Contact with Spirits, Deamons, Ghosts, Etc.

[lindsay7]

I also used to get sleep paralysis often. It is very terrifying when it occurs, but I don't think there is anything supernatural about it. I think it's just this thing that happens with our minds..... when it happened to me I was a lot more emotionally unbalanced than I am now so I think our mental state plays a part in it.

I've had deja-vu once.. or would this be called deja-vu? ...

I met this guy at my high school, and the first time I met him I wanted really badly to ask him if I had met him somewhere else before, because I couldnt shake the feeling that I knew him from somewhere. I didnt ask though, because i didnt want to sound stupid because there was no where i could have met him. Anyways, as it turned out he became a really good friend to me at a time when i really needed it.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: lindsay7 I also used to get sleep paralysis often. It is very terrifying when it occurs, but I don't think there is anything supernatural about it. I think it's just this thing that happens with our minds..... when it happened to me I was a lot more emotionally unbalanced than I am now so I think our mental state plays a part in it. I've had deja-vu once.. or would this be called deja-vu? ... I met this guy at my high school, and the first time I met him I wanted really badly to ask him if I had met him somewhere else before, because I couldnt shake the feeling that I knew him from somewhere. I didnt ask though, because i didnt want to sound stupid because there was no where i could have met him. Anyways, as it turned out he became a really good friend to me at a time when i really needed it.

The paralysis thing can be scary. Like you cannot move and you must because if you do not then something bad might happen. But it was a message dream about a part or stage of your life. Daytime experiences are often re-surfaced in a dream because a feeling was not expressed during the day time event (events). Perhaps a feeling of not getting anywhere or being frozen in a situation you should get out of.

I am not sure if your story fits my explaination of deja-vu. But the eye sometimes sees things faster then our attention does, so a moment reaches our memory faster then our consciousness can digest what we are looking at. Giving the impression of having seen it before.

In your case I do not think that took place, I think you saw someone you automatically felt comfortable being around, like as if it was someone you have always known and feel at ease with. That kind of experience is often thought of as finding a soul mate ( or more of a soul-friend), somehow your spirit can spot another spirit in someone else who it knows, even if you on a conscious level do not know the person, that can happen they say due to reincarnations form past lives. Which is a rather difficult theory to prove or to embrace with our logical way of thinking. None the less, might as well toss that in because this is a thread about paranormal happenings. (aka extra reality happenings).

They say, that as we move through dimensions of time via reincarnations of our spirit we sometimes cross paths with fomer friends or lovers.

[Maryjane]

Lindsay7:

I also used to get sleep paralysis often. It is very terrifying when it occurs, but I don't think there is anything supernatural about it. I think it's just this thing that happens with our minds..... when it happened to me I was a lot more emotionally unbalanced than I am now so I think our mental state plays a part in it.

[quote]Paralysis while asleep is the normal condition. The body secretes hormones which relax certain muscles and prevent you from acting out your dreams. If it didn’t you would be in quite some danger every time you went to sleep.
The process of waking up might seem quite simple to you. But it’s actually a complex process involving many physiological changes. One of these is the reversal of the paralysis. People experience sleep paralysis when the hormone doesn’t wear off fast enough as they wake up. They remain paralysed though conscious. Because they have little sensation from their body, if they are lying on their backs, it can feel like someone is sitting on their chest. Eventually the paralysis departs and normal functions can be resumed.

There is an opposite disorder where people don’t get paralysed enough as they go to sleep. In a minor case this results in twitching and kicking while dreaming, but in a major case they can get up and walk around.

A side effect of this paralysis is that your bed feels a lot more comfortable in the morning when you wake up than it did when you first got into it. It hasn’t changed, your body is just less sensitive.

None of this should be considered evidence of anything paranormal.[/QUOTE]

Sleep paralysis is normal

[Piscean]

Hey Shaman, you play World of Warcraft?

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Piscean Hey Shaman, you play World of Warcraft?

World of warcraft? Is that a video game?

[Halofan48]

ya, it's an MMORPG. Yet this is off topic, if you want to continue discussion, i think theres a thread on MMO's somewhere.

[Radarlove]

Piscean,

Thank you for sharing your NDE on the afterlife thread. I note the atheists jumped on you like a ton of bricks but that is only to be expected.

