All men are bi-sexual

[annier2004]

...................................some prefer men to women, so that makes them gay........................................discuss!

[Halofan48]

uh, what?

the title says all men are bi, they post talks about gay men. How does that make all men bi?

[annier2004]

as i said ALL men are bi.........................so they could basically go either way

[Tycoon]

Uuuum, no? I'm not attracted to women and wouldn't have sex with one, I'm just plain gay.

[Halofan48]

look dude, if your bi, fine whatever, big deal. But that doesn't mean all men are bi.

[gela]

I think most people - male or female, are a little bit bi.

If you look at sparta, all the boys were gay or bi - because thats what society saw as normal.

[Tycoon]

If you look at sparta, all the boys were gay or bi - because thats what society saw as normal.

Damnit, wish I was alive back then.

[sissybaby]

I think we all can say we've looked at the same sex at one time or another and said they are a good looking guy/girl and not wanted them in a sexual way.

Jessica

[G. Adams]

I possibly am but have never seen one, real life or TV, that turned me on, so I guess I'm just verry picky. Women on the other hand, I'm like a kid in sweet shop.

[grandpa]

Quote by: G. Adams I possibly am but have never seen one, real life or TV, that turned me on, so I guess I'm just verry picky. Women on the other hand, I'm like a kid in sweet shop.

Not even Johnny Depp?

Grandpa h.

[Chaossaber314]

Judging whether someone is attractive or not is completely different from being sexually attracted to someone.

There are plenty of women who I can see as attractive but do not consider my type. The inverse is true as well. There's plenty of women that I find sexually attractive that others do not.

Ack, this thread just seems to reek of a poor attempt at pigeonholing.

[phoenix_fire]

Quote by: gela I think most people - male or female, are a little bit bi. If you look at sparta, all the boys were gay or bi - because thats what society saw as normal.

I don't find women in the least bit appealing sexually. And God knows I'm subjected to enough mostly-nude-girls cr*p while surfing the net to be able to make an informed decision. I am filled with extreme revulsion every time I'm forced to see that mental picture. I'd rather be celibate my entire life than "switch sides".

[Muckraker]

Quote by: phoenix_fire I don't find women in the least bit appealing sexually.

This stance requires you to know the gender of the person you are looking at, which means it is not based solely on the appearance of the person. Saying you don't find women attractive is almost like saying you don't find republicans attractive. In both scenarios, you may need to probe for additional information in order to determine if the person you are looking at falls in the category of who you decided you don't find attractive.

I suppose you could say you are only attracted to male genitalia and the prospects of procreation, in which case you should espouse the virtues of the penis, testicles, and semen instead of saying the person you are attracted to has nice hair or a good personality.

If that were the case, though, you would not really be able to ever find someone attractive until you had seen them without pants and had some motility tests run on their genetic offerings.

Think of the most attractive male you have ever seen. How would your level of attraction change if you discovered he was actually a woman?

[phoenix_fire]

I said I'm not sexually attracted to women. I'm not attracted to their physical attributes. I'm not attracted to their general personalities. Girls drive me nuts. I know there are exceptions on the personality thing (I am, in fact, an exception to most female stereotypes of personality) but I would find either prospect too unsettling. There are several dimensions of attraction and, in correlation to one of your points as you so crassly put it, I am not at all attracted physically to female genitalia in the least. The nuts and bolts (no pun intended) of sexuality are an integral part of the nature of attraction from which we cannot escape. Appearance is by no means whatsoever the end-all of attraction for me, but it's just silly to postulate on the prospect of sex with someone that I don't find sexually attractive.

To put it simply, I just don't engage on that level psychologically or emotionally with someone whose gender is ambiguous. It takes more than a "come hither glance" for me. I like looking at the pretty boys in anime because there are no strings attached there. I'm a lot more cautious and careful when we're talking about a real person.

I'm trying really hard to picture your scenario, but I just don't go for petite men with light voices, small hands, etc. You just don't find a lot of tall, broad-shouldered, flat-chested, reasonably deep-voiced women out there. At least I haven't.

[gela]

I don't find women in the least bit appealing sexually. And God knows I'm subjected to enough mostly-nude-girls cr*p while surfing the net to be able to make an informed decision. I am filled with extreme revulsion every time I'm forced to see that mental picture. I'd rather be celibate my entire life than "switch sides".

I think that society's standards play a part in that. Like I said before, because bisexuality was the norm for spartans, all the spartans were bisexual.
Im sure the thought of sleeping with another female revolts you, because since we were born we were told that girls love boys. I didn't even know what homosexuality was until I was about 5.

[Tycoon]

I am filled with extreme revulsion every time I'm forced to see that mental picture. I'd rather be celibate my entire life than "switch sides".

Of course you would, you can't just switch sides. If you were lesbian it would be the same. I mean, I didn't just decide to "switch sides".

[veri-debatable]

your a lil confused? I guess? But i dont belive that is so because its not like gay men or women choose like for real they dont wake up one sunny day exclaiming " gee wiz! What a nice day it is i think i want be a lesbian!" thats ridicules plus what about the fact that there are real homo phobics that cannot stand to see a same sex relationship so i disagree with your observation, sorry!

[phoenix_fire]

It's not homophobic to be off put by the idea of homosexual relations. It is if it affects how you treat people. I'll never understand how the side that so trumpets that homosexuality is not a choice but predetermined by birth can on the other hand be so antagonistic against heterosexuality. Telling a heterosexual they should be ok with the idea of homosexual relations should be to that crowd like telling a homosexual young man "why can't you just find a nice girl and settle down?". We don't have to accept the act to be civil to the people. We shouldn't have to.

[Jack]

It's not homophobic to be off put by the idea of homosexual relations. It is if it affects how you treat people.

I agree with that. It's not the thoughts in your head that affects others in society, it's your actions. Lot's of us act in contradiction to our inner opinions. If that results in a positive outcome, I can find no fault.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Isherwood I agree with that. It's not the thoughts in your head that affects others in society, it's your actions.

It reminds me of the other thread about people reading our thoughts. Of course, thoughts can lead to actions.

Heinrich Himmler (Reichsfuhrer SS) said in a speech in 1936:
"Just as we today have gone back to
the ancient Germanic view on the question of marriage mixing different
races, so too in our judgement of homosexuality, a symptom of
degeneracy which could destroy our race, we must return to the
guiding Nordic principle: extermination of degenerates."

Unfortunately, people listened. Blind obedience is one of the main complaints I have about the world. Still, thought control in some sense is necessary to avert this. It's one of the fascinating ironies of life.

Grandpa h.