Contact with Spirits, Deamons, Ghosts, Etc.

[Piscean]

I'd like to hear from those who have had experiences with anything labeled "supernatural" Spirits, demons, ghosts, or even aliens, or maybe just an encounter with anything else outside the realm of normal or scientifically accepted. I'm talking to those who have had an experience which they can't shake off as imagination or hallucination etc. Something so real that you are forced to believe in what most don't. Please be brave and share your experience here even though there will be naysayers and possibly immature insults. I for one will take your experiences seriously and I would appreciate you sharing.

[gela]

Once I had a dream of a conversation.. One I directly remembered in the morning.. and it happened that day.

Thats the only thing I have personally experienced..

I've had several other instances of De ja vu where I swear that I have dreamed a situation.. but I hadn't remembered the dream itself before the situation arose and reminded me of it.

[grandpa]

Quote by: gela Once I had a dream of a conversation.. One I directly remembered in the morning..

Hmm..what was the conversation about?

I once was talking with someone in a car and we ended up saying the exact same thing, and it seemed like there was no way we would have ended up saying it.

Grandpa h.

[Anmon]

I've had plenty, as has one of my sisters.
Shes seen them clearer than me.
I usually get just glimpses of them out of the corners of my eyes, cold chills when they come near me, all my hair rises even on my head a bit, and there is just an overwhelming feeling that there is something else in the room with you.
Also I used to get a lot of feelings of paralysis, this usually happened straight after an incredibly bad dream, and I would wake up but not be able to open my eyes, my whole body was frozen with a great feeling of pressure on it, I could not even breath.
It would usually take at most about 20 seconds to shake it off, then I could open my eyes and get up.

This has died down now to only once every few months at most.
Now even when I'm awake I get the feelings of something moving on me, its hard to explain, you can feel your clothes being pulled very slowly and softly, and with blankets too, or pressure suddenly falling on a place of your body somewhere, like something has rested its hand there.
Also strange flashed of lights briefly in the corner of my eyesight as well, and sudden shadowy movements.

I have been living with this for over twenty years, and I guess I've gotten used to it now.
Other weird things, are doors slamming with no reason to slam, no wind, lights suddenly coming on or going off (that gets me the most) Once just after finishing a shower, I was coming out of the bathroom to turn into my bedroom, when the door just slammed hard in my face, missing my nose by a few cms.
I opened the door a bit cautiously, and although the window was slightly open, it had been a clear morning with no wind.

Lately the door to my room has been getting pushed at times, and sometimes will open slightly, although when it opens the door handle does not move, despite knowing it had been firmly shut, so I can only gather that it presses in the tumbler in the barrel mechanism inside the door to allow the door to swing open without using the handle.

The biggest scare I had lately, was waking up to briefly see a man near the door with a moustache and big frowning eyes staring at me for a split second, that really made me yell, I jumped straight out of bed at him but he vanished as soon as I moved.
Years ago I would be harassed by this thing or things daily for ages in little ways, like the weird dreams that felt as if they were coming from somewhere else not me, the following bouts of paralysis, the strange feelings of being watched, of something being near you.

I would also oddly enough hear faint music during my dreams just before the paralysis, after a while I was also able to distinguish between these bad dreams and other bad dreams I would usually have. There was some strange feeling about them, especially how evil they were, that would send warnings to me to try and wake up before the paralysis hit, which at times was just downright terrifying as I could feel my neck being gripped hard on occasions as I awoke, or the strange feeling of falling out of bed or spinning in a circle slowly but twisting as well, while paralysed.

Every muscle in you is frozen and it takes a great struggle to find the connections to even move your eyelids so you can see, you feel like you are in a tractor beam, just an over whelming feeling of complete powerlessness.

You are briefly awake and conscious but you cant move breathe or open your eyes.
But if I moved away, especially far away, it wouldn't bother me for months, then suddenly it would arrive, like aha here you are, like it had lost me and had been trying to track me down for ages.
I have discussed these experiences with a doctor once, he told me this was a common occurrence named 'sleep paralysis' that its a mental condition, not supernatural.
I mentioned all the other stuff as well, but he no answer.

This thing as soon as it enters the room I'm in, I know its there, my body freaks out with all the warning tingles cold chills etc and as soon as its gone I know instantly it has as well.
I get the chills etc when I am at the computer sometimes day or night, but the worst one was a few months ago when I could definitely feel a presence very close, at my right shoulder.
It stayed for about ten fifteen seconds and then moved away somewhere.

[gela]

Hmm..what was the conversation about? I once was talking with someone in a car and we ended up saying the exact same thing, and it seemed like there was no way we would have ended up saying it. Grandpa h.

