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thx1138 · Mar 2, 2008, 07:34 am

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Hm, You're right, that is a factor, I hadn't given that much thought. Perhaps one thing we can do to improve the education system is make sure teachers will provide the information without teaching them to blindly believe it. I know some do and some don't. My Bio teacher said before he taught evolution that it can conflict religion and to think what you think is right in your mind, while a friend of mine says her teacher said that evolution is completely wrong. So it is a problem. We should teach people in a way where they know the information and can make their own opinions on it.

If you're in a public school, you're not being taught to have your own opinions, you're being trained to accept the opinions given to you. Some teacher do break from this rule, but they run the risk of being outcasted or even fired.

The system does a good job at making a work force who is in debt so they have no chose but to work, employers really like that kind of emplyee because they won't be walking off the job as much as an employee that has a savings and has more freedom to pick his or her job.

Nono · Mar 2, 2008, 08:06 am

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Unfortunately, our school's speech and debate club was cancelled.

I rest my case. Well, for now ...

**Chris** · Mar 2, 2008, 11:29 am

Thats why its important for parents to teach a supplement to a school curriculum. I already have taught my 3 year old daughter about stars and constellations - other suns... She understands.

F the public schools, They can teach the back bone but I will provide a supplement.

**Jack** · Mar 2, 2008, 11:32 am

Another counter-measure is to imbue your children with a general love for learning. If they grow up to value knowledge and enjoy the pursuit of it, they (hopefully) will never settle for simply believing everything they're told.

**Chris** · Mar 2, 2008, 11:35 am

yea. The sad thing is that most parents dont do that. Or they "Dont want no kid of mine being a nerd or a geek! She is going to be a prom queen!"

crap like that.

Tycoon · Mar 2, 2008, 01:15 pm

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She is going to be a prom queen!

There's no reason you can't try to teach your children social skills as well. I guess to an extent, but you definately don't want them to become anti-social.

**Chris** · Mar 2, 2008, 06:27 pm

who said anything about being anti social?

Chaossaber314 · Mar 2, 2008, 07:06 pm

While there are definitely people who do not want to become educated for cultural reasons (and it's a damn tragedy), I think the bigger danger is from those of us who are convinced they're intelligent and know what they're talking about when the opposite is in fact true.

I call it "Peggy Hill" Syndrome.

Similarly, another real threat in this area is people who confuse intelligence with ideology / philosophy. It's these people who are tearing our country apart. It is the very source of punditry.

Milton Bradley · Mar 2, 2008, 08:25 pm

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Similarly, another real threat in this area is people who confuse intelligence with ideology / philosophy. It's these people who are tearing our country apart. It is the very source of punditry.

Yet, can't you be found occupying space in one of those ideological camps?

Compugasm · Mar 2, 2008, 10:34 pm

You won't think we're so stupid, once we succed in blowing up the moon.

Chaossaber314 · Mar 2, 2008, 10:56 pm

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Yet, can't you be found occupying space in one of those ideological camps?

No, considering neither of the dominant parties or ideologies represent my views. You should know better. Furthermore, where have I called someone stupid for believing in conservative or liberal ideals?

**Chris** · Mar 2, 2008, 11:59 pm

Obvious proof of the dumbing of America

Tycoon · Mar 3, 2008, 01:08 am

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Obvious proof of the dumbing of America

Hahaha, nice Chris.

**Jack** · Mar 3, 2008, 01:44 am

I'm going to one-up you, Chris, with this link...Jackass: The Movie (2002)

**Chris** · Mar 3, 2008, 10:44 pm

see your jackass 2 and raise you a jackass 3

Compugasm · Mar 3, 2008, 10:55 pm

Hottie and the Nottie, top that biatch.

Tycoon · Mar 3, 2008, 11:11 pm

Snakes on a Plane (2006)
Topped.

