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Old Jan 20, 2008, 12:16 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Dreams

I was skimming through threads on a different debate forum and saw an interesting discussion on dreams.

In particular "lucid dreams" or dreams where you can control what you do.

I'd like to hear what you think about the subject, particularly if you've been able to control your dreams.
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Old Jan 20, 2008, 10:19 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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I'm practicing meditation, so I can control my dreams at will. If I want a stripping girl to pop up, well I don't have to ask twice.


I think, I'm free.
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Old Jan 20, 2008, 10:52 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Mine are semi-lucid, if theres such a thing. I know that I'm dreaming, and I can guide it in a general direction, but eventually I lose total control. I don't meditate or anything.


I know your type. You think, "I'll just get me a costume, rip off the neighborhood kids." Next thing you know, you've got a jet shaped like a skull with lasers on the front!
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Old Jan 20, 2008, 11:34 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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My dreams have always been lucid.

One time I had the same dream twice - that my family and I went to the top of a really tall skyscraper and out onto this balcony at the top. The entire balcony breaks off and we're falling.

The next time I had that dream I knew we were gonna fall - so I stopped my parents and brother from getting on.


But what nerdvincent is talking about is something different. I don't remember what it's called.
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Old Jan 20, 2008, 11:44 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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There are alot of times where I'll wake up from a dream, and if I don't like the way its going I just tweak the scenario in my mind and try to go back to sleep, and most times it picks back up where it left off, with the tweak. I think that alot of my dreams are good ideas for movies, but I can never seem to remember enough of them.


I know your type. You think, "I'll just get me a costume, rip off the neighborhood kids." Next thing you know, you've got a jet shaped like a skull with lasers on the front!
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Old Jan 20, 2008, 12:01 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Most of the time I can't control my dreams when I just go to sleep. I have died in more then one dream, but haven't woken up.

However I have been practicing meditation and I am able to create a dream like state in my mind that I can totally control. The dreams that I have at night don't feel as real to me as the ones that I can create by meditation.


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Old Jan 20, 2008, 02:33 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Almost all of my dreams I have partial or total control - except for the worst ones. Two in particular.


The first one I had a long time ago.. everything was black and the sky was red, there were tall black cliffs and lava all around me, and dark shadows with red eyes. I woke up and could only remember about three seconds of it.

The second one I was hiding with all these other guys behind desks, and we all had guns. Somehow I knew something bad was coming - then a dragon ripped one of the walls of the room out. One of the guys ran by my desk shooting then dived behind another one. The dragon snaked it's neck in...
I felt a sharp pain and a tug - I looked down and my arm was off, blood everywhere. Then I woke up.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 09:29 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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I dream a lot but I can only remember one dream where I was aware of the fact that I was dreaming. As I remember it, I was climbing the tower in my university because the only way in was from the top of the tower. The door at the top was locked, so I squeezed through the keyhole. Immediately after doing that I remember thinking "Wait, this is just bloody ridiculous", then realising that I must be dreaming.

I don't recall being able to control the dream or indeed anything that happened after that, but it was definitely a strange feeling.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 12:12 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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That's a weird dream.

I've had dreams where I can fly. The best thing was, I was under total control. I would run up a short incline and then jump at the top and fly away.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 01:13 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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One of the only dreams I can remember having total control over was one where I was flying AND...the coolest part, I had some Dragonball Z(Yes its laughable) powers.
That may seem immature, but I kicked some arse.

Oh and not to stray to far from the original post but is there anyone that may have some links to Meditation practices and strategies. You don't need to post them here, just send me a PM.


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Old Jan 21, 2008, 01:55 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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i started meditating a few months ago and since then i have remembered every single dream i've had. and recently i have begun to have a little control over what happens in them, but it is pretty limited.... i just think it is so cool that i remember all of them so well!!!!


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Old Jan 21, 2008, 02:04 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think I ever forgot any of my dreams. But then, if I had, I might not remember would I?
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 02:16 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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lol, well, i hate that feeling of knowing i dreamed something but not being able to remember what it was....

its fun to write dreams down, then look back on them years later.


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Old Jan 23, 2008, 03:18 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Three stages...Waking, Dream and Death...you just One !!!

I have, in the past, written lot about dreams. Some, I would repeat in this thread:

1. I think my existence as something imaginary as I with a mechanism of memory / forgetfulness in physical brain and non-physical mind. Further, I exist always in infinite Presents eternally.

2. In view of 1, I do not consider much difference in my existence in waking, dream or even after death....as far as my feeling of existence as I is concerned. This I have logically deduced, when I have listened to people from childhood telling His body, his head, his brain, his mind.....he died, may his soul rest in peace; cofriming to me HE is something beyond that all these items mentioned.

3. The way we act in waking stage, we do exactly act in the dream stage. The way we sometimes lose control in waking stage, we do lose control in dream as well. Otherwise, mostly we are in full comand in the dream as we are in waking stage.

4. As regards remembering or not remembering of the dream, even this aspect is similar to waking stage and is attributted to the attention you pay or devote to the situation.

5. In all most all cases, one can never have extra-sense in dream. This, I have confirmed with few blind, deaf & dumb and lame persons, who all told me they dream and act exactly in same manner as they act in waking stage. For example, one blind told me he walks in the dream with a stick only and needs help to cross a road in dream as well.

