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HelioPrime · Feb 16, 2008, 12:00 am

OK. I saw Cowboy Bebop the movie. I kinda want the series now.

So what's the best worthwhile to watch anime series?

So far I place:
-CB
-Akira

Any others. Please copy my list and add or own or change the order!

atheist · Feb 16, 2008, 12:14 am

Definitely Cowboy Bebop.

It's not a series, but the anime movie Paprika is also worth a watch. The ending is insane.

Zhavric · Feb 16, 2008, 07:45 am

Anime isn't as cool as film, but if you're looking for some decent anime...

Series:

Samurai Champloo
Big-O
Outlaw Star
Deathnote
Wolf's Rain
FLCL
Samurai 7
Fullmetal Alchemist

Films:

Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Howl's Moving Castle
Fullmetal Alchemist
Ninja Scroll

gela · Feb 16, 2008, 07:59 am

A few good series:
Code Geass
Darker than black
Melancoly of Haruhi Suzumiya
Ouran School Host Club
Clannad
X

As for movies, you can never ever go wrong with anything by studio ghibli.

phoenix_fire · Feb 16, 2008, 10:05 am

In no particular order:

Code Geass--a mecha about world domination and megalomaniacs

Death Note--a psychological thriller about justice, mercy, crime & punishment, and playing God

Bleach--fighting genre: people taking on evil ghosts with swords and spiritual power

Blood+--a dark vampire fighting show about the true meaning of family

Ouran High School Host Club (gentlemen, take notes)--a hilarious reverse-harem featuring a gender oblivious heroine

Saiunkoku Monogatari--a josei that is full of bishies and romance but still manages to be extremely intelligent

Fullmetal Alchemist--imagine a world where alchemy developed as the major science instead of physics. That world would kick butt. Yeah.

Black Blood Brothers--another vampire anime. You will see a pattern. A little bit cuter than some of the others, but still pretty serious.

Hellsing--kick butt vampire action that pretty much speaks for itself

Howl's Moving Castle (movie)--how to summarize...I'd say just watch it. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

On my radar:
Saiunkoku season II

Geass season II

Vampire Knight--a regular high school romance...if you don't count the fact that the night class is full of vampires

Devil May Cry--the kick butt game promises to become a kick butt anime

I'd recommend most of the other ones that Zhav suggested (one of the few things that we can agree on) except FLCL. I find it extremely annoying. But if you're a hyped up ADHD teenage boy with a sugar high and typical teenage male hormonal urges...you might like it. I'm a laidback twentiesh woman with a disdain for the overuse of phallic imagery, so naturally the series annoys the hell out of me. Ooh...that reminds me of a thread.

Chaossaber314 · Feb 16, 2008, 02:01 pm

Definitely add my support to Hellsing and FMA.

HelioPrime · Feb 16, 2008, 02:46 pm

Hmm thanks for the responses.

I'm borrowing Ghost in the Shell. I guess nobody likes it? It's the stand alone complex one, first series I guess.

I think I'm leaning more to war and technology inspired actions. I don't care as much for the love stories or gender confused ninjas.

grandpa · Feb 16, 2008, 02:47 pm

The only anime film I relaly liked was "Paprika." I did used to watch "Astro Boy" sometimes when I was in grade school (despite the screen name, I'm only 26).

Grandpa h.

Domino · Feb 16, 2008, 03:35 pm

Ghost in the Shell is good stuff. I've enjoyed both movies and the series.

Tycoon · Feb 16, 2008, 03:40 pm

The best anime is no anime.

Maryjane · Feb 16, 2008, 04:45 pm

Zhavric

Quote:

Anime isn't as cool as film, but if you're looking for some decent anime...

Oh god no! Not you too??

Tycoon

Quote:

The best anime is no anime.

YouTube - Foamy- Anime

I guess I just don't get the obsession? It's a cartoon...but then again...I'm a halloween freak.

phoenix_fire · Feb 16, 2008, 11:01 pm

Ooh. I have another.

Trinity Blood--another great vampire series. In the future, the world is split in civil war between humans and vampires, who are incidentally based out of the Rome Vatican and Byzantium, respectively (God help us). Gadgets that we take for granted become "lost technology": vital weapons in the struggle. And mixed up in the whole mess are the Crusniks: four super vampires that feed on the red-shirt vamps. Awesomeness ensues.

gela · Feb 19, 2008, 05:16 am

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Black Blood Brothers--another vampire anime. You will see a pattern. A little bit cuter than some of the others, but still pretty serious.

Never even heard of this one. Whats it like?

I heart vampires ^^

phoenix_fire · Feb 19, 2008, 09:23 am

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Quote by: gela

Never even heard of this one. Whats it like?

I heart vampires ^^

Me too. It's kinda short. The plot is that the main character, who was a hero in an alliance of humans and vampires that defeated a dangerous clan of mutated vampires, is targeted for revenge by the survivors of that clan. He just wants to live quietly with his little brother in the hidden city where vampires and humans coexist.

Morality Games · Feb 19, 2008, 10:00 am

Can never go wrong with existential-psychoanalytic variety.

Neon Genesis Evangelion
The Big O
Serial Experiments Lain

.hack//SIGN looks nice, has great music, and good characterization, but it is handicapped by an excess of dialogue and a defficiency of action.

Mobile Suit Gundam: 8th Mobile Suit Team is probably the finest specimen of that "sub-genre" of mecha since the original series/movies.

Fullmetal Alchemist is one of the better anime, but the manga is much better. Too much better. Fullmetal Alchemist as an anime is too much in its shadow to stand out as one of the best.

As far as movies goes, the End of Evangelion stands as more of a replacement for the final episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion, so it won't be put into the consideration -- pretty much everything Hayao Miyazaki makes is brilliant, but Princess Mononoke is especially so.

Zhavric · Feb 19, 2008, 10:08 am

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Quote by: HelioPrime

Hmm thanks for the responses.

I'm borrowing Ghost in the Shell. I guess nobody likes it? It's the stand alone complex one, first series I guess.

Some anime directors just aren't good storytellers. Ghost in the Shell looks pretty, has a few moments of cool action here and there, but just gets bogged down in monologues and one-sided dialogues. They spend so much time telling and very little time showing.

Suburbanite · Feb 19, 2008, 05:26 pm

i find most anime to be way too child like, even the gross gory stuff is just a middle schoolers wet dream. Akira, however, is a GREAT film. And cowboy Bebop, though the movie is stupid, many of the episodes are great. That aside, you can at best usually only expect good art from an anime because the movies make NO SENSE. "X" being one of them! No sense!

Suburbanite · Feb 19, 2008, 05:28 pm

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Quote by: Zhavric

Some anime directors just aren't good storytellers. Ghost in the Shell looks pretty, has a few moments of cool action here and there, but just gets bogged down in monologues and one-sided dialogues. They spend so much time telling and very little time showing.

yeah is that on he nose dialogue just the only way Japanese people write?

why is it that japanese anime is retarded and japanese film can be overly complex and character driven. Visitor Q, Bird People of China, Ran... good japanese story telling

Tycoon · Feb 19, 2008, 06:20 pm

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Me too. It's kinda short. The plot is that the main character, who was a hero in an alliance of humans and vampires that defeated a dangerous clan of mutated vampires, is targeted for revenge by the survivors of that clan. He just wants to live quietly with his little brother in the hidden city where vampires and humans coexist.

I'm sorry, but I can't help but pick on the stupidity and immaturity of this. First of all, mutated vampires. Like I said, childish cartoons. Second of all, targeted for revenge. Pointless confrontation, especially because he isn't dangerous to them anymore? And third of all the idea of a hidden city where vampires and humans coexist. Vampires suck blood! According to all vampire stories it's like an overwhelming desire! And, assuming humans don't like vampires sucking them dry, the idea of a city where they could coexist is ridiculous.

I'm sorry phoneix, I'm just not seeing it.

phoenix_fire · Feb 19, 2008, 07:26 pm

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Quote by: Tycoon

I'm sorry, but I can't help but pick on the stupidity and immaturity of this. First of all, mutated vampires. Like I said, childish cartoons. Second of all, targeted for revenge. Pointless confrontation, especially because he isn't dangerous to them anymore? And third of all the idea of a hidden city where vampires and humans coexist. Vampires suck blood! According to all vampire stories it's like an overwhelming desire! And, assuming humans don't like vampires sucking them dry, the idea of a city where they could coexist is ridiculous.

I'm sorry phoneix, I'm just not seeing it.

We get it: you don't like anime. Believe it or not, that's not what the thread is about.

And I think you're missing the point here. In vampire media such as this, vampires are not necessarily mind-controlled, blood-sucking, 2-dimensional killing machines. They get a more intelligent and thoughtful treatment. They have consciences, and the protagonist vampire subdues his inner nature in order to save others from harm. This is not exclusive to anime. The Anne Rice novels, for instance, have characters such as these. "Underworld" did too. It is a demonstration that a person cannot be all good or all evil.

Geez. Does anyone else think it's odd that I'm the open-minded one here?

Feb 16, 2008, 12:00 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
HelioPrime Hucking Fuskies Location: Conn Posts: 2,274	Best Anime OK. I saw Cowboy Bebop the movie. I kinda want the series now. So what's the best worthwhile to watch anime series? So far I place: -CB -Akira Any others. Please copy my list and add or own or change the order! What do you say to an atheist who sneezes? Yourdeadthatsit! - Dane Cook

Feb 16, 2008, 12:14 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
atheist life junkie Location: CA Posts: 142	Definitely Cowboy Bebop. It's not a series, but the anime movie Paprika is also worth a watch. The ending is insane. Sin is salvation. Without "sin" there wouldn't be a concept for "purity" and without a concept of "purity" one wouldn't be able to enter "heaven."

