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annier2004 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:21 pm

give me a break..............................action man he aint, this really pisses me off , he is ONE MAN he isnt any more special than anyone else who chooses to be in the military, its what they are paid to do, in this farce of a 'war'

**Matt W** · Feb 28, 2008, 06:23 pm

This isn't Breaking News. Follow the format EXACTLy when posting to this forum. Moving.

annier2004 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:27 pm

hi, i am watching the ten o'clock news as we speak, and, believe me in the good old uk it IS breaking news, sad isnt it !

annier2004 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:34 pm

this shouldnt be in misc, this is a complete travesty, the people of the uk are watching this tripe, being told that this was supposed to be top secret, that good old harry didnt want anyone to know he was there....................what a flaming joke

**Jack** · Feb 28, 2008, 06:40 pm

Without a link or quote from the story, those of us who don't live in England have no idea what you're talking about.

annier2004 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:41 pm

i am sory, will try bto bring you up to date !

annier2004 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:45 pm

ok, i have tried, but am not good at copying etc, if you please just look at bbc, itv news uk, and you will see what all the fuss is about !

annier2004 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:46 pm

if you could bring in a link i would greatly appreciate it !

freedom13 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:54 pm

UK's Prince Harry fighting in Afghanistan

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UK's Prince Harry fighting in Afghanistan - CNN.com
He was deployed 10 weeks ago and his fellow soldiers were sworn to secrecy.

The prince's status is currently being reviewed, the Ministry of Defense said.

Harry is third in line to the British throne and serves with the Blues and Royals.

His main role has been as a member of a group called Joint Tactical Air Control, or JTAC.

"As far as I'm concerned I'm out here as a normal JTAC on the ground and not as Prince Harry" he said.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "The whole of Britain will be proud of the outstanding service he is giving. For the last 10 weeks, he has joined the thousands of members of the British Armed Forces who have served with such distinction in difficult circumstances in Afghanistan since 2001."

In a pre-deployment interview with the British Press Association, he said: "If I'm wanted, if I'm needed, then I will serve my country as I signed up to do."

The head of the British Army, Chief of the General Staff Sir Richard Dannatt, said Harry's deployment had been kept secret after striking an agreement with the media.

annier2004 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:55 pm

will someone PLEASE agree with me that this is a HUGE PR stunt to make us all think that this 'war' is worthwhile.....................it is an absolute insult to all those lives that have been lost i the name of oil, drugs, and money

annier2004 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:56 pm

thankyou, freedom

annier2004 · Feb 28, 2008, 06:59 pm

MODS..................................PLEASE move this out of misc !!!

Compugasm · Feb 28, 2008, 10:06 pm

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Quote by: annier2004

will someone PLEASE agree with me that this is a HUGE PR stunt to make us all think that this 'war' is worthwhile...

We don't agree. A PR stunt would be the Bush daughters on a USO tour.

G. Adams · Feb 29, 2008, 07:20 am

A) I don't care if your Prince Harry or Joe Bloggs, if you join the army, go through all of your training, you will not want to leave behind your best friends. You have the kind of bond between each other that civvies only get when in great relationships. Harry will have wanted to go out there more than anyone else.

B) If a news reporter found this out, he would report on it, it is very news worthy.

So, while I don't doubt that the government would be prepared to do the leaking here, that doesn't mean they did.

Oh and he is more special than the other troops in that his capture would be a huge media coup for the Afghan fighters. If they knew his location they would make a great effort to capture him, more than any other soldier in the forces. This puts him and those around him in greater risk. So yes, he is different to the other squaddies.

And personally, I have little affection for the monarchy, but my opinion of Harry is much improved by his being there, even if he gets a cushy role. If he makes it to the crown he should know what he is sending the forces to when he signs off on a declaration of war.

Chancellor · Feb 29, 2008, 12:35 pm

I think he should be left in Afghanistan with his unit. Notice this quote from the article: "As far as I'm concerned I'm out here as a normal JTAC on the ground and not as Prince Harry" he said.

He's third in line to the English throne and he chooses to serve in the military in a war zone - I don't see the third in line for the American presidency joining the military and serving in a combat zone!

phoenix_fire · Mar 1, 2008, 02:37 am

I think it's rather noble. It's far better than someone who's born with a silver spoon in his/her mouth, who'll send the peasants off to do the dirty work while living it up on their tax money. I think if he was just "playing soldier", he would have bailed by now. War is not for the faint of heart.

And I agree that it should remain secret. He'd have half the Middle East after him if they knew about it. If they captured him, they could use him as a bargaining chip, or murder him in the most humiliating and painful way they can think of just to make a propaganda video out of it.

dreamer · Mar 1, 2008, 06:01 am

Thats if is there at all. what people see on the news is never what it seems .

**Matt W** · Mar 1, 2008, 06:25 am

Of course dreamer, the photos are all doctored, his unit was never there...puh-lease.

Nono · Mar 1, 2008, 08:30 am

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Quote by: Phoenix

I think it's rather noble.

Holy shit, what garbage. The word you're groping for there is "pathetic" I believe.