It happened a while ago, so I don't actualy remember.
It wasn't anything important.. just general chit chat..
But I had dreamed the person I was having it with, and exactly what we both said..

[Nono]

Let's discuss death. Post 51.

[Halofan48]

Deja Vu experiences. I get them as well. Perhaps they are events that you think will likely take place.

[Nono]

I think déjà vu has been shown to be within the realm of rationally explicable neurological phenomena.

[Piscean]

Hey Anmon I've had alot of those type of expiriences too so you arent alone. I've had the thing in the room paralyzing me and crushing me. The absolute pressance of evil etc. I know lots of others have these expiriences too so that's psrtly y I started this thread. Thankd for sharing.

[raindancer]

i strongly believe. my ansestors where native american so iv been brought up to believe that there is more to life than what we see

[Technosoul]

As far as ghosts, and demons are concerned it is impossible to tell the difference between a ghost and an illusion, so it is pointless debate this.

To debate that reality and non-reality are the same thing is a big contradiction in logical expectations.

[raindancer]

no i disagree, there are very other real reality's here in our own reality, it's just people are to closed to see them

[Piscean]

If you choose not to believe in what science hasn't so far proven, you are conceously deciding to not believe in an unknown amount of what's real.

[Zhavric]

Quote by: Piscean I'd like to hear from those who have had experiences with anything labeled "supernatural" Spirits, demons, ghosts, or even aliens, or maybe just an encounter with anything else outside the realm of normal or scientifically accepted. I'm talking to those who have had an experience which they can't shake off as imagination or hallucination etc. Something so real that you are forced to believe in what most don't. Please be brave and share your experience here even though there will be naysayers and possibly immature insults. I for one will take your experiences seriously and I would appreciate you sharing.

I like ghosts and unicorns and hippogriffs and wizards and pegusus and giants and unicorns and bug-eyed aliens from venus and pink cows and fairies and witches and eat them every morning in my big bowl of crazy.

-Ed

Seriously, what's the point of this thread? Entertainment value? Do you really believe in any of this? Why bother with all this stuff that's so obviously false?

[Technosoul]

Quote by: raindancer no i disagree, there are very other real reality's here in our own reality, it's just people are to closed to see them

This is true in my opinon also, but my point is that it is pointless to proove it to someone who is not a Seer.

Once I had a extra reality experience where I met my animal spirit, it was a Amazon Frog. The frog told me in that vision quest that it lived on land and also in the water, and had to breathe air. So among all animals it was the most sensitive to changes in the environment. He told me that humans must do something to stop the man made polution and the distruction of his rainforest because we are distroying the air, water, and the soil with our polution. I was not sure what to do and so he suggested a global rain dance, so that the Thunder Beings could baptise the earth in water like a washing machince to dilute the polution and I listen to his instructions.

Then I went on two internet forums and used the nickname "Raindance" and asked people all around the globe to join me in a global rain dance to clean the planet. As well as messinging some Native American sites.

This was back when we were having a long dry spell. One night as the moon was moving towards becoming full I conducted my raindance moving around and around to draw froth the energies of the unseen powers that be. At that time the mountains around Caifornia were on fire (I recall, due to the long dry summer). I could hear the distant drums and chants of the Elders through the near by trees that magnified their ghostly presense in the present.

I checked the weather report and more dry weather was predicted, but then the next day dark clouds moved in from down south, and it rained here for about two weeks steady, It rained so hard that the roof in my den fell in and I had to move my computer to another room as the water gushed in and distroyed the carpet on the floor. Night and day I had to set up buckets and empty them in my house.

Suddenly the weather changed and the USA and other parts of the world were getting flooded with rain, record breaking rain falls, hurricanes, tornados, and snow storms were happening. And then scientists said it was all caused by the warming of the waters in the oceans near the topical zones of the ocean. And a report came out about global warming and greenhouse gasses, etc. I was given no authority to stop the rain and the climate changes as the rain continued to fall, I moved out of my house. I was given one message. If the government wanted to stop all this they must go to the Native Amreicans for advice, and that the secret message of the pipe must be opened and shared with the rest of the world. I do not know what that message is.

Man started this war on nature and now Mother Nature has spoken and the wrath of the Thunder Beings is upon us. The spirit of the frog has been delivered, the oldest of all animals in evolution has had it's say.

But can I prove any of this? No.

[Piscean]

I like ghosts and unicorns and hippogriffs and wizards and pegusus and giants and unicorns and bug-eyed aliens from venus and pink cows and fairies and witches and eat them every morning in my big bowl of crazy.

I'm not trying to make you believe in anything so calm down. This thread is for people who DO HAVE EXPIRIENCE with these kind of things, obviously you aren't in that category so take your frustrated insults to a thread where they may actually apply in some relevant way.

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: Technosoul This is true in my opinon also, but my point is that it is pointless to proove it to someone who is not a Seer.

Let me also join you as having similar opinion !

Once I had a extra reality experience where I met my animal spirit, it was a Amazon Frog. The frog told me in that vision quest that it lived on land and also in the water, and had to breathe air. So among all animals it was the most sensitive to changes in the environment. He told me that humans must do something to stop the man made polution and the distruction of his rainforest because we are distroying the air, water, and the soil with our polution. I was not sure what to do and so he suggested a global rain dance, so that the Thunder Beings could baptise the earth in water like a washing machince to dilute the polution and I listen to his instructions.

Hmm, How are you confident that you met spirit of a Amazon Frog.??
I am sure it (Frog's Spirit) was talking in your language and NOT in forg's language (quaks). Mostly all times, it is your own conscience which brings you face to face with the realities which have faith in.

Then I went on two internet forums and used the nickname "Raindance" and asked people all around the globe to join me in a global rain dance to clean the planet. As well as messinging some Native American sites. This was back when we were having a long dry spell. One night as the moon was moving towards becoming full I conducted my raindance moving around and around to draw froth the energies of the unseen powers that be. At that time the mountains around Caifornia were on fire (I recall, due to the long dry summer). I could hear the distant drums and chants of the Elders through the near by trees that magnified their ghostly presense in the present.

It is revealation of nature through a pure mind, like the one Technosoul have, which Techno mistakingly has felt as Frog's Spirit.

Man started this war on nature and now Mother Nature has spoken and the wrath of the Thunder Beings is upon us. The spirit of the frog has been delivered, the oldest of all animals in evolution has had it's say.

, I beg to differ here. It is your own conscience, which has made a revealation to you about rain dancing before hand under the conditions when weather predictions were contarary.

But can I prove any of this? No.

Definitely, you can never prove that it was forg's spirit but it is automatically proved which you felt due to your pure mind as revealation of future happening that Rain would dance against the weather prediction.

I myself too saw in dream about six/seven men in army uniform landing in a helicopter in a garden of locality in Srinagar (Kaashmir) and the turned their guns to Hindu Houses about six months before the actual exodus of full Hindu community from Srinagar in 1990. Who narrated me the facts that were going to happen after six months????...Nobody from outside, but my own self consciousness. Further, six months before my dream there happened something (heated discussion on our small family issue), which made me tell God I believe in (inherntly) to do something such that I may never be needed to return back to Home in Srinagar (Kashmir). It provenly happened that till today for next 20 years, I did not go to Srinagar. This does not mean that God is somewhere sitting up or down, who has listened to my appeal and created problem for whole community. No, destiny was to take place the way it took place. The only thing is my pure conscience played the scene in advance by way of my thought and later after six months in a dream, which become a reality after next 6 months.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Kuldeep Let me also join you as having similar opinion ! Hmm, How are you confident that you met spirit of a Amazon Frog.?? I am sure it (Frog's Spirit) was talking in your language and NOT in forg's language (quaks). Mostly all times, it is your own conscience which brings you face to face with the realities which have faith in. It is revealation of nature through a pure mind, like the one Technosoul have, which Techno mistakingly has felt as Frog's Spirit. , I beg to differ here. It is your own conscience, which has made a revealation to you about rain dancing before hand under the conditions when weather predictions were contarary. Definitely, you can never prove that it was forg's spirit but it is automatically proved which you felt due to your pure mind as revealation of future happening that Rain would dance against the weather prediction. I myself too saw in dream about six/seven men in army uniform landing in a helicopter in a garden of locality in Srinagar (Kaashmir) and the turned their guns to Hindu Houses about six months before the actual exodus of full Hindu community from Srinagar in 1990. Who narrated me the facts that were going to happen after six months????...Nobody from outside, but my own self consciousness. Further, six months before my dream there happened something (heated discussion on our small family issue), which made me tell God I believe in (inherntly) to do something such that I may never be needed to return back to Home in Srinagar (Kashmir). It provenly happened that till today for next 20 years, I did not go to Srinagar. This does not mean that God is somewhere sitting up or down, who has listened to my appeal and created problem for whole community. No, destiny was to take place the way it took place. The only thing is my pure conscience played the scene in advance by way of my thought and later after six months in a dream, which become a reality after next 6 months.

I hardly think my conscience is pure but it might be muddy and that is how that bullfrog got in there ... Joke.

In the vision it was clearly a bull frog sitting near the bank of a stream in the jungle. No audio voices or frog noises were present, an animal spirit is part of us as a guide that is symoblic of our purpose and nature, and the transmisson of ideas is only as thoughts not as words like you get in a book.

A hoppy ghost instead of a holy ghost. Most people have animal gudes that are like wolves, deer, eagles, and such.

The journey however did start off in yet another vision. I had a two dreams that someone was after me but I was lost in a maze, in the 2nd dream this girl showed me a way out and I was on this dock, across the railroad track was a forest where I could hide, she jumped off the dock and started across the track when a fast train came by and consumed her, it was a black train with no windows, which seemed to be like something that is not of this dimesion. Like a fast moving black hole. She just vanished right into the deception like into a matrix.

The 3rd dream I was thinking "this time I will get out of the maze" and I found this opening to a wilderness which was like paradise, I walked into the place and saw a blue lagoon surrounded by ferns and flowers, colorful birds, and deer were watching from the wooded areas.

Then this Indian came out of the woods and said "welcome to my land" and I said this is a really nice place. He motioned for me to follow him and we reached this cliff and he pointed down at a vast valley covered in tall grasses, he said "all of that land I will give you if you want to stay here for eternity" But I said "where are the animals, the trees, the steams and lagoons, it is nothing but rolling hills and grass"?

The Indian said "I have better land because in my life I did much to save the forest and to protect the wilderness. You have done nothing yet, and so you get grass, but if you stay here then you can plant trees and in time make it a paradise like mine".

I then said I would pass on the offer and come back later after my life has better prepared me.

Just then I switched from that dream into another dream, I was at this swapmeet and the Indian Chief became this mexican guy who was trying to sell me this beat up toaster. "I works really good he said".

Then I woke up for real.

That dream, which I remember perfectly in every detail, was a vision with a message. I had gone to the end of life and came back and I know how it ends for me, depending on which karma I now walk towards as a purpose.

Assuming I do not get run over by the train of dark deception.

The pathway to truth is through the forest of illusion. A riddle which is as a signpost.

Today I had a real time experience. My cat was across the street under a tree, when a black crow on the low branch started to ca at my cat. The cat started to meow real loud back at the crow. A big debate.
The cat climbed up the tree and out on the limb where the crow was, the crow moved up to a higher branch. The debate continued.

I went over and called my cat back into the house. The crow is very intelligent and was trying to get the cat out on a limb so that the branch would break and the cat would fall to the earth below. Kurploop.

In that little incident I learned not to get too far out on the limb when debating these metephysical topics. Like Shirley McLaine "out on a limb" book.

How am I doing ? I don't think my twig broke yet.

Those are all real life experiences and not fantasy storytelling, word for word reporting and any interpertation suggesting I made a misstake is a downright violation of a unspoken yet sacred code.

Also today was taking some pants into the tayor and saw a small sign on his door, "crafts for sale". When I went in he had a tommahawk made by real Indians out of dogwood wrapped in deer skin, with feathers and hair hanging from it, and a stone ax at the end. It was long and the kind used when riding on a horse. For sale at a very reasonable price. Also a tommahawk made out of a jawbone of a real horse that is decorated with indian designs. And a Native doll hand carved out of wood and red clay. A "raindance" doll. I quickly snapped up the relics and view this lucky find as evidence of a "thank you" for posting my raindance message here.

This is such a wonderful journey.

[Voluntary]

I like jumping jacks.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Voluntary I like jumping jacks.

Trying to compare jumping jacks to my frog spirit is not a joke in good taste.

Unless you eat Jack (in the box) burgers also.

To embody an animal spirit is one of the oldest religious concepts in our known history of religions. They used to embody a lion to gain it's courage during a war, or the spirit of an eagle so they can become eagle-eyed hunters. The animal spirit was used to give people names, plant spirits were also used as a pretty girl might be named after the spirit of a flower. Jesus named someone after the spirit of a rock.

Finding you spirit name or being appointed one by a shaman elder has been an important part of finding our brotherhood with nature.

You should try it sometime.

Jesus told them about his spirit name at the last supper. He had a plant spirit instead of an animal spirit. The blood of the grape and the flesh of the wheat (out of which bread is made).

All of this is basic shamanism stuff and not just a joke as you intended to make it out to be with your Jumping Jacks anology.

A spirit name is the handed down DNA of our Mother Nature.

For the human being is partly a ghost and partly physical. A complexity of the seen and the unseen. We are partly the mystery of a miricle and partly biological fact. A mixture of creativity and evolution. A mixture of imagination and logical deductions. We are the strange brew.

The self and the Seer of selfhood.

We know this, any kid can relate to Kermit Frog on TV and the idea it can talk. Because kids have not yet been poluted by stupid ideas pawned off as "the facts". Become as a small child and be reborn - as a frog or something that fits your new personality.

If you allow yourself to be distracted by being an adult you will stop growing and begin to decay away into the pits of death. So get scared and "believe". Ha!

How about that?