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Old Apr 4, 2008, 05:16 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Is nudity a phychological threat.

Does nudity of it'sef represent a phychological threat to adults or children under the age of 15?
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Old Apr 4, 2008, 08:35 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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It's hard for me to know what, exactly, a psychological threat is.

That said, I would expect that harm would come from a sudden change away from your norm. A child who has been nude forever (or seen nudity forever) will be harmed by being forced to cover up (or seeing that everyone has covered up), just as a child who has lived with clothes forever will be harmed by forced nudity or exposure to nudity. Either change shakes the child's worldview, leaving a sense of alienation. I would expect that any child consistently exposed to both states would be more flexible, comfortable in either setting.

I would suggest that anyone capable of being harmed psychologically is, by definition, a child; adults are supposed to be able to handle trivial changes of custom.


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Old Apr 4, 2008, 10:11 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Does nudity of it'sef represent a phychological threat to adults or children under the age of 15?
That seems kind of silly, considering that to bathe, you have to be nude. So at the very least, if you've never seen someone else naked, they've seen a nude body many times, even if it was their own. So, do they pose a threat to themselves by being nude? That sounds a little rediculous.


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Old Apr 4, 2008, 10:15 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Nudity for nudity's sake is not inherently a psychological threat.

That said, there is some nudity I would deem damaging.

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Old Apr 5, 2008, 12:52 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I really don't see how it could be. Could you elaborate on what you mean by psychological threat?


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Old Apr 5, 2008, 01:38 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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I really don't see how it could be. Could you elaborate on what you mean by psychological threat?
Something tramatic. Like developing a strong desire to expose your self to others.

Like becoming a prevert because that image might cause you to harm others for having been shocked your self.

Like developing a strong dislike for nudity such that you cannot enjoy being open with your lover in an undressed manner. Doing everything undercover.

To feel fearful about a gym class where everyone (of same sex) share the showers.

I don't know for sure, I am not much of a head shrink kind of person.

But it is clear that in our society nudity is concidered as something that would cause a lot of problems, like as if it is an act of agressive behavior that can result in you getting arrested. Why arrest someone if nudity is not a theat to one's phychological health. And it is mostly the adults who panic and call the police. If not a phychological threat then what do they fear? Is it really some sort of morality issue left over from the Biblical days or is it a real "assumed" threat, and why?
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Old Apr 5, 2008, 01:55 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I think the repercussions are a result of the response others have towards nudity, not the response the child has. The child, quite innocently, exposes himself, and receives from the adults one of the worst reactions ever. The child sees others expose themselves, and then they see those others punished harshly. Perhaps the child gets away with exposure, learning, in the process, that all such dealings must happen under the veil of secrecy. All these things can lead to a fear of exposure which, while mitigated by time, might still result in some degree of shyness or discomfort.


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Old Apr 5, 2008, 01:23 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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I think the repercussions are a result of the response
others have towards nudity, not the response the child has.
The child, quite innocently, exposes himself, and receives from the
adults one of the worst reactions ever.
We should all learn to be at relative ease with nudity. However, like most things in life, there is no absolutely foolproof way to determine reactions.

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Old Apr 6, 2008, 12:41 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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We should all learn to be at relative ease with nudity. However, like most things in life, there is no absolutely foolproof way to determine reactions.

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Some people are shocked by a tiny swimsuit even if it covers the private parts that have to do with sex.

And yet people work hard at the gym, spend millions on diets, and jog down the street for hours, in order to look trim and sexy, they desire to become objects of sexual attraction or to be seen as having a beautiful body. Promoted to do this via advertising, movies, etc.

And yet, not really allowed to show it off at public shopping centers, workplaces, eating establishments, etc. Without complaints that they are indecent.

No shirt, no service.

Is that odd or not?
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Old Apr 6, 2008, 01:36 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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i grew up in a family that was relatively liberal in this area... I have been to a nudist resort on more than one ocassion. It's always great fun when the weather is nice outside. There are kids there and they seem to be extremely well adjust to that atmosphere. I think nudity is an amazing thing. It rids people of silly hangups and the idea that being naked is somehow wrong.

I remember the first week i was living with my new roommate after having lived in this house on my own for 4 months. I walked around everywhere in a pair of PJ pants because they were comfortable. I remembered to stay kind of covered up for about a week before she saw me in a pair of shorts... after that it couldn't be better. She realized I didn't have any hangups, she didn't have any hangups. Now we live perfectly normally and comfortably.


