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Old Nov 15, 2007, 01:22 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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9/11 Directed Energy Weapon / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline

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Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."


There are three basic versions of the 9/11 events. Although differences and/or overlapping may occur, the following three versions generally describe what most people believe:


1. OGCT. This is known as the “Official Government Conspiracy Theory”. This version states that a guy from a cave in Afghanistan conspired with 19 boxcutter-wielding Muslims to hijack airplanes, outwit the USA’s entire multi-trillion dollar defense system, and cause the Twin Towers to collapse. This is the version pushed by the government and media as being the truth of 9/11.

2. APCT. I call this the “Alternate Propaganda Conspiracy Theory”. This version states that, more or less, there were hijackings on 9/11, but the planes might have been taken under remote control to ensure they crashed as planned. Airplanes most likely crashed at the Pentagon and Shanksville, but planes definitely did crash into the Twin Towers. The Twin Towers and WTC 7 collapsed from conventional explosives and thermite, and molten metal was found in the rubble. This is the version pushed by the government and media as being the “wacko conspiracy theory” that the “truth movement” believes.

3. REAL. This, simply, is the REAL version, backed by actual evidence, Laws of Physics, and common sense: There were no hijackings, no plane crashes, the corporate media broadcasted cartoons of an airplane impacting the South Tower, and the WTC complex (not just the Towers and WTC 7) was destroyed with Directed Energy Weapons (DEW). The government and media steer clear of these.



Refer to the Lenin-credited quote above.

Is it possible the “truth movement” has been run by the 9/11 perpetrators since day one?

Is it possible that certain individuals have been planted to steer the “truth movement” away from the perpetrators? Is it possible these plants have affiliations with directed energy weapons (DEW)?

Is it even possible that some of these plants are “in on it” while others got suckered in? You be the judge.



***Former Transportation Secretary, Norman Mineta, has ties to the Directed Energy Professional Society (DEPS).

Mineta was Vice President of Lockheed Martin, a sponsor of DEPS.
Norman Mineta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
DEPS Sponsors

Mineta ensured minimal interference with the DEW by grounding as many commercial airliners as possible during the timeframe of the towers’ destruction.

Mineta steered the “truth movement” toward hijackings and plane crashes by spreading the “Cheney stand down order” hoax.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/archiv...2003-05-23.htm
Norman Minetta tells 9/11 Commission that Dick Cheney knew the exact flight path of Flight 93 (and did nothing)



***Former BYU physics professor, Steven Jones, has done research at Los Alamos where directed energy weapons are researched.
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/...c/jones_cv.htm

Jones steered the “truth movement” toward thermite/conventional explosives/molten metal theories. Jones’ molten metal evidence has been shown to be fabricated.
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cm...d=91&Itemid=60

Jones ridicules the directed energy weapon and TV-Fakery theories with statements such as ”These two are noted for their no-planes-hit-the-Towers theories and for promoting the notion of ray-beams from space knocking down the Towers.”
December 6



***Physicist Greg Jenkins’ has connections to the NSA and DEW:

"This work was supported in part by NSF grant DMR-9705129 and by funding from the NSA."
http://www.physics.buffalo.edu/cerne...s/ybco_prl.pdf

Jenkins’ papers were listed in an annual report which also listed at least one manufacturer of directed energy weapons (Rockwell).
http://www.csr.umd.edu/csrpage/publi...nualreport.pdf
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/...t-overview.htm

Jenkins steered the “truth movement” away from directed energy weapons by conducting an ambush interview of Dr Judy Wood. (However, a read of the transcript reveals Dr Wood won the debate hands down.)
http://drjudywood.com/articles/trans...ranscript.html



***Official at the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, Van Romero, has ties to the Directed Energy Professional Society (DEPS).

Romero participated in events at DEPS before and after 9/11.
DE M&S Conference
DEPS Education Workshop 2000

Romero steered the “truth movement” toward standard controlled demolition by stating "It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed in strategic points"
9-11 Research: Van Romero

Romero is a controlled demolitions expert. Scroll down a little and note the photo. Does Romero actually think this was caused by a “relatively small amount of explosives”?



***Former Director of the Star Wars program, Robert Bowman, is about as close to directed energy weapons as one can get.

Bowman steered the “truth movement” toward hijackings, and NORAD standing down.
YouTube - 9/11 Truth: Dr. Robert Bowman Says 9/11 Was Treason
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Old Nov 15, 2007, 01:27 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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WTH? I thought this was taken care of?


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Old Nov 15, 2007, 01:34 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Old Nov 16, 2007, 09:15 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Dr. Robert Bowman this man is speaking the truth, too bad the sheeple can't see it.
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Old Nov 16, 2007, 03:46 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think so, mason.

