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Old Nov 2, 2007, 06:57 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Do UFO's exist?

Time to answer the question, do they?

Are there any CIA officials out there with any info?

Are there any UFO nuts out there?

Do they really--

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Old Nov 2, 2007, 03:37 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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If you see something flying through the air and you can not identify it, then by definition it is a UFO.
But have you noticed that since the invention of the cam cord how sightings have steadily declined. Now in an era when so much is being recorded on video there are less sightings.
Also you might note the many similarities between the UFO sightings of the last century and that of the witch hunts during the 17 and 18 century.
In both cases it comes down to hysteria. If you say something often enough some one will start to believe it.
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Old Nov 2, 2007, 03:58 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Simple answer: UFO's that are extraterrestrial do not exist. Anything that has been reported as a UFO was either manmade craft or a mid-20's guy on acid.. of course, he reported a UFO and didn't get reported as a UFO himself.


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Old Nov 3, 2007, 12:52 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Unidentified Fecal Odour? Yeah, sometimes I do smell it from time to time. I do have a cat though. Maybe I have to clean the litter out.

Or do you mean Unidentified Flying Objects?

Well that's an even bigger question.

I usually see UFO's flying straight at the windsheild on the highway. I'm pretty sure they're bugs, but I don't normally have a chance to actually identify which kind. Well if I hit a Junebug I can tell.

As for Alien Crafts? Sure why not? I imagine Earth is an interesting little ant farm to study form time to time.
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Old Nov 3, 2007, 04:35 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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One can't be categorical. Precious few citings are inexplicable by other than extraterrestrial causes. But there have always been an intriguing few to which there are plenty of witnesses and no explanation.

It seems to me unscientific to rule out any extraterrestial connection.


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Old Nov 3, 2007, 11:07 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think alien craft have ever come to our planet.

But I'm sure intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, probably on tons of planets.
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Old Nov 5, 2007, 02:53 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Speculation that there are no other life forms in the universe is no more and no less valid than saying there are other life forms in the universe.


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Old Nov 6, 2007, 07:40 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Do UFO exist ?
I think appx. 90% of UFO reports, is a fake. For variety of reasons
People like to present and/or report something.
However, appx. 10% of UFO reports, stands for real data.
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Old Nov 7, 2007, 12:54 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Of course UFOs exist. But we haven't identified what they are.


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Old Nov 7, 2007, 02:38 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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I can't rule out the possibility that Earth has been visited by some sort of foreign, extraterrestrial life, but I'm extremely skeptical of that possibility. I do see it as likely that life exists beyond our solar system, but thus far I see no persuasive evidence suggesting that they've made it here. It'd certainly be fun to indulge myself in the belief that I have a shot at seeing an alien or an alien spacecraft, but that'd simply be subjecting myself self to naive sensationalism and wishful thinking.


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Old Nov 11, 2007, 04:10 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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One can't be categorical. Precious few citings are inexplicable by other than extraterrestrial causes. But there have always been an intriguing few to which there are plenty of witnesses and no explanation.

It seems to me unscientific to rule out any extraterrestial connection.
I agree with this.

As for there being more intelligent life outside of earth, you have to consider that there has to be a most intelligent somewhere, so we can't rule ourselves out a possibility. What would be far more exciting than intelligent life outside earth, is the existence of more blissful life outside of earth.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 02:12 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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The sun is about halfway through it's life span, so the solar system has had 5 billion years to evolve. Many other stars have long since burned out and gone dark. If life has developed on other planets, this leads to at least two conclusions:
1. Einstein is correct, there is no way to exceed the speed of light, so there's no practical way to get here from some far off system.
2. Life on all planets evolves from lower forms and, like we are liable to do, destroys itself before it gains the knowledge or capability of trans-lightspeed travel.


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Old Nov 14, 2007, 02:42 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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The sun is about halfway through it's life span, so the solar system has had 5 billion years to evolve. Many other stars have long since burned out and gone dark. If life has developed on other planets, this leads to at least two conclusions:
1. Einstein is correct, there is no way to exceed the speed of light, so there's no practical way to get here from some far off system.
2. Life on all planets evolves from lower forms and, