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Old Jan 4, 2008, 02:21 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Women and gay men are 'worst drivers'

Women and gay men are 'worst drivers' - Telegraph

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Women and gay men are likely to be the worst drivers, a new study has shown.

Be afraid: Women or gay men could be behind the wheel of any car
Research has revealed that both perform poorly in tasks involving navigation and spatial awareness when compared to heterosexual men.

Psychologists at Queen Mary, University of London, who conducted the study, believe the findings mean driving in a strange environment would be more difficult for gay men and women than for straight male motorists.

Both tend to rely on local landmarks to get around, and are also slower to take in spatial information.
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Old Jan 5, 2008, 08:43 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah, well, so what? The Telegraph article considers one eensy-weensy part of what makes a good driver. But it fails (for example) to consider the testosterone-soaked frenzy so many male drivers lapse into at the slightest provocation (or perceived provocation).

When women started qualifying to become airline pilots, the companies did some pretty serious research in this realm. They discovered that while the average man has slightly better hand-eye coordination (doubtless an evolutionary trait of our role as hunters) women are less likey to panic in an emergency.

I'd rather ride as a passenger in a car driven by a woman. They're much more level-headed.


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Old Jan 5, 2008, 10:06 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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I'd rather ride as a passenger in a car driven by a woman.
Just don't ride in a car driven by a woman with a gay male passenger. You'll never get a word in edgewise.

I agree, Nono. In my experience, the vast majority of reckless drivers, those who race other drivers and those who attempt to evade a car stop by fleeing at high speed have been males (I presume straight since that's not information pertinent to their eventual arrest.)


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Old Jan 5, 2008, 11:33 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Odd. I always see guys pulled over. I guess their all queer....

Could be just my opinion but I think all those soccer mom's are alot safer than guys making up for small peens with V8 Vette's and other large cars.


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Old Jan 5, 2008, 12:13 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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From my experience woman are the more cautious, but not the best of drivers. Perhaps they are perfect for small country roads, but in New York, their constant stopping at intersections with no red lights or stop signs, slow driving, and insistence on putting on make up while on the road results in a lot of accidents, perhaps not for them but for the person who had to swerve to not hit her, and the other guy the first guy hit. Caution is good, but like everything else, only in moderation.
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Old Jan 5, 2008, 12:25 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Good driver = spatial awareness?

If men are the better drivers, explain why their insurance rates are higher?


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Old Jan 8, 2008, 07:43 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Good driver = spatial awareness?

If men are the better drivers, explain why their insurance rates are higher?
Men tend to cause more damage in their incidents than women, but have fewer of them. Or so I've been led to believe.

It's not simply men who get into frenzy's behind the wheel of the car. I've been driven around by numerous women who get road rage and competative when driving. The men who've driven me around who get worked up at least have good technique.


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Old Jan 9, 2008, 03:00 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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From my experience woman are the more cautious, but not the best of drivers. Perhaps they are perfect for small country roads, but in New York, their constant stopping at intersections with no red lights or stop signs, slow driving, and insistence on putting on make up while on the road results in a lot of accidents, perhaps not for them but for the person who had to swerve to not hit her, and the other guy the first guy hit. Caution is good, but like everything else, only in moderation.
Generalisations like that are sexist.

I know men who are way more cautious then I am on the road.

Unless you have some statistics or evidence to back it up; don't assume it.
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Old Jan 9, 2008, 05:23 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Women and gay men are 'worst drivers' - Telegraph
Someone actually got paid to do this study? Every day for months, a team of researchers compiled data, analyzed it, and drew conclusions from their wasted toiling. Q: What job could possibly be more soul crushing? A: The person who had to write the article, about the most banal study ever.

The very idea of gay men and women behind the wheel of a car is preposterous! In fact, I think read somewhere, there is a fabulous set of jeans that prevent women and gay men from having the proper upper body strength to turn the steering wheel to begin with. They couldn't even co-ordinate a proper pants-suit, let alone realize the sun sets in the west.


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Old Jan 9, 2008, 07:22 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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They discovered that while the average man has slightly better hand-eye coordination (doubtless an evolutionary trait of our role as hunters) women are less likey to panic in an emergency.
My personal life experience says otherwise. Can't count the number of times I've had to say "Calm down" to some woman.

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If men are the better drivers, explain why their insurance rates are higher?
Men drive aggressively, on purpose. Women cause accidents......by accident. Also, men have more money. It is simply a good business move. Insurance companies find every reason they can dig up to over charge their customers.

Women try to multi-task while they drive and their minds can't handle the added strain of a cellphone conversation. Look, 9 times outta 10 I can tell if the idiot who just screwed up in front of me is a male or a female. If the car pulls out in front of me, squealing its tires, then it is likely a man. If the car pulls out in front of me, even though there are no cars behind me, and begins driving 3 MPH under the speed limit, then the driver is female (and on the god damn phone).


The worst thing about stereotypes is that often they are true. Asians, blacks and women cannot aggressively drive a vehicle with skill. Sorry, the truth hurts.
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Old Jan 9, 2008, 07:34 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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The worst thing about stereotypes is that often they are true. Asians, blacks and women cannot aggressively drive a vehicle with skill. Sorry, the truth hurts.
Untill you back up your claims with some actual evidence, you are a sexist, and racist pig in my eyes.

There is no study out there that can prove that every Asian, Black and Woman cannot agressively drive a vehicle.
sorry, that makes you and ignorant arse. The truth hurts.
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Old Jan 9, 2008, 07:45 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Untill you back up your claims with some actual evidence, you are a sexist, and racist pig in my eyes.

There is no study out there that can prove that every Asian, Black and Woman cannot agressively drive a vehicle.
sorry, that makes you and ignorant arse. The truth hurts.
Jebus Cripes, calm down. Does the opinion of a random stranger always get you so mad?

Of course my opinions are based on anecdotal observation. The OP of this thread asked for opinions, not scientific evidence. So climb down off of your politically correct soap box and be for real for a few minutes, aye?

According to my personal experience and observation, yes, indeed women are far more careless drivers than are men. As for fags.........dunno. Can't really speak to that or see cause for that.
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Old Jan 9, 2008, 07:58 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Jebus Cripes, calm down. Does the opinion of a random stranger always get you so mad?

Of course my opinions are based on anecdotal observation. The OP of this thread asked for opinions, not scientific evidence. So climb down off of your politically correct soap box and be for real for a few minutes, aye?

According to my personal experience and observation, yes, indeed women are far more careless drivers than are men. As for fags.........dunno. Can't really speak to that or see cause for that.
Don't worry, I am calm. Your mistaking my Bitchy tone, as an angry tone.
I see people like you everyday; im beyond getting worked up over it. I just wanted to make it clear that what your saying is very wrong.

See, if you had said "According to my personal experience" in your first post, then I would have no problem. I would dismiss you as a simple idiot.

The problem is when you talk like your opinion is fact. It gives the impression that what your saying is infact true.

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Old Jan 9, 2008, 08:31 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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However, I have no experience to be able to say whether gays are bad drivers or not. However, women are far better drivers then men, just because they arn't as agressive as the opposite sex are by nature. You rarely see women pulled over for speeding. In addition, statistics show that men cause more accidents then women and most of the accidents caused by men result in some sort of injury.


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Old Jan 9, 2008, 08:36 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Don't worry, I am calm.
I see people like you everyday; im beyond getting worked up over it. I just wanted to make it clear that what your saying is very wrong.

See, if you had said "According to my personal experience" in your first post, then I would have no problem. I would dismiss you as a simple idiot.

The problem is when you talk like your opinion is fact. It gives the impression that what your saying is infact true.
I started my post with the words "My personal life experience says otherwise."

You, being so "calm" and "impartial", have called me names several times now.

You remind me of the type of person that always goes PC. If we were discussing why men are bad drivers, then I bet you would be all for that. But since I spoke ill of minority groupings, well let the attack on reason begin.

Women can't f*cking drive. They have too many other things on their mind. Studies show that women are always thinking, constantly, often about multiple issues at once. This is what makes them so poor at driving.

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We all know it. Admit it. Women cannot drive because they are to preoccupied and they never shut up or cease to mull sh*t over in their pretty little minds.
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Old Jan 9, 2008, 10:08 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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And men don't think? Ever? Perfect little driver drones, then? You said it, not me.