Feb 16, 2008, 07:45 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Zhavric SUSPENDED (1 Week) Posts: 3,571	Anime isn't as cool as film, but if you're looking for some decent anime... Series: Samurai Champloo Big-O Outlaw Star Deathnote Wolf's Rain FLCL Samurai 7 Fullmetal Alchemist Films: Princess Mononoke Spirited Away Howl's Moving Castle Fullmetal Alchemist Ninja Scroll

Feb 16, 2008, 10:05 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	In no particular order: Code Geass--a mecha about world domination and megalomaniacs Death Note--a psychological thriller about justice, mercy, crime & punishment, and playing God Bleach--fighting genre: people taking on evil ghosts with swords and spiritual power Blood+--a dark vampire fighting show about the true meaning of family Ouran High School Host Club (gentlemen, take notes)--a hilarious reverse-harem featuring a gender oblivious heroine Saiunkoku Monogatari--a josei that is full of bishies and romance but still manages to be extremely intelligent Fullmetal Alchemist--imagine a world where alchemy developed as the major science instead of physics. That world would kick butt. Yeah. Black Blood Brothers--another vampire anime. You will see a pattern. A little bit cuter than some of the others, but still pretty serious. Hellsing--kick butt vampire action that pretty much speaks for itself Howl's Moving Castle (movie)--how to summarize...I'd say just watch it. I don't think you'll be disappointed. On my radar: Saiunkoku season II Geass season II Vampire Knight--a regular high school romance...if you don't count the fact that the night class is full of vampires Devil May Cry--the kick butt game promises to become a kick butt anime I'd recommend most of the other ones that Zhav suggested (one of the few things that we can agree on) except FLCL. I find it extremely annoying. But if you're a hyped up ADHD teenage boy with a sugar high and typical teenage male hormonal urges...you might like it. I'm a laidback twentiesh woman with a disdain for the overuse of phallic imagery, so naturally the series annoys the hell out of me. Ooh...that reminds me of a thread. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6 Last edited by phoenix_fire; Feb 16, 2008 at 03:29 pm. Reason: detail

Feb 16, 2008, 02:01 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Chaossaber314 The Cake is a lie... Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,284	Definitely add my support to Hellsing and FMA. What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

Feb 16, 2008, 07:59 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
gela Vampire Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 862	A few good series: Code Geass Darker than black Melancoly of Haruhi Suzumiya Ouran School Host Club Clannad X As for movies, you can never ever go wrong with anything by studio ghibli.

Feb 16, 2008, 02:46 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
HelioPrime Hucking Fuskies Location: Conn Posts: 2,274	Hmm thanks for the responses. I'm borrowing Ghost in the Shell. I guess nobody likes it? It's the stand alone complex one, first series I guess. I think I'm leaning more to war and technology inspired actions. I don't care as much for the love stories or gender confused ninjas. What do you say to an atheist who sneezes? Yourdeadthatsit! - Dane Cook

Feb 16, 2008, 02:47 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
grandpa blasphemer Location: Michigan Posts: 7,356	The only anime film I relaly liked was "Paprika." I did used to watch "Astro Boy" sometimes when I was in grade school (despite the screen name, I'm only 26). Grandpa h. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -Ambrose Bierce

Feb 16, 2008, 03:35 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
Domino I'm a pushover Posts: 344	Ghost in the Shell is good stuff. I've enjoyed both movies and the series. kill President attack nuclear bomb smuggle Echelon just recorded this message.

Feb 16, 2008, 03:40 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Tycoon Tired Location: California Posts: 1,710	The best anime is no anime.

Feb 16, 2008, 11:01 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	Ooh. I have another. Trinity Blood--another great vampire series. In the future, the world is split in civil war between humans and vampires, who are incidentally based out of the Rome Vatican and Byzantium, respectively (God help us). Gadgets that we take for granted become "lost technology": vital weapons in the struggle. And mixed up in the whole mess are the Crusniks: four super vampires that feed on the red-shirt vamps. Awesomeness ensues. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

Feb 19, 2008, 10:00 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
Morality Games Igneous Magma Location: Iowa Posts: 748	Can never go wrong with existential-psychoanalytic variety. Neon Genesis Evangelion The Big O Serial Experiments Lain .hack//SIGN looks nice, has great music, and good characterization, but it is handicapped by an excess of dialogue and a defficiency of action. Mobile Suit Gundam: 8th Mobile Suit Team is probably the finest specimen of that "sub-genre" of mecha since the original series/movies. Fullmetal Alchemist is one of the better anime, but the manga is much better. Too much better. Fullmetal Alchemist as an anime is too much in its shadow to stand out as one of the best. As far as movies goes, the End of Evangelion stands as more of a replacement for the final episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion, so it won't be put into the consideration -- pretty much everything Hayao Miyazaki makes is brilliant, but Princess Mononoke is especially so. A moral being is an entity for whom the disadvantage of others is an issue. – K.H.Y.

Feb 19, 2008, 05:26 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	i find most anime to be way too child like, even the gross gory stuff is just a middle schoolers wet dream. Akira, however, is a GREAT film. And cowboy Bebop, though the movie is stupid, many of the episodes are great. That aside, you can at best usually only expect good art from an anime because the movies make NO SENSE. "X" being one of them! No sense!