It was pre-planted explosives.

That's where all the microfine dust came from.


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Old Nov 16, 2007, 04:19 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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I'm not sure I get exactly how the REAL conspiracy works? So they blasted thw WTC from space?
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Old Nov 16, 2007, 04:26 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think so, mason.

It was pre-planted explosives.

That's where all the microfine dust came from.
How the fuck did they get them in the buildings, then?
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 12:03 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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There were no hijackings, no plane crashes, the corporate media broadcasted cartoons of an airplane impacting the South Tower, and the WTC complex (not just the Towers and WTC 7) was destroyed with Directed Energy Weapons (DEW).
Aw jeez, here we go again.

OOOooops!!!! Minor problem. Masonfree has incorrectly assumed that every person in America was sitting in front of their television on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. Alas, there were 10s of thousands of Americans who were direct eye witnesses to the airplane attacks on both the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.

Oh wait, silly me... I forgot the most important part, where the government flew around before hand, spraying thousands of gallons of hallucinogens, covering the entire metropolitan New York and Washington DC areas, that would convince people they'd all seen the same imginary airplanes crashing into buildings that had actually been planted with explosives.

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I'm not sure I get exactly how the REAL conspiracy works? So they blasted thw WTC from space?
That's because you fail to comprehend just how diabolical the government is. Yessiree, they were really, really clever...

Sometime before 9/11, a squad of soulless minions, none of whom would ever utter a suspicious word to anyone in the years since, spirited the tons of explosives necessary to take down a building the size and strength of a Twin Tower into not one, not both, but both Twin Towers AND Tower 7, all without a single person noticing. And then, again, without raising ANY suspicions, they planted these tons of explosives so that none of the thousands of civilians working in and for the building would notice.

Even more diabolical, they planted the explosives on EXACTLY the floors -- in buildings so non-descrpt that you'd be hard pressed to count floors from across the street, much less from an airplane diving at 500 mph from miles away -- where airliners would later come crashing through (or, according to Masonfree, where 100s of thousands of drug addled pedestrians would BELIEVE they saw airliners come crashing through) . Not only that, the explosives were set up in such a way as not to detonate during the airplane crashes, or in the ensuing fires, but only later, at some arbitrary time to bring down the buildings, because obviously it wasn't enough just to explode and burn the buildings, they had to be brought down in order to righteously provoke Americans into attacking Iraq.

Meanwhile, four jetliners would leave the airports in Boston and Washington, in front of witnesses, with well documented passengers aboard, fly routes monitored by civilian and military radar and air traffic control, be mysteriously intercepted by unknown aircraft, replaced with explosive laden dummy aircraft that had been prepared by hundreds more soulless minions who would never breath a word, and then flown to places unknown where even more soulless minions would dispatch the hundreds of passengers and crew, never to be seen again.

Well, except for the pathologists who identified the passengers bodies from the Pentagon crash... obviously MORE minions taking part in the plot.

Then, another group of soulless minions, including actors, none of whom would ever breath a word, would fake telephone conversations from passengers about the airliners to families of the passengers to create the illusion of hijackers.

And we're supposed to believe that this galactically complex plot was immaculately carried out, without any of the hundreds of soulless minions every feeling guilty or ever breathing a word of it, by the same Bush League that hasn't been able to get a thing right since they've taken ffice, from a totally incompetent handling of the War in Iraq to hurricane Katrina.

Yep, I'm convinced.

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Old Nov 17, 2007, 06:53 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Yessiree, they were really, really clever...
And still are of course.

What you fail to understand, Sonart, is that Iraq, Katrina, etc. etc. are simply further, monstrously clever pieces in the puzzle designed to convince us that the Busheviks are enormously moronic and inept ... which they clearly are. So so much for that.

No really, believing that this hapless gang of incompetents pulled off 911 is just too much for me, no matter how oddly it suited their agenda. And it is pretty odd.


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Old Nov 17, 2007, 08:19 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Those pictures always did look a bit odd, but enough of that. Did the planes really crash into the buildings? Well it would mean that they were the target from the start, so that means the pilots would have cooperated the whole time, maybe the pilots were in on it or the sabatouers were pilots too? If I thought my plane was going to crash I would go into hystrics, and we know how a plane makes that sound when it is descending, so the passengers would have known and stormed the cockpit, right? That could have proven as evidence in the wreckage, a pile of bodies near the cockpit, or, all the bodies without seatbelts fastened as they would have unfastened them in their panaick, as looking out of the window they would ahve seen they were not landing near an airport as their pilots would have assured them they were doing. So the bodies, or skeletons would have been strewn around. Of course dental records would denote who was really on the plane, so we could see who was dead and aho wasn't dead, so we could see what happened. I think it is safe to say that it did happen as long as evidence says so. The suggestion that it was a lot of explosives doesn't go down well as it doesn't leave a jet engine in the wreckage does it?