It has been my experience that men seem to think they have better spatial orientation, but they'll easily start heading south in an unfamiliar city and swear they're heading north. And on top of that, they won't ask directions or even ask the person sitting next to them in the car with a map. I was once in a car with a man who took us on a 3 hour trip looking for a highway that was 1 block away from our starting point. I exaggerate not.

Men's insurance rates are higher because they are worse drivers, not because they have deep pockets. Sexist and homophobic "studies" come out like this all the time and people no more than look at a headline before making wild proclamations. Reading into it, the study was confined to 140 people of assumedly British citizenship. 140 is a pretty small sample size. That's 35 of each gender/orientation set, if they split it evenly. It is also not a very good indicator on how people in other cultures and experiences would perform. I would think that someone from D.C. would probably drive much differently from a Londoner, for example. Depending upon our experience, we have honed or neglected different driving-relevant skills.



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Old Jan 9, 2008, 10:40 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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And men don't think? Ever? Perfect little driver drones, then? You said it, not me.
Hey, I'm impartial. Men can be cast in a very bad light. In relative comparison, stating that a women is a poor driver is far less ugly than what could be said of men.

I think it is safe to say that men don't "think" as much as women. This is why men are far more likely to commit crimes. They don't think. This is why men are far more likely to race the guy next to them. Because they don't think.

Women, now they will be thinking about their husband/boyfriend, their bills, housework, children and a litany of other things, almost simultaneously.

By far, the most dangerous drivers are young males, 16-24. The statistics support this.

What I am questioning in this thread is what we mean by "bad drivers". What I am using this terminology to mean is the measuring of actual skill in operating a motor vehicle. My experience and observation over the years leads me to be forced to say it, women can't drive for sh*t. This is a compilation of observation of my mother, ex-girlfriends, ex-wife, friends wives/girlfriends,, and many other females I have witnessed on the road.

I do find it interesting that if I support this thinking, than I am obviously a sexist pig. One fact remains, one of the two genders must be worse than the other at driving, when measured on an overall scale. So to point toward a women, I must be sexist, right? There is no way a person can have this opinion without them being sexist, right?

C'mon people. Sometimes things are what they are, and the denial of such only belittles your own understanding of reality.

The worst thing about stereotypes is that they are most often true.

Lets go a little deeper, shall we?

This is a perfect example of the double standard I am speaking toward. That is, why do we, as a society, disallow women and minorities to be subject to the same honest retrospect as a white man can be?

This is a popular commercial that did draw some very limited ire on American television;

Trojan Evolve

NOW......imagine a similar commercial depicting women driving into light poles and such, with the same overt references to gender based stereotypes as this commercial does? The f*cking thing would NEVER see air time, EVER NEVER NO F*CKING WAY, would it ever be on the air. EVER. No way.

The grimacing reality of that Trojan condom commercial is this; For the most part, its true. Young men are pigs. Especially in the setting of a singles bar. They are pigs. Most men are filthy, sex crazed pigs. Pigs that can out drive a women with their off hand and one eye shut, but pigs nonetheless.
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Old Jan 9, 2008, 10:45 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Oh oh oh.........one more question for you Phoenix;

Why am I a sexist for saying women are poor drivers but you are not for saying that men are poor drivers? Under your purview, aren't we both being sexist?
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Old Jan 9, 2008, 11:52 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Also, men have more money. It is simply a good business move. Insurance companies find every reason they can dig up to over charge their customers.
Your insurace rates are directly related to your credit history.

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Women, now they will be thinking about their husband/boyfriend, their bills, housework, children and a litany of other things, almost simultaneously.
Heh..you tickle me.


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Old Jan 9, 2008, 12:15 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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The worst thing about stereotypes is that often they are true. Asians, blacks and women cannot aggressively drive a vehicle with skill. Sorry, the truth hurts.
Toss Hindus in their also. Also taxi and limo drivers on the highway. I will also toss in old people and people that drive minivans. Also construction workers that drive pickup trucks, they are always driving slow on the road yacking away on the phone. Also toss in Mexicans (especially the illegal one), you know most don't have in insurance are afraid of getting into a costly accident!
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