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Old Apr 24, 2008, 09:57 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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How can you say they're similar? There's a reason marketing executives created the "tween" concept... it's a different demographic.
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 10:01 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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Yet teens, preteens, and children think very alike when it comes to celebrities. Even if it is a different demographic, they still think the same.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 10:16 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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No, they don't. There is a wide continuum of "idol worship" when it comes to celebs.

It's slightly fuzzy when an actor is indentified with a character who is significantly younger or older than them, and then the *real* person in *real* life does age appropriate (or at least sorta appropriate) things, but those actions are *still* not perceived the same by a preteen as they are by a young adult, etc.
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 11:19 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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I saw hana montana posters at target tonight...in the girl's pre-teen section. that's typically elementary school age.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 11:24 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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No, they don't. There is a wide continuum of "idol worship" when it comes to celebs.

It's slightly fuzzy when an actor is indentified with a character who is significantly younger or older than them, and then the *real* person in *real* life does age appropriate (or at least sorta appropriate) things, but those actions are *still* not perceived the same by a preteen as they are by a young adult, etc.
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I saw hana montana posters at target tonight...in the girl's pre-teen section. that's typically elementary school age.
Hey, you have your thoughts on miss montana and I have mine. I'll just say that my brother might disagree with you, him being in love with her and all.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 11:29 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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I think its a cliched show ..

the character is exactly the same as lizzy mgwire, except she has a secret identity


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 11:33 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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Well yeah, its disney, and a secret identity would make it unique, I would think.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 12:41 am   #28 (permalink) (top)
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Hey, you have your thoughts on miss montana and I have mine. I'll just say that my brother might disagree with you, him being in love with her and all.
I was just letting you know that I saw a huge display of her clothing at Target (next to the boys department) I was shopping for my 10 year old. Your brother can fantasize about who he wants to.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 01:18 am   #29 (permalink) (top)
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Being a child, he can and most likely he will.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 06:55 am   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Give her time, the American media will do what they do best, which is build someone right up, then as soon as they slip, tear them completely down.
I don't follow her but Bill O'Reilly does...

(and with that, I'm off to chaperone a elementary school field trip @ Bush Gardens for the day)



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Old Apr 25, 2008, 08:36 am   #31 (permalink) (top)
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It doesn’t seem to have caught on over here, it was on the TV a few Sunday mornings but now it appears to have been taken off. My daughter, who is of the age the show is probably aimed at, showed her approval by sticking her fingers down her throat and making retching noises ... but then she is a Marilyn Manson fan.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 07:31 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah, the tv show does seem a bit american and not so much international.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 11:27 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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I personally feel that Miley Cyrus is a great role model to all young people. Atleast she isn't shaving her head or being a complete scare like Britney Spears, on the other hand. She has the fame and holds herself with her high character. I mean really, how many 15 year olds do you all know that makes 6 digits for writing a book about themselves? Not any I know! Seems to me she's on a role and can achieve anything she wants! I sure think she's a great influence to have other publics set their goals as high as she does!
Right, writing a book about herself... In other words, someone else writes it for her...


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Old Apr 26, 2008, 01:32 am   #34 (permalink) (top)
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I don't know, there was on article on Yahoo! about it and it seemed genuine, shallow, but genuine. There seemed like there was personal information not disclosed before.


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Old Apr 26, 2008, 01:21 pm   #35 (permalink) (top)
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It's called ghostwriting and it's what a lot of celebs use to "write" their books. They dictate some information, situations, etc and a literary person translates it into a book.


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Old Apr 30, 2008, 01:57 am   #36 (permalink) (top)
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your probably right, but we'll never know, will we?


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Old May 1, 2008, 01:56 am   #37 (permalink) (top)
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your probably right, but we'll never know, will we?
Nor will anyone really care, I'm sure. I'm telling ya-- a year from now, we'll all be looking back and saying "Miley who?"
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Old May 1, 2008, 07:12 pm   #38 (permalink) (top)
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Are you sure? Hilary duff, lindsay lohan, (to name just a few disney stars), all lasted for more than a year. Britney spears, and other young singers have lasted for a long time. I think its possible, I'm just not so sure.


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Old May 2, 2008, 03:35 am   #39 (permalink) (top)
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Are you sure? Hilary duff, lindsay lohan, (to name just a few disney stars), all lasted for more than a year. Britney spears, and other young singers have lasted for a long time. I think its possible, I'm just not so sure.
In recent years, the popularity of the the teen-girl-pop-star fad has been decreasing. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty confident that Miley won't be doing much this time next year.
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Old May 2, 2008, 05:57 am   #40 (permalink) (top)
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your probably right, but we'll never know, will we?
Celebrities have agents that put together some great projects for their celebrities, and they simply slap their name on products. For example, George Forman didn't invent that grill. In fact, it was one phonecall away from being the Hulk Hogan grill. Celebrities simply lend their name to a product. Just like they do for perfumes, makeup, etc... She doesn't even write her own songs. There really isn't any confusion about Miley having a ghostwriter for her book.


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