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Old Apr 6, 2008, 10:18 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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No shirt, no service.

Is that odd or not?
I think that policy has more to do with public health and cleanliness than nudity. Do you really want people transferring athletes foot to eachother or knocking off some armpit hair on the produce in your convenience store?
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Old Apr 7, 2008, 08:58 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Some people are shocked by a tiny swimsuit even if
it covers the private parts that have to do with
sex.
And yet people work hard at the gym, spend millions
on diets, and jog down the street for hours, in
order to look trim and sexy, they desire to become
objects of sexual attraction or to be seen as having
a beautiful body.
Sex probably comes to mind a lot during the day's work & commute hours, because that's typically the most mindless part of the day. It can be hard to not check out a "beautiful body" at work to help ease the pain, or to at least to find the best one to look at occasionally. I'm not sure if imagining people nude is always damaging, though. I think it mostly depends on how "damaged" the individual is.

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Old Apr 7, 2008, 09:48 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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I think that policy has more to do with public health and cleanliness than nudity. Do you really want people transferring athletes foot to eachother or knocking off some armpit hair on the produce in your convenience store?
Everyone knows you should wash produce off before eating it.

Athletes foot is a fungi that grows because you wear socks and shoes and the feet get damp due to sweating, not wearing shoes allow you feet to dry out.

You seem to have a paranoid attitude about a lot of things?

If someone is working as a cheif then they are required to wear a hat and other clothing to prevent what you mentioned. Needless to say there are rare exceptions to any thumbnail standard.
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Old Apr 7, 2008, 09:54 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Sex probably comes to mind a lot during the day's work & commute hours, because that's typically the most mindless part of the day. It can be hard to not check out a "beautiful body" at work to help ease the pain, or to at least to find the best one to look at occasionally. I'm not sure if imagining people nude is always damaging, though. I think it mostly depends on how "damaged" the individual is.

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If people were in fact naked then you would not be forced to imagine them that way, and would be less likely to invent a fantasy that becomes problematic if you must then spend money to go to a peepshow bar or spend money on some publication with nudity photos.
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Old Apr 7, 2008, 10:07 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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If people were in fact naked then you would not
be forced to imagine them that way, and would be
less likely to invent a fantasy that becomes problematic if
you must then spend money to go to a peepshow
bar or spend money on some publication with nudity photos.
True, and there are legal reasons to fear nudity. Maybe you fear the cops will bust you for peeing in the woods, for example (if you live in such an area, that is). If you get caught doing that in some states, you can be labelled as a "sexual deviant."

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Old Apr 13, 2008, 10:28 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Does nudity of it'sef represent a phychological threat to adults or children under the age of 15?
You know, I never have understood society's attempt to sheild their children from nudity. I don't understand what is so deadly about a naked guy or girl. I mean, you would have to hit a kid pretty hard with a pair of tits to even leave a bruise.

No, I don't think nudity is psychologically threatening. Clothes were not designed by ancient societies to hide their genitals; they were designed for warmth. Why is it then that I would get arrested for walking around naked on a hot summer day? Because people are stupid, that's why.
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Old Apr 14, 2008, 01:31 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think children are comfortable with naked adults, it would scare them probably.
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Old Apr 14, 2008, 01:50 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think children are comfortable with naked adults, it would scare them probably.
They might get scared by shadows on their bedroom walls, but they can learn how to put aside such fears in order to cope with reality by overcoming a fantasy.

Is the fear of nudity based in a fantasy or based on something that is a real threat?

Of course, fear or dislike of nudity is not the only phychological issue on the table. Some might find pleasure in getting "turned on" by seeing nude people at a park at 12 noon. A thrill. That first thrill is like the first kiss, it can become a known source for energy and therefore become a kind of phychological way of getting high. What about that? good of bad?
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Old Apr 14, 2008, 08:28 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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They might get scared by shadows on their bedroom walls,
but they can learn how to put aside such fears
in order to cope with reality by overcoming a fantasy.
Is the fear of nudity based in a fantasy or
based on something that is a real threat?
It's always a real threat to them, in the sense that virtually anyone could be a threat.

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Old Apr 14, 2008, 08:33 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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They might get scared by shadows on their bedroom walls, but they can learn how to put aside such fears in order to cope with reality by overcoming a fantasy.
But is it really necessary to walk around chidren naked and train them to be comfortable with it?
In a day and age where we have so many different sorts of clothes to wear, what purpose would you want this to serve?
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