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**Jack** · Mar 6, 2008, 12:01 pm

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Still, thought control in some sense is necessary to avert this.

I think modification is preferable to control.

grandpa · Mar 6, 2008, 12:08 pm

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I think modification is preferable to control.

But you're just using a different, "softer" term to decribe essentially the same thing, which kind of illustrates my point.

Grandpa h.

Rainbow · Mar 6, 2008, 02:39 pm

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All men are bi-sexual

Since the phrase "all men " indicates "every single man" , can you provide some data, in order to support your statement ?
How about : "all women" ? :-)

grandpa · Mar 7, 2008, 08:59 am

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Since the phrase "all men " indicates "every single man" , can
you provide some data, in order to support your statement ?
How about : "all women" ? :-)

The original statement has a military sense about it, really.

The frustrating thing is that it's not entirely easy to gauge sexuality. For example, is a man who gets turned on for no apparent reason attracted to everything? Not really. It's also true that some have experimented at some point in their lives. Certainly not all among them consider themselves bisexual later on.

Grandpa h.

almost-cut-my-h · Mar 9, 2008, 05:04 pm

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look dude, if your bi, fine whatever, big deal. But that doesn't mean all men are bi.

more men than ever are turning gay.why? because women are calling the shots more than ever now.they behave like blokes.drink pints like blokes.demand sex like blokes.punch as hard as blokes.are loud, swear etc etc. what bloke wants that eh?

Halofan48 · Mar 9, 2008, 05:42 pm

Maybe one of the reasons that here are more gay men is that there is a n overpopulation issue right now. Also, maybe more people who were gay are now admitting it since it's more accepted then it was not that long ago.

almost-cut-my-h · Mar 10, 2008, 08:21 am

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Maybe one of the reasons that here are more gay men is that there is a n overpopulation issue right now. Also, maybe more people who were gay are now admitting it since it's more accepted then it was not that long ago.

i agree with your comments.i reckon there are many gay/bi men out there

Jaaaman · Mar 10, 2008, 08:55 am

I am heterosexual through and through... no attraction at all to men period...

This is kind of a silly thread IMHO

almost-cut-my-h · Mar 10, 2008, 10:15 am

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I am heterosexual through and through... no attraction at all to men period...

This is kind of a silly thread IMHO

no its not jr ewing! perhaps youre a closet bender

Jaaaman · Mar 10, 2008, 10:58 am

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no its not jr ewing! perhaps youre a closet bender

You're a real pill... why don't you go outside and get some sunshine there pal... you sound as if you really need it.

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Jaaaman · Mar 10, 2008, 11:20 am

He started it with his 'closet bender' comment. I don't suffer fools well.

Kuldeep · Mar 11, 2008, 02:52 am

The statement can be generalised for both men, women or even neutrals; anybody, who has sexual instinct would turn bisexual when arosed alarmingly to the maximum limit but, not finding partner ot release the urge (opposite sex).

Scientifically speaking both men and women have bi-sexual harmones and so acts at times bisexual but very rarely.

phoenix_fire · Mar 17, 2008, 10:36 am

Just because the hormone is there does not mean that it is at all determinant in preference. To say that it is denotes a lack of understanding of the nature of biochemistry.

Kuldeep · Mar 20, 2008, 02:54 am

What is wrong with the understanding of bio-chemistry?? Both male and female harmones are present in all type of sexes. Predomnancy of either determines the sex of the person or say inclination or tendency to behave as the person behaves !! Simple !!

phoenix_fire · Mar 20, 2008, 10:12 am

There's nothing wrong in understanding it: as a matter of fact, that's exactly what I'm advocating. But hormones don't exactly express themselves in the way you're implying. Their interactions are more complex.

Kzirb · Mar 20, 2008, 04:45 pm

It's an interesting topic. I've had many people tell me that they think everyone is a little bi-sexual, but this only says a little bit about themselves. Having dreams about sexual relations with the same sex does not mean that the dreamer is gay or bisexual. Getting turned on around people of the same sex does not necessarily mean one is gay or bisexual, as it can often be the result of nervousness, excitement, stray thoughts, stimulation or a number of other things. I'm a man, and whenever I think about sex, I think about women. I didn't choose to be this way, I just am. It's kind of similar to the fact that I prefer chocolate to vanilla, but I didn't choose to prefer chocolate to vanilla.