6. Dreams are mainly two types. One general dreams having no much significances, the way we live casually in waking stage in most of the life. Second is meaningful dreams where in you pay lot of attention by physical mind or sub-conscious mind. In latter case you get more prominant and clear dreams. Sometimes, you even go to advance in time and even watch some scenes which occur much later in actual waking. Such can be termed as revealing dreams.

7. The main difference between waking and dream is that in former stage, you are existing with physical body but, in latter you move about with meta-physical body.

8. You can remember dream after coming to waking stage. You can also remember waking stage in the dream stage. That is how and why you could recollect various things, persons etc in the dream. That knowledge goes from waking stage to dream stage only.

9. Concluding death is a peculiar dream, which does not allow one to wake up in the existing body. Nature has kept it with itself.

10. But, I believe we move about exactly even then as we move in dreams. My Father on his 18th day of death revealed this to me in a very clear and prominant dream. I would disclose that we had whole conversation through mind only. There was no need of opening mouth. ????

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Old Jan 23, 2008, 03:24 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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I understood number three the best, and number five I find most interesting... I'd put more thought into it but I have finals tomorrow to study for.
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 04:44 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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So this is what I am stressing upon, the word ATTENTION.

My good wishes for your finals. I like your bent of mind to words the reality of situation at young which of course does not matter.
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Old Mar 24, 2008, 08:29 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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I'd like to hear what you think about the subject, particularly if you've been able to control your dreams.
I just had a good one, a message from beyond the grave... wwoooowwwoooeeee!. I was listening to MP3's, and Pantera came on. I dreamed they were playing a late-night show inside a local Dunkin Donuts. The crowd stood in the parking lot. I floated in to the concert from high above, riding in the comfort of my bed. I came to rest at the store window.

All I could really see was Diamond Darrell, the guitar player. He was in a window display, like where maniquins stand. He was lighted by a strobelight effect, with a red wall behind him. He looked like this Rob Zombie photo:


Everyone was moshing around me. Gradually, the crowd disbursed and I was the only person left. I noticed that no one had spilled anything, sat down, or even touched the bedspread. Which was good, because I don't like people disturbing my comfort zone. So the show ended, and Darrell opens the front door and comes out into the empty parking lot.

We had a conversation, that isn't easy to do, when the other person doesn't have any eyes. He started bitching about the record label screwing them over because they were playing to an empty parking lot. He couldn't find the rest of the band. He showed me a guitar pick with the number 15 on it. The freaky thing, is I sounded like a parent on a charlie brown cartoon, but I could hear him just fine. Usually it's the other way around.

So, there you go. I see dead people.


I'd like to thank Charlie Hodge, bringing me scarves and water.
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Old Mar 24, 2008, 06:06 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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I was skimming through threads on a different debate forum and saw an interesting discussion on dreams.

In particular "lucid dreams" or dreams where you can control what you do.

I'd like to hear what you think about the subject, particularly if you've been able to control your dreams.
I've had two lucid dreams where I realized I was dreaming and was able to take complete control and create new objects and environments.

I've also had one dream where I was kidnapped and tied to a bed and when I "woke up" I was kidnapped and tied to a bed. When I woke up from waking up I was pretty freaked out about that one. The first "wake up" felt completely real.

I bought this kit last year but haven't gotten around to soldering it together yet. The LEDs supposedly will start cueing you after roughly a couple hours of sleep. The theory is that you will see a flash in your dream and that will help you realize you are dreaming so you can assume control.

cre.ations.net - Creation: Face-mounted Lucid Dreaming Mask

I also wrote a short story about a guy that builds a lucid dream machine because he wants to see if he can stop time in his dream. He does, which puts his real world body in a coma. He creates a dream world that is indistinguishable from the real world and finds he is bored with it so, in the dream world, he builds a lucid dream machine so he can stop time in his dream's dream, which puts his dream self in a coma while he constructs a new dream world in his dream world.

One thing I discovered while experimenting with dreams last years is that taking 60MG of Ginko Biloba twice a day has drastically increased the quantity, quality, and lucidity of my dream life. I haven't had one that I took full control of in many years but I have very lucid, non-control, dreams every single night since I have been taking Ginko Biloba. This is great for us writers since the dreams supply a constant source of new material.

Happy dreaming!
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Old Mar 24, 2008, 06:48 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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I used to be able to wake myself up from particularly bad dreams. Most of these used to involve being chased by snakes. Eventually, however, I began to fight back. I started killing the snakes. And now my subconscious finds no particular reason to wake me any more. Dreams that used to be frightening are now enjoyable.

Interestingly, I fly in every single one of my dreams, no matter what else it's about. It's like flight is a permanent and integral part of my subconscious.



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Old Mar 25, 2008, 08:59 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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I used to be able to wake myself up from
particularly bad dreams.
Most of these used to involve being chased by snakes.
I used to dream about little crocodillians chasing me around, and sometimes sharks. Tornados also pop up occasionally. I used to be able to re-enter a dream after I woke up, but now I rarely remember dreams. I'll have a memorable one occasionally, but another might not come for a few months.

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