All men are bi-sexual

[Tycoon]

And I gueruntee I'm a real man!!

Is that to suggest that I am not?

[auggi1457]

I belive that everyone is a little bit bisexual. Everyone is not 100% gay or straight. We all think at least once something sexually different.

[Anmon]

Bi sexual people make me sick, they have only love for sex, they don't care how they get it, and they are the reason aids jumped from the gays to the rest of society

[Hurt]

Quote by: Anmon Bi sexual people make me sick, they have only love for sex, they don't care how they get it, and they are the reason aids jumped from the gays to the rest of society

You're way too prejudiced against non-heterosexuals. You need to take a look at people and not stereotypes. I honestly refuse to believe that being bisexual or homosexual (as in the other thread) makes you susceptible to promiscuity.

[Jack]

Quote by: Anmon Bi sexual people make me sick, they have only love for sex, they don't care how they get it, and they are the reason aids jumped from the gays to the rest of society

Bisexuality is both an orientation and behavior. One doesn't imply the other.
No doubt AIDS was also transmitted by gay men, still in the closet, married to women. Why were they still afraid to live openly as who they were? Attitudes like those expressed in the quotation. By the way, gonorrhea has historically been the most common STD, and it's essentially a straight disease. So let's debate the morals of all those straight men who infected their partners.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Hurt You're way too prejudiced against non-heterosexuals. You need to take a look at people and not stereotypes. I honestly refuse to believe that being bisexual or homosexual (as in the other thread) makes you susceptible to promiscuity.

I am only prejudiced as you put it, because of the complete collapse of morality in the last forty years in the west, that has allowed homosexuality and bisexuality to be taught as normal behaviours, when they are not.
Proven studies have shown gay men and bisexual men have multiple partners often, and a lot more casual sexual encounters than heterosexual men, so there goes your doubts about their promiscuity up in flames.

[Jack]

Proven studies have shown gay men and bisexual men have multiple partners often, and a lot more casual sexual encounters than heterosexual men, so there goes your doubts about their promiscuity up in flames.

How does one prove anything in sociology? Can you provide links to some of those studies?

[Anmon]

Quote by: Isherwood Bisexuality is both an orientation and behavior. One doesn't imply the other. No doubt AIDS was also transmitted by gay men, still in the closet, married to women. Why were they still afraid to live openly as who they were? Attitudes like those expressed in the quotation. By the way, gonorrhea has historically been the most common STD, and it's essentially a straight disease. So let's debate the morals of all those straight men who infected their partners.

Those men if really gay would never have married women in the first place, they are bisexual.
Aids is a lot more serious than gonorrhea, would you honestly have to think if offered a choice?

[Jack]

Those men if really gay would never have married women in the first place, they are bisexual.

A supposition not based on evidence or personal experience. Having known quite a few men in this position, I disagree. A gay person can behave as a straight person without being straight, and vice versa.

[Maryjane]

Can you provide links to some of those studies?

I'm sure they come from conservapedia.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Isherwood How does one prove anything in sociology? Can you provide links to some of those studies?

If you can stomach the reading-
High-Risk Behaviors Among Men Who Have Sex With Men in 6 US Cities: Baseline Data From the EXPLORE Study -- Koblin et al. 93 (6): 926 -- American Journal of Public Health
National: CDC: Gay, bi men driving epidemic Black community's risk nearly tenfold
UCSF News Office - UNPROTECTED ANAL SEX INCREASING IN SAN FRANCISCO
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Metro -- Bisexual, gay Latinos show high AIDS rates
Secret encounters of bisexual black men could be creating wave of infected women
Increases in Unsafe Sex and Rectal Gonorrhea Among Men Who Have Sex With Men -- San Francisco, California, 1994-1997
Crystal Meth Use High (6%) Among Gay Men in the North Carolina: hi rates of HIV, anal sex without condom use, STDs, sex with females, Viagra use
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[Anmon]

Quote by: Maryjane I'm sure they come from conservapedia.

As apposed to studies and sources carried out by GSLEN or NOW?

[Jack]

What I find sad in this whole debate is the assumption that sexuality is an either/or situation. People who insist on viewing life through the misapprehension that everything is either this or that, black or white, are no better than computers that can only think in terms of on or off, 1 or 0, input or output. They are missing all the richness of life that falls between the extremes, the gray areas. They cheapen their own existence.

I'll be blogging about this later so I'm not going to go on at length here, but to base this debate on the notion that in sexuality your only choice is gay or straight is nonsensical.

[Anmon]

I believe it is 'gay or straight' as you say in gayspeak, and anyone else in between is really gay.
I don't believe in these grey area either, they are a theory that you can be many things at once, that many possibility's can happen at once, or many faults are to blame at once, when life and its situations are a lot more straight forward and a lot more simple than that.
For example would you walk up to a man who was half American negro and half caucasian and tell him he was actually grey?
Because he was both races at once?
He would probably tell you he was black, a brother, that he could say 'nigger' in a comradely kind of way to another black man and not be viewed as racist for it.
Or would you tell him Isherwood, that he is actually a grey area, both white and black?
Because you say life is not absolutes, not either black or white.

[Jack]

I don't believe in these grey area either, they are a theory that you can be many things at once, that many possibility's can happen at once, or many faults are to blame at once, when life and its situations are a lot more straight forward and a lot more simple than that.

A perfect illustration of the inability to appreciate the richness of life by absurdly reducing it to a matter of extremes. Life is complex. Attempting to reduce the complexity to a more manageable, simple-to-understand either/or world is to deny the fullness of life. Life doesn't need to be sold so short or so cheaply.

[combuster]

correction, all people are bi-sexual to some degree, whether they like it or not. People have allowed themselves, myself not withstanding, to become culturally conditioned into believing that everything that can be observed should be categorized. People need to stop having false epitome's about human sexuality it is far too random and bizzare and precious to break into categories and the subcategories, and so on.
i hope everybody stops posting on this overpatronizing thread to a very simplistic unoriginal statement.

cheers
-Rabo

[Nono]

I guess then that everybody is also -- more or less -- open to bestiality.
Stands to reason.

[Anmon]

no nono

[Anmon]

Quote by: Isherwood A perfect illustration of the inability to appreciate the richness of life by absurdly reducing it to a matter of extremes. Life is complex. Attempting to reduce the complexity to a more manageable, simple-to-understand either/or world is to deny the fullness of life. Life doesn't need to be sold so short or so cheaply.

So would you tell that to the politically correct who view any person even if he has only one quarter black and the rest white, that he is the 'extreme' you hate -in this case black, because political correctness dictates you do?

[Jack]

Quote by: Anmon So would you tell that to the politically correct who view any person even if he has only one quarter black and the rest white, that he is the 'extreme' you hate -in this case black, because political correctness dictates you do?

I'd respond but I have no idea what you're saying.