So to start a war you kill your own citizens and demolish your own building with the intent of rebuilding it. This is not the way that governments usually do things, why has this never been done before in history? Desperate times maybe? But you have to think about the effects of planting a bomb and saying it comes from Saddam and detonating a bomb and saying it comes from Saddam, what is the difference between them? Why kill innocent people when you could get your reaction the same way in a more appropriate manner? Wars are never popular, so to have them popular for a short while, which is apparently what people claim the conspiracy did, is still just foolish, what with the risks involved. That and the prospect of keeping everyone quite - although that has already been said, heck the demands they would have made. What if there was a double agent, think of that risk! They would no doubt go over to the other side and help with propaganda against America.

I think if there was a plane wreckage with all the right other factors then it happened. If not then it must have been an explosion.


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Old Nov 17, 2007, 09:56 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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How the fuck did they get them in the buildings, then?
Gotta watch the language. I was banned for a week for what you just said.

Moving explosives into buildings isn't difficult. There's this thing called a hand truck:

And placing explosives against columns can be done above the suspended ceilings, below the floor above. Doesn't show at all.

And the offices are largely deserted at night. And the security had significant issues in the weeks preceeding September 11.

And there were many eyewitnesses of secondary explosions.

Etc. Now how you gonna act?


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Old Nov 17, 2007, 03:23 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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What you fail to understand, Sonart, is that Iraq, Katrina, etc. etc. are simply further, monstrously clever pieces in the puzzle designed to convince us that the Busheviks are enormously moronic and inept ... which they clearly are. So so much for that.
Y'know, I'd thought about that too, Nono. I mean, what better way to throw us off the trail of a plot designed to gain support for invading Iraq than to do just about everything possible to incompetently lose the very war the plot was intended to start.

OOoooo, that Bush League is really diabolical.



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Old Nov 17, 2007, 04:30 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Well, *I* for one refuse to believe that War is Peace and Peace is War unless they supply some pretty good evidence. Call me picky...

And now, staying right on topic (which is the incompetence of the "Chicken Talk" administration), here's an excerpt from a recent article by former US ambassador Peter Galbraith:

(...) America's Iraq quagmire has given new life to Iran's Syrian ally, Bashir Assad. In 2003, the Syrian Baathist regime seemed an anachronism unable to survive the region's political and economic changes. Today, Assad appears firmly in control, having even recovered from the opprobrium of having his regime caught red-handed in the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. In Lebanon, Hezbollah enjoys greatly enhanced stature for having held off the Israelis in the 2006 war. As Hezbollah's sponsor and source of arms, Iran now has an influence both in the Levant and in the Arab-Israeli conflict that it never before had.

The scale of the American miscalculation is striking. Before the Iraq war began, its neoconservative architects argued that conferring power on Iraq's Shiites would serve to undermine Iran because Iraq's Shiites, controlling the faith's two holiest cities, would, in the words of then Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, be "an independent source of authority for the Shia religion emerging in a country that is democratic and pro-Western." Further, they argued, Iran could never dominate Iraq, because the Iraqi Shiites are Arabs and the Iranian Shiites Persian. It was a theory that, unfortunately, had no connection to reality.

Iran's bond with the Iraqi Shiites goes far beyond the support Iran gave Shiite leaders in their struggle with Saddam Hussein. Decades of oppression have made their religious identity more important to Iraqi Shiites than their Arab ethnic identity. (Also, many Iraqi Shiites have Turcoman, Persian, or Kurdish ancestors.) While Sunnis identify with the Arab world, Iraqi Shiites identify with the Shiite world, and for many this means Iran.

There is also the legacy of February 15, 1991, when President George H.W. Bush called on the Iraqi people to rise up against Saddam Hussein. Two weeks later, the Shiites in southern Iraq did just that. When Saddam's Republican Guards moved south to crush the rebellion, President Bush went fishing and no help was given. Only Iran showed sympathy. Hundreds of thousands died and no Iraqi Shiite I know thinks this failure of US support was anything but intentional. In assessing the loyalty of the Iraqi Shiites before the war, the war's architects often stressed how Iraqi Shiite conscripts fought loyally for Iraq in the Iran-Iraq War. They never mentioned the 1991 betrayal. This was understandable: at the end of the 1991 war, Wolfowitz was the number-three man at the Pentagon, Dick Cheney was the defense secretary, and, of course, Bush's father was the president.

