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ruksak · Dec 2, 2007, 03:43 pm

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One -- my tongue

That will come in handy for saying things like "Please don't kill me".

**Jack** · Dec 2, 2007, 03:50 pm

And, "Hey, behind you!" Then, as my advisers in the art of self-defense (Monty Python) would say, "Run away..."

ruksak · Dec 2, 2007, 03:53 pm

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And, "Hey, behind you!" Then, as my advisers in the art of self-defense (Monty Python) would say, "Run away..."

"Oh my god, is that Barry Manilow".

*yoink!

phoenix_fire · Dec 2, 2007, 06:23 pm

I want them to bring swords back.

**Jack** · Dec 2, 2007, 06:32 pm

Sean Taylor depended on a machete, a form of sword or knife. It didn't work too well against a firearm.

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He said Taylor grabbed a machete he keeps in the bedroom for protection. Someone then broke through the bedroom door and fired two shots, one missing and one hitting Taylor

Osborn F Enready · Dec 2, 2007, 06:34 pm

There are lots of nice swords out there Phoenix.

Battle Ready Swords -Functional Swords - MWArt.com

Reliks Functional Swords Medieval Weapons Armour Daggers and Japanese Swords

Functional Swords

But I don't think that is what you meant.

I think the days of the sword are gone for a long, long time.

ruksak · Dec 2, 2007, 06:36 pm

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Sean Taylor depended on a machete, a form of sword or knife. It didn't work too well against a firearm.

Indiana Jones : Sword vs. Gun

phoenix_fire · Dec 2, 2007, 06:37 pm

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There are lots of nice swords out there Phoenix.

Battle Ready Swords -Functional Swords - MWArt.com

Reliks Functional Swords Medieval Weapons Armour Daggers and Japanese Swords

Functional Swords

But I don't think that is what you meant.

I think the days of the sword are gone for a long, long time.

You're right.

Keith Hamburger · Dec 2, 2007, 06:43 pm

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There are lots of nice swords out there Phoenix.

Battle Ready Swords -Functional Swords - MWArt.com

Reliks Functional Swords Medieval Weapons Armour Daggers and Japanese Swords

Functional Swords

But I don't think that is what you meant.

I think the days of the sword are gone for a long, long time.

Unless you were to get good enough with your lightsaber to be able to block bullets (and lasers).

Keith

phoenix_fire · Dec 2, 2007, 06:59 pm

If your sword is large enough, it could block bullets.

Athena · Dec 3, 2007, 01:56 am

I used to have a pretty sharp tongue, but hopefully have mellowed.

The Decider · Dec 3, 2007, 02:12 am

Aside from my snarling poodle, I own no weapons.

Winter wind · Dec 3, 2007, 04:14 am

My theory of self-defense has a lot to do with running as fast as possible.

ZNFYRH · Dec 3, 2007, 08:17 am

After nearly 30 years of practice and training, I don't own any guns.

At all times on my person I have at least one concealed blade of a fiber-composite material that does not set off metal detectors.

I have a few Japanese wooden swords that will break bone but not slice through skin... at least not intentionally.

And I have what effectively amounts to throwable scalpels. I can hold them concealed or throw with eyeball accuracy at 30 feet.

All of my "pokey things" are kept in a place that only a 6 foot tall person an reach, and the wooden swords are kept out. My children and my wife are also learning basic strikes with them and how to hit correctly for a bone-break.

With the way my daughter fights, she's a weapon in her own right.

Makes a papa proud.

Praxius · Dec 3, 2007, 08:34 am

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Sean Taylor depended on a machete, a form of sword or knife. It didn't work too well against a firearm.

Which is why if you're gonna own a blade for defense, then learn how to throw it accuratly at close range. You can draw and throw a blade faster then you can draw and fire a gun.

I have a plithora of information and web links to basic combat survival knife fighting if anybody is interested.

Granted, you do sometimes have a better chance of survival if you are gun vs. gun, or blade vs. none, but there are various methods of taking someone out who has a firearm at close/medium distances with a knife or short blade, and there's no bullets, so it's cost effective as well.

Oh and when it comes to knife vs. knife, it's not like the movies.... whether you win or loose, expect to get sliced up a bit.

Praxius · Dec 3, 2007, 08:36 am

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All of my "pokey things" are kept in a place that only a 6 foot tall person an reach, and the wooden swords are kept out.

So me being 6'6 they'd be at eye level for me

ruksak · Dec 3, 2007, 09:05 am

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Which is why if you're gonna own a blade for defense, then learn how to throw it accuratly at close range. You can draw and throw a blade faster then you can draw and fire a gun.

Unlike in the Hollywood movies, people do not drop dead as soon as the knife hits them. Extraordinary luck would be involved for the injury to be sufficient to do anything more than provide them a flesh wound.

My .45 CAL Glock however, will knock your ass down sideways in an epic bloody show, even if I hit you in the arm. If I hit center mass, as I practice doing often, you will be well on your way to your maker before your knife wielding ass even hits the ground.

Nono · Dec 3, 2007, 10:03 am

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That will come in handy for saying things like "Please don't kill me".

Thing is, ruk, I don't live in The Jungle.

Winter wind · Dec 3, 2007, 10:04 am

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Unlike in the Hollywood movies, people do not drop dead as soon as the knife hits them. Extraordinary luck would be involved for the injury to be sufficient to do anything more than provide them a flesh wound.

Organ damage at 1-2 inches in the chest area. Lungs destroys breathing. Heart...well. Stomach is slow, but leaks acid into chest cavity. Liver poisons system. internal bleeding into chest cavity. Neck or wrists makes for loss of blood. Face is protected by skull, but if you get in too deep...

Osborn F Enready · Dec 3, 2007, 11:02 am

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Prax said:
You can draw and throw a blade faster then you can draw and fire a gun.

BS.

Dec 2, 2007, 03:50 pm	#22 (permalink) (top)
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phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	I want them to bring swords back. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

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Dec 2, 2007, 06:59 pm	#30 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	If your sword is large enough, it could block bullets. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

Dec 3, 2007, 04:14 am	#33 (permalink) (top)
Winter wind Never mad Location: Hong Kong, China Posts: 1,877	My theory of self-defense has a lot to do with running as fast as possible. Don't forget this is all in good fun! "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details." Albert Einstein "The devil is in the details" -?

Dec 3, 2007, 01:56 am	#31 (permalink) (top)
Athena Volcanic Erupter Location: Oregon Posts: 5,172	I used to have a pretty sharp tongue, but hopefully have mellowed.

Dec 3, 2007, 02:12 am	#32 (permalink) (top)
The Decider Hot Lava Posts: 1,660	Aside from my snarling poodle, I own no weapons.

Dec 3, 2007, 08:17 am	#34 (permalink) (top)
ZNFYRH Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375	After nearly 30 years of practice and training, I don't own any guns. At all times on my person I have at least one concealed blade of a fiber-composite material that does not set off metal detectors. I have a few Japanese wooden swords that will break bone but not slice through skin... at least not intentionally. And I have what effectively amounts to throwable scalpels. I can hold them concealed or throw with eyeball accuracy at 30 feet. All of my "pokey things" are kept in a place that only a 6 foot tall person an reach, and the wooden swords are kept out. My children and my wife are also learning basic strikes with them and how to hit correctly for a bone-break. With the way my daughter fights, she's a weapon in her own right. Makes a papa proud. IT'S A BOY!!