Kuldeep · Mar 24, 2008, 07:50 am

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There's nothing wrong in understanding it: as a matter of fact, that's exactly what I'm advocating. But hormones don't exactly express themselves in the way you're implying. Their interactions are more complex.

Oh, I have forgotten in which way I applied the effect of hormones!!

Let say in different words. I said males get sometimes feeling sensation of acting like a female and female get a feeling to act like a male. This happens due to presence of both types of hormones.

However, I agree with you hormonal behavior and their interactions are complex.

Piscean · Apr 1, 2008, 08:01 pm

I can't speak for all men but the thought of even touching another guy in a sexual waqy has never and will never do anything but meke my sick!! And I gueruntee I'm a real man!! So the title of this thread has been proven false for me anyway.

ParaTed2k · Apr 4, 2008, 02:11 pm

That's about as stupid as saying

"All women are into bestiality and pedophilia".

I mean, if your only qualifier seem to be because men "can" go either way.

Mar 9, 2008, 05:42 pm	#26 (permalink) (top)
Halofan48 Seeking the Unknown Location: Southern California Posts: 1,263	Maybe one of the reasons that here are more gay men is that there is a n overpopulation issue right now. Also, maybe more people who were gay are now admitting it since it's more accepted then it was not that long ago. Knowledge is power, use it well. Don't fear the unknown, seek to understand it

Mar 17, 2008, 10:36 am	#34 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	Just because the hormone is there does not mean that it is at all determinant in preference. To say that it is denotes a lack of understanding of the nature of biochemistry. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

Mar 20, 2008, 10:12 am	#36 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	There's nothing wrong in understanding it: as a matter of fact, that's exactly what I'm advocating. But hormones don't exactly express themselves in the way you're implying. Their interactions are more complex. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

Apr 4, 2008, 02:11 pm	#40 (permalink) (top)
ParaTed2k Molten Ash Posts: 134	That's about as stupid as saying "All women are into bestiality and pedophilia". I mean, if your only qualifier seem to be because men "can" go either way. Satirizing the Serious at ParaTed2k's (Not So) Famous Store

Mar 10, 2008, 08:55 am	#28 (permalink) (top)
Jaaaman Socks - R - Us Location: Texas Posts: 48	I am heterosexual through and through... no attraction at all to men period... This is kind of a silly thread IMHO

Mar 10, 2008, 11:20 am	#32 (permalink) (top)
Jaaaman Socks - R - Us Location: Texas Posts: 48	He started it with his 'closet bender' comment. I don't suffer fools well.

Mar 11, 2008, 02:52 am	#33 (permalink) (top)
Kuldeep Kuldeep Location: Bhopa, M.P, India Posts: 1,640	The statement can be generalised for both men, women or even neutrals; anybody, who has sexual instinct would turn bisexual when arosed alarmingly to the maximum limit but, not finding partner ot release the urge (opposite sex). Scientifically speaking both men and women have bi-sexual harmones and so acts at times bisexual but very rarely.

Mar 20, 2008, 02:54 am	#35 (permalink) (top)
Kuldeep Kuldeep Location: Bhopa, M.P, India Posts: 1,640	What is wrong with the understanding of bio-chemistry?? Both male and female harmones are present in all type of sexes. Predomnancy of either determines the sex of the person or say inclination or tendency to behave as the person behaves !! Simple !!

Mar 20, 2008, 04:45 pm	#37 (permalink) (top)
Kzirb Sedimentary Rock Posts: 2	It's an interesting topic. I've had many people tell me that they think everyone is a little bi-sexual, but this only says a little bit about themselves. Having dreams about sexual relations with the same sex does not mean that the dreamer is gay or bisexual. Getting turned on around people of the same sex does not necessarily mean one is gay or bisexual, as it can often be the result of nervousness, excitement, stray thoughts, stimulation or a number of other things. I'm a man, and whenever I think about sex, I think about women. I didn't choose to be this way, I just am. It's kind of similar to the fact that I prefer chocolate to vanilla, but I didn't choose to prefer chocolate to vanilla.

Apr 1, 2008, 08:01 pm	#39 (permalink) (top)
Piscean Igneous Magma Posts: 279	I can't speak for all men but the thought of even touching another guy in a sexual waqy has never and will never do anything but meke my sick!! And I gueruntee I'm a real man!! So the title of this thread has been proven false for me anyway.