Iran and its Iraqi allies control, respectively, the Middle East's third- and second-largest oil reserves. Iran's influence now extends to the borders of the Saudi province that holds the world's largest oil reserves. President Bush has responded to these strategic changes wrought by his own policies by strongly supporting a pro-Iranian government in Baghdad and by arming and training the most pro-Iranian elements in the Iraqi military and police. (...)


Etc.

Whole article here: Tomgram: Peter Galbraith, The Iranian Conundrum


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Old Nov 21, 2007, 02:13 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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These threads are funny.

No, the REAL real answer is that aliens descended in a magical spaceship and fired their invisible beam weapon on New York and Washington and made us all THINK 9/11 really happened. If you go there now you can still touch the invisible buildings!


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Old Nov 21, 2007, 03:59 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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What you people don't know is that George Bush is a decedent of Xanthar Gwalgmir of Perscia 9 of the Fazli Nebula. Long have these ancient bipedal humanoids had their eye on the crystal of gwagamir. The crystal is kept underneath the WTC towers. Therefor they needed a way to bring them down without being discovered. So they conspired with George Bush to make it look like it was Islamic terrorists. They fired a devastating energy beam from deep within the Fazli nebula and destroyed the WTC towers. The evidence can be found here at ;

http://youneedtogetafukingjobyoufatfukingloser.com

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Old Nov 21, 2007, 09:09 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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I El Oh El'd, ruksak.


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Old Nov 22, 2007, 12:14 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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I have to say, watching it live, it sure gave me the impression of "Hollywood stunt". I called it as I watched it develop, and maintain it was an inside job, much to the dismay of my family.


I think one of the fundamental flaws that has developed in the cover-up is the amount of money spent on television productions attempting to "disprove" the conspiracy theorists.


I'm betting more money has gone into these productions than was spent on the entire 9/11 investigation. ( I wonder whos money? )


They had their story up front, ready to go, and they're sticking to it. ( Despite the obvious flaws that exsist in the timeline, and evidence to the contrary. )


If you have any skepticism whatsoever, read Crossing the Rubicon, by Mike Ruppert.
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I think the twin towers were brought down by a single bolt action, Italian made rifle. That's one magic bullet.


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I think one of the fundamental flaws that has developed in the cover-up is the amount of money spent on television productions attempting to "disprove" the conspiracy theorists.
That's because normal people are very amused by 9/11 hobbyist. People find psychosis and severe paranoid schizo behavior to be fascinating.

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have to say, watching it live, it sure gave me the impression of "Hollywood stunt".
Was it too "real" for your mind to handle? Some pissed off Muslims crash a few airplanes into a building and what..........you can't fathom the complex nature of such a thing?

I want to know what, psychologically speaking, causes people to delve into this sort of fantastic sci-fi inspired pseudo-reality? Has anyone ever written a book on the psychology of the mind of a 9/11 hobbyist/conspiracist?

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Dr. Robert Bowman this man is speaking the truth, too bad the sheeple can't see it.
HAHAHA....you said it again. "Sheeple". Does that make you feel superior in your little world? You say that in almost every post. "Sheeple".

Well, Mr NotaSheep, here's a video just for you.

9/11 South Park
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 01:58 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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That's because normal people are very amused by 9/11 hobbyist. People find psychosis and severe paranoid schizo behavior to be fascinating.

Was it too "real" for your mind to handle? Some pissed off Muslims crash a few airplanes into a building and what..........you can't fathom the complex nature of such a thing?
Honestly, I think you hit the head on the nail here. 9/11 was too real, it was scary.. and it was ultimately just really f*cked up. I think it drove some people to insanity, and caused a massive confusion...

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I want to know what, psychologically speaking, causes people to delve into this sort of fantastic sci-fi inspired pseudo-reality? Has anyone ever written a book on the psychology of the mind of a 9/11 hobbyist/conspiracist?
Its called, what-the-fuck-was-that syndrome. Something so horrifying happened that it made some peoples brains implode, causing a big mess inside their heads. Overtime, the grey matter began to rot in their noggins leaving them with nothing left but their "neuro-conspiracy".. uhh.. neurons. This lead up to the impending doom that awaited them when YOUTUBE started up, because then some other imploded-brain-ions decided to "debunk" the news coverage from that awfully-confusing day.

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HAHAHA....you said it again. "Sheeple". Does that make you feel superior in your little world? You say that in almost every post. "Sheeple".

Well, Mr NotaSheep, here's a video just for you.

9/11 South Park


That clip is utterly hilarious. I have a confession though...


I was once dragged into the whole conspiracy, and the "evidence" that I found on the internet was very convincing. I can understand how some people could get caught up in it, the event may have traumatized some. Regardless, I think there just has to be a time when people realize that these far-fetched ideas are nothing but frantic reactions to the images that were played excessively on their T.V.'s the months after 9/11.


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