Milton Bradley · Mar 4, 2008, 12:31 am

[quote=Chaossaber314;482825]No, considering neither of the dominant parties or ideologies represent my views.QUOTE]

Wow, I thought they represented your views enough for you to vote for them, and advocate their election.

Silly me.

Compugasm · Mar 4, 2008, 03:37 am

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Topped.

Nope, it got a rating of 6.4 Hottie and the Nottie got 1.8. Try again.

megadeth425 · Mar 4, 2008, 05:56 am

Hardbell, eh?
The end of all hope for humanity and the death of all possible intellect for the next generation of adults

Mar 2, 2008, 11:29 am	#83 (permalink) (top)
Chris Gamma-ray burst Location: Nashville Posts: 6,403	Thats why its important for parents to teach a supplement to a school curriculum. I already have taught my 3 year old daughter about stars and constellations - other suns... She understands. F the public schools, They can teach the back bone but I will provide a supplement. I voted against the theocratic psychopaths Shared

Mar 2, 2008, 11:32 am	#84 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,180	Another counter-measure is to imbue your children with a general love for learning. If they grow up to value knowledge and enjoy the pursuit of it, they (hopefully) will never settle for simply believing everything they're told. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Mar 2, 2008, 11:35 am	#85 (permalink) (top)
Chris Gamma-ray burst Location: Nashville Posts: 6,403	yea. The sad thing is that most parents dont do that. Or they "Dont want no kid of mine being a nerd or a geek! She is going to be a prom queen!" crap like that. I voted against the theocratic psychopaths Shared

Mar 2, 2008, 06:27 pm	#87 (permalink) (top)
Chris Gamma-ray burst Location: Nashville Posts: 6,403	who said anything about being anti social? I voted against the theocratic psychopaths Shared

Mar 2, 2008, 07:06 pm	#88 (permalink) (top)
Chaossaber314 The Cake is a lie... Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,388	While there are definitely people who do not want to become educated for cultural reasons (and it's a damn tragedy), I think the bigger danger is from those of us who are convinced they're intelligent and know what they're talking about when the opposite is in fact true. I call it "Peggy Hill" Syndrome. Similarly, another real threat in this area is people who confuse intelligence with ideology / philosophy. It's these people who are tearing our country apart. It is the very source of punditry. What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

Mar 2, 2008, 10:34 pm	#90 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,889	You won't think we're so stupid, once we succed in blowing up the moon. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh!

Mar 2, 2008, 11:59 pm	#92 (permalink) (top)
Chris Gamma-ray burst Location: Nashville Posts: 6,403	Obvious proof of the dumbing of America I voted against the theocratic psychopaths Shared

Mar 3, 2008, 01:44 am	#94 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,180	I'm going to one-up you, Chris, with this link...Jackass: The Movie (2002) The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Mar 3, 2008, 10:44 pm	#95 (permalink) (top)
Chris Gamma-ray burst Location: Nashville Posts: 6,403	see your jackass 2 and raise you a jackass 3 I voted against the theocratic psychopaths Shared

Mar 3, 2008, 10:55 pm	#96 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,889	Hottie and the Nottie, top that biatch. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh!

Mar 3, 2008, 11:11 pm	#97 (permalink) (top)
Tycoon Queer Location: California Posts: 2,605	Snakes on a Plane (2006) Topped.

Mar 4, 2008, 12:31 am	#98 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320	[quote=Chaossaber314;482825]No, considering neither of the dominant parties or ideologies represent my views.QUOTE] Wow, I thought they represented your views enough for you to vote for them, and advocate their election. Silly me.

Mar 4, 2008, 05:56 am	#100 (permalink) (top)
megadeth425 Air Guitar Hero Location: Canada Posts: 382	Hardbell, eh? The end of all hope for humanity and the death of all possible intellect for the next generation of adults "People always associate long hair with drug use. I wish long hair was associated with something other than drug use, like an extreme longing for cake." ~Mitch Hedberg