I have had varied paranormal experiences during my life. Some are deeply personal while others are too 'way out' to mention. But I will share one experience.

Around 20 years ago, I was having some hands on healing. It was extremely powerful as two people were involved and their joint energies had a dramatic effect on my psyche.

While lying down being healed, I was overwhelmed by a sudden visual experience - as if I were watching a film. This experience was so vivid that not only did I instantly know what was going to occur in this film but I had full emotional and sensory perception too.

It was 1944; I was a navigator in an English bomber plane - a Lancaster to be exact; we were flying back from a successful bombing raid over Germany; it was night-time; I felt pleased with myself; my navigation had been successful.

The information now flooded through.

I was in my early twenties; I had fair hair; I suffered from asthma; I wanted to be a fighter pilot but didn't pass the examination due to poor health; I lived with a dominating mother; my father was dead; I had no brothers or sisters; I had a pet dog - a black labrador. All this information occurred in an instant. I knew it to be true.

Suddenly, there was an almighty explosion in the plane. We had been attacked and hit by a German night fighter. Pandemonium, fear, terror, panic, a huge hole appeared in the floor next to where I sat; flames everywhere; the plane was disintegrating around me; I was sucked out and fell thousands of feet to my death. I found myself looking down at my badly burnt and crumpled body. It lay in a muddy field somewhere in Holland. I felt no remorse; no sadness; my physical life was over; time to move on.

Then the experience was over as quickly as it came. The whole sequence occurred in an instant as if time didn't exist.

Some would say this was a memory of a past life. Others might say it was my unconscious playing games. I really don't care. It was a paranormal experience in the true sense of the word. And it was very real for me. Just as your NDE was real to you.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Halofan48 ya, it's an MMORPG. Yet this is off topic, if you want to continue discussion, i think theres a thread on MMO's somewhere.

Nope, I am all thumbs when it comes to video games, I gave up when Pac-Man came out.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: Halofan48 Deja Vu experiences. I get them as well. Perhaps they are events that you think will likely take place.

I generally experience deja vue as simply me knowing I've experienced a situation that brought about a similar line of thought as my current one. It's definitely weird, but I think it tends to be "I've already thought this" rather than "this has already happened".

I think that any Supernatural events are generally explainable by human beings' unending ability to decieve themselves.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Radarlove Piscean, Thank you for sharing your NDE on the afterlife thread. I note the atheists jumped on you like a ton of bricks but that is only to be expected. I have had varied paranormal experiences during my life. Some are deeply personal while others are too 'way out' to mention. But I will share one experience. Around 20 years ago, I was having some hands on healing. It was extremely powerful as two people were involved and their joint energies had a dramatic effect on my psyche. While lying down being healed, I was overwhelmed by a sudden visual experience - as if I were watching a film. This experience was so vivid that not only did I instantly know what was going to occur in this film but I had full emotional and sensory perception too. It was 1944; I was a navigator in an English bomber plane - a Lancaster to be exact; we were flying back from a successful bombing raid over Germany; it was night-time; I felt pleased with myself; my navigation had been successful. The information now flooded through. I was in my early twenties; I had fair hair; I suffered from asthma; I wanted to be a fighter pilot but didn't pass the examination due to poor health; I lived with a dominating mother; my father was dead; I had no brothers or sisters; I had a pet dog - a black labrador. All this information occurred in an instant. I knew it to be true. Suddenly, there was an almighty explosion in the plane. We had been attacked and hit by a German night fighter. Pandemonium, fear, terror, panic, a huge hole appeared in the floor next to where I sat; flames everywhere; the plane was disintegrating around me; I was sucked out and fell thousands of feet to my death. I found myself looking down at my badly burnt and crumpled body. It lay in a muddy field somewhere in Holland. I felt no remorse; no sadness; my physical life was over; time to move on. Then the experience was over as quickly as it came. The whole sequence occurred in an instant as if time didn't exist. Some would say this was a memory of a past life. Others might say it was my unconscious playing games. I really don't care. It was a paranormal experience in the true sense of the word. And it was very real for me. Just as your NDE was real to you.

That is what I often time call an "extra reality experience" because it feels too real to be like a normal dream (or daydream) or even an illusion of some kind. I assume of course no drugs were involved.

The difference between normal dreams and such an experience if wide.

By the way, Hello, I have not crossed paths with you yet here at Volconvo. If you were a Native American and had such an experience they might have selected you for training to become a medicene man (holy man of the tribe).

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: lindsay7 I also used to get sleep paralysis often. It is very terrifying when it occurs, but I don't think there is anything supernatural about it. I think it's just this thing that happens with our minds..... when it happened to me I was a lot more emotionally unbalanced than I am now so I think our mental state plays a part in it. I've had deja-vu once.. or would this be called deja-vu? ... I met this guy at my high school, and the first time I met him I wanted really badly to ask him if I had met him somewhere else before, because I couldnt shake the feeling that I knew him from somewhere. I didnt ask though, because i didnt want to sound stupid because there was no where i could have met him. Anyways, as it turned out he became a really good friend to me at a time when i really needed it.

I think I've experienced sleep paralysis, either that or they were terrifying dreams of my bedroom, with me being unable to move, and a dark presence, a being that I can't explain. I used to think these were recurring dreams when I was younger (it's a similar situation every time, obviously) but when I heard about sleep paralysis (essentially you become concious without your brain having shut off your self paralyzing mode that kicks in during REM sleep to prevent injuries from thrashing around; why you are paranoid to the point of sensing a malevolent presence in the room is beyond me) It seemed to fit. I need no other explanation for why people think they are visited by aliens than the sheer terror of the being in the shadows who has somehow paralized you.

[Radarlove]

Technosoul,

Hello, to you too. I have just joined and been active on the afterlife thread.

My experience was induced by the hands on healing and certainly not by drugs! What makes this experience a one-off is that I've experienced healing many times but only once had this paranormal reality directly caused by it.

I have read various books about OOBES and some of the insights I gained are similar. Yet, I didn't leave my body. It certainly wasn't a lucid dream as I was wide awake at the time.

[Piscean]

Radarlove,
Thanks for sharing that, awesome actually, so many posibilities!

[Gods_Mercenary]

Yet, I didn't leave my body. It certainly wasn't a lucid dream as I was wide awake at the time.

You always think you're awake during a dream.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary You always think you're awake during a dream.

Are you trying to underplay experiences that ocur outside of the limitations of the ability to explain things logically? Don't be a party pooper.

[Maryjane]

Quote by: Technosoul Are you trying to underplay experiences that ocur outside of the limitations of the ability to explain things logically? Don't be a party pooper.

Do you not notice a reoccuring theme Techo? Typically lucid dreams or OBE's occur under situations of extreme duress. It's your mind playing tricks on you. You don't have to be asleep or under drugs for this to happen.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: Technosoul Are you trying to underplay experiences that ocur outside of the limitations of the ability to explain things logically? Don't be a party pooper.

I can explain it perfectly logically, you were dreaming or hallucinating.

[Piscean]

I can explain it perfectly logically, you were dreaming or hallucinating.

Stating something like this with no evidence of wht you say, even with confidence,doesn't ring true.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Let's see, you experience something that would usually considered impossible, logically, it's a dream or halllucination. You're the one who has to prove that something unknown to science exists.

[davedes]

Based on my own understanding, I would call Radarlove's experience a form of phasing, sometimes called "astral projection." The experience is similar to an OBE, but without the out-of-body aspect.

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary Let's see, you experience something that would usually considered impossible, logically, it's a dream or halllucination.

These experiences differ so greatly from mere dreams that it would be unwise and misleading to label them as such. A full-blown dream occurs during the REM sleep, and it's arguably the only stage that would induce such realistic visual/auditory hallucinations. OBEs and phasing, on the other hand, has been reported well outside of the REM stage.

Another issue is with the clarity of the experience -- as in a clear and waking consciousness. During a regular dream, the experience is perceived as no different from waking reality. When one is aware that the dream is not waking reality, it's seen as a lucid dream. A lucid dream, by definition, is a dream in which the individual is aware that they are dreaming (which is not the case with OBEs/phasing). Upon waking, as with any dream, the memory of the dream dies swiftly. Often individuals can remember the general happenings of a (lucid) dream, but the details and specifics are lost. With OBEs and phasing, individuals report remembering their experiences in vivid detail for years to come.

These very well may be hallucinations, but they so are incredibly realistic, profound and engaging (far moreso than most hallucinations) that they require an entirely separate field of study to determine more about them.