Here's a Royal who, quite understandably, yearned to be just one of the boys for once.
I understand that. And he had (still has, apparently) his head filled with adolescent shoot-em-up war phantasies that he needed to live out.

But otherwise I do indeed see it as a publicity stunt, and all the supposed indignation on the part of the Brass that it's been leaked -- nonsense.

The Royal Family has plenty of members to spare. After all, Harry's uncle did some pretty risky stuff in the Falklands War.

Nono · Mar 1, 2008, 09:55 am

Of course, Harry Windsor may be disappointed to leave Afghanistan. But Harry Flashman, on the other hand ...

Feb 28, 2008, 06:21 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
annier2004 annier2004 Location: uk Posts: 39	prince harry give me a break..............................action man he aint, this really pisses me off , he is ONE MAN he isnt any more special than anyone else who chooses to be in the military, its what they are paid to do, in this farce of a 'war'

Feb 28, 2008, 06:23 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 7,191	This isn't Breaking News. Follow the format EXACTLy when posting to this forum. Moving. I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

Feb 28, 2008, 06:40 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,180	Without a link or quote from the story, those of us who don't live in England have no idea what you're talking about. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Feb 29, 2008, 07:20 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,174	A) I don't care if your Prince Harry or Joe Bloggs, if you join the army, go through all of your training, you will not want to leave behind your best friends. You have the kind of bond between each other that civvies only get when in great relationships. Harry will have wanted to go out there more than anyone else. B) If a news reporter found this out, he would report on it, it is very news worthy. So, while I don't doubt that the government would be prepared to do the leaking here, that doesn't mean they did. Oh and he is more special than the other troops in that his capture would be a huge media coup for the Afghan fighters. If they knew his location they would make a great effort to capture him, more than any other soldier in the forces. This puts him and those around him in greater risk. So yes, he is different to the other squaddies. And personally, I have little affection for the monarchy, but my opinion of Harry is much improved by his being there, even if he gets a cushy role. If he makes it to the crown he should know what he is sending the forces to when he signs off on a declaration of war. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Feb 29, 2008, 12:35 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
Chancellor It's my first name! Location: Buffalo, New York, USA Posts: 3,523	I think he should be left in Afghanistan with his unit. Notice this quote from the article: "As far as I'm concerned I'm out here as a normal JTAC on the ground and not as Prince Harry" he said. He's third in line to the English throne and he chooses to serve in the military in a war zone - I don't see the third in line for the American presidency joining the military and serving in a combat zone! "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams -

Feb 28, 2008, 06:27 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
annier2004 annier2004 Location: uk Posts: 39	hi, i am watching the ten o'clock news as we speak, and, believe me in the good old uk it IS breaking news, sad isnt it !

Feb 28, 2008, 06:34 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
annier2004 annier2004 Location: uk Posts: 39	this shouldnt be in misc, this is a complete travesty, the people of the uk are watching this tripe, being told that this was supposed to be top secret, that good old harry didnt want anyone to know he was there....................what a flaming joke

Feb 28, 2008, 06:41 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
annier2004 annier2004 Location: uk Posts: 39	i am sory, will try bto bring you up to date !

Feb 28, 2008, 06:45 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
annier2004 annier2004 Location: uk Posts: 39	ok, i have tried, but am not good at copying etc, if you please just look at bbc, itv news uk, and you will see what all the fuss is about !

Feb 28, 2008, 06:46 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
annier2004 annier2004 Location: uk Posts: 39	if you could bring in a link i would greatly appreciate it !

Feb 28, 2008, 06:55 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
annier2004 annier2004 Location: uk Posts: 39	will someone PLEASE agree with me that this is a HUGE PR stunt to make us all think that this 'war' is worthwhile.....................it is an absolute insult to all those lives that have been lost i the name of oil, drugs, and money

Feb 28, 2008, 06:56 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
annier2004 annier2004 Location: uk Posts: 39	thankyou, freedom

Feb 28, 2008, 06:59 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
annier2004 annier2004 Location: uk Posts: 39	MODS..................................PLEASE move this out of misc !!!

Mar 1, 2008, 02:37 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	I think it's rather noble. It's far better than someone who's born with a silver spoon in his/her mouth, who'll send the peasants off to do the dirty work while living it up on their tax money. I think if he was just "playing soldier", he would have bailed by now. War is not for the faint of heart. And I agree that it should remain secret. He'd have half the Middle East after him if they knew about it. If they captured him, they could use him as a bargaining chip, or murder him in the most humiliating and painful way they can think of just to make a propaganda video out of it. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

Mar 1, 2008, 06:01 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
dreamer Igneous Magma Posts: 683	Thats if is there at all. what people see on the news is never what it seems .

Mar 1, 2008, 06:25 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 7,191	Of course dreamer, the photos are all doctored, his unit was never there...puh-lease. I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

Mar 1, 2008, 09:55 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
Nono Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 7,439	Of course, Harry Windsor may be disappointed to leave Afghanistan. But Harry Flashman, on the other hand ... "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne