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Old Dec 4, 2007, 07:48 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Huckabee you ignorant slut.

No, this is not a thread criticizing Gov. Huckabee for saying he doesn't believe the theory of evolution. Or that he claims to talk to God on his cellphone. You will have to make up your own minds on those issues.

But now he says that "According to the law of aeronautics and the wingspan and circumference of the bumblebee, it is aeronautically impossible for the bumblebee to fly."

No scientist ever said that ignorant nonsense, and no 'law of aeronautics' or law of physics ever proved "It is aeronautically impossible for the bumblebee to fly."

Anyone who believes or repeats such nonsense without bothering to check their facts should never be allowed to be anywhere near nuclear weapons.


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Old Dec 4, 2007, 07:55 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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What does he think lifts the Bee? Magic? Satan? Gnomes?


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Old Dec 4, 2007, 08:14 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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No, this is not a thread criticizing Gov. Huckabee for saying he doesn't believe the theory of evolution. Or that he claims to talk to God on his cellphone. You will have to make up your own minds on those issues.

But now he says that "According to the law of aeronautics and the wingspan and circumference of the bumblebee, it is aeronautically impossible for the bumblebee to fly."

No scientist ever said that ignorant nonsense, and no 'law of aeronautics' or law of physics ever proved "It is aeronautically impossible for the bumblebee to fly."

Anyone who believes or repeats such nonsense without bothering to check their facts should never be allowed to be anywhere near nuclear weapons.
What a garbage post. Huckabee didn't make any serious claim that bumblebees can't fly.

"As to the Huckabee/bumblebee comparison, he noted the old saw that if one considers the size, shape and “aeronautical design’ of the insect, “it’s scientifically impossible for the bumblebee to fly. But the bumblebee, being unaware of these scientific facts, flies anyway.” Similarly, the former governor said, he has proven himself politically airworthy."
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Old Dec 4, 2007, 09:44 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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What a garbage post. Huckabee didn't make any serious claim that bumblebees can't fly.
Here is the exact quote from Gov. Huckabee, in context: "It's said that, according to the law of aeronautics and the wingspan and circumference of the bumblebee, it is aeronautically impossible for the bumblebee to fly,"

Honestly Zeebadee, do you really want a moron like this in charge of America's nuclear bombs???


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Old Dec 4, 2007, 11:24 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Old Dec 5, 2007, 03:31 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Gomer Pile is better than Hillary


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Old Dec 5, 2007, 04:29 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Here is the exact quote from Gov. Huckabee, in context: "It's said that, according to the law of aeronautics and the wingspan and circumference of the bumblebee, it is aeronautically impossible for the bumblebee to fly,"

Honestly Zeebadee, do you really want a moron like this in charge of America's nuclear bombs???
Well, here's an explanation that is geared toward children: The aerodynamics of bees - ask expert Dr. Galapagos

Here's another source, with information taken from training manuals used in the American Navy: Laws of Aerodynamics- all 3 of them! - WattFlyer RC Electric Flight Forums - Discuss radio control eflight

Here's something from NASA: Newton's Laws of Motion

Now, whether the physiological make-up of the bumblebee is suited to aerodynamics may be subject to debate but Huckabee did have at least some remote concept of what he was referring to.


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Old Dec 5, 2007, 07:31 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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So can they fly or not? Why can't they just answer the friggin question?


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Old Dec 5, 2007, 07:55 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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yes they can fly they fly all the time
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Old Dec 5, 2007, 07:58 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Thanks that clears it up.


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Old Dec 5, 2007, 09:48 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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If Huckabee's elected, he'll require all bumblebees to cease flying so as to be in accordance with the science he understands. They'll have to walk from then on.


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Old Dec 6, 2007, 12:28 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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The saying about the bumblebee is an old tale that no one has ever put real credence to, similar to red sky at morning, sailors take warning, red sky at night, sailors delight. Huckabee was merely making a reference to his campaign defying the so-called laws of politics by making a comeback when conventional election wisdom labeled his campaign dead. Those unable to understand the difference between a literal interpretation of what he said and his application of a figure of speech are the real ignorant sluts.


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Old Dec 6, 2007, 12:34 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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And this guy is leading the republican polls?!? Good Freaking lord!


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Old Dec 6, 2007, 12:42 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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And this guy is leading the republican polls?!? Good Freaking lord!
Well, I can't disagree with you there. However is any one of them better than any other?


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Old Dec 6, 2007, 12:53 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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not sure about that. We can survive through a Hillary term because there'll be just enough opposition to allow the citizens to control her agenda through the legislature and public opinion.

If Huckabee gets elected we've expanded these extremist's "mandate". Make no mistake, the reason he sort of leads in the polls indicates his function. It's early. He'll be put under the scope for a minute while the public tries to confirm this likely fabricated or poorly generated poll result. Time is bought and just as they say, it means nothing. It's likely just to take some heat off the main man Rudi for a sec. The major media sources are calling the latest straw poll meaningless. They know this because Ron Paul is the next president.

Besides, If we republicans nominate Huckabee, we've handed the election to Hillary most likely. Actually that statement applies to every republican candidate except Ron Paul
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Old Dec 6, 2007, 12:57 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Huckabee's grasp of biology doesn't really concern me, though it is great fodder for poking fun at him. What does worry me is his belief that the federal government is free to usurp state's rights just because he personally thinks it should. I'm more concerned with his ignorance of the Constitution than I am his ignorance of science.


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Old Dec 6, 2007, 07:45 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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The saying about the bumblebee is an old tale that no one has ever put real credence to, similar to red sky at morning, sailors take warning, red sky at night, sailors delight.
Actually, some people have put real credence in the bumble bee story. But there never was an actual scientific study that showed that. On the other hand, there is real observational evidence that the sailors maxim has some validity.
[quote]Huckabee was merely making a reference to his campaign defying the so-called laws of politics by making a comeback when conventional election wisdom labeled his campaign dead.[quote]Well, good. Then let's hope that his campaign is just a matter of careless calculation, just like the bumble bee story. When bumble bees were actually studied according to the laws of aerodynamics, it was found that they always could fly.
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Those unable to understand the difference between a literal interpretation of what he said and his application of a figure of speech are the real ignorant sluts.
But the analogy is screwed. It was a silly wives tale that a bumble bee couldn't fly and working harder by the bee didn't have anything to do with it. Huckabee, on the other hand, until he began playing the scientific ignorance and religion cards was losing.

By the way, Wikipedia says, "The method assumes small amplitude oscillations without flow separation. This ignores the effect of dynamic stall, an airflow separation inducing a large vortex above the wing, which briefly produces several times the lift of the aerofoil in regular flight. More sophisticated aerodynamic analysis shows that the bumblebee can fly because its wings encounter dynamic stall in every oscillation cycle."


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