. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Jul 22, 2004, 01:31 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	Bishop - Are You with us? When the Time comes...You'll be with us or you'll be Praying you had been. If they force Us to remove them in order to Protect Our Rights...We'll meet You in the Streets...Hope You'll be Marching in the same direction. Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Jul 22, 2004, 01:08 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
The Dunedan Hot Lava Posts: 925	Ditto. If needs be, I'll fight to the death ( mine or theirs ) against anyone who infringes against me.

Jul 22, 2004, 01:25 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
The Dunedan Hot Lava Posts: 925	Bishop: People like me don't believe in shooting first. Trust me, that's the only reason things aren't a LOT worse. Until we're physically aggressed against, we'll stick to voting, marching, and bitching in general. Hopefully that's all that will ever be needed. However, he who is not willing to physically fight for his rights -has no- rights, because he can always be bought, intimidated, or browbeaten out of them.

Jul 22, 2004, 01:35 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	Give me a break, conservatives are the ones with all the guns. Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Jul 22, 2004, 01:38 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
The Dunedan Hot Lava Posts: 925	Comerade: These are Libertarians talking. While not "Conservative" in the traditional sense, trust me, we're plenty well-armed.

Jul 22, 2004, 01:49 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	I'm Conservative & republican & Christian & a Proud Southerner, Not only are We well armed....We Know how to hit the targets, we've been drug around hunting in the Mountains since we were kids and I suspect that there are many more out there who if they can't aim can load the Guns and pass them up and the Military may get more than a questionaire...they may be forced to shoot civilians...If enough of Us show Up I see it happening differently though.....I see Our Military backing the People and I swear all we're waiting on Is a Leader. Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Jul 22, 2004, 01:59 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	I Use caps to Highlight a word that I want You to Think about. I Cap the whole word when I'm YELLING Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Jul 22, 2004, 02:06 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	The young style is irritating and inhibits reading, then. My post was indicative that in an armed conflict with the rest of America, libertarians would lose. So maybe I AM in favor of this revolution of yours. Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Jul 22, 2004, 02:26 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	lots of hot air, that's all i see. you will probably never be physically aggressed against (is that proper grammar?). i'd bet all my marbles on that. but, you certainly will have more rights taken away through passive and uncontrollable means. as far as being with the crowd goes... i'm on one team - my team. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Jul 22, 2004, 02:47 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	My Team - Wait till these cowards order Our Military to Fire on Us....You'll be trying to find Me when You run out of Ammo....and there I'll be moving fresh supplies through the Lines....Bishop - You Know Your Home Team...Go and Look at Our Flag....IT Resents Every Day We allow these Men to Harm Our Country. Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Jul 22, 2004, 05:07 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,453	Well that's some "heated debate" allright, Comrade. And I thought I was bein' sorta civil... I figure an armed conflict is a violent conflict, but what do I know? And where did this come from: "And I especially like on this forum, how whenever facts come up that don't vibe with your opinions, they are considered lies and propoganda, while Michael Moore is the paragon of truth." Did I step on yer toe? What's with the red herring? Anyhow, I think the trigger event for a showdown between the people and the gov might be mass disarmament/gun siezure, martial law after a "terror attack", or maybe mandatory vaccination/quarantine due to a release of an epidemic disease by "terrorists". "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Jul 22, 2004, 07:42 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
waterfalllife Molten Ash Posts: 143	I would die for them. Its the least I can do for my fellow Americans to live in the freedoms they were originally granted. "The reason we can't find a relationship between the Constitution and the government is that there is none." -Michael Badnarik

Jul 22, 2004, 01:30 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	A lot of Men who were just as important as you or I, did die for Our Rights. Think of it like pushing a rock up a hill. Now we got some people pushing against Us & some of Our own pulling on Us....in order to prove to them that losing Our Rights isn't a good idea, we may have to just let the rock go and get out of the way.....letit run the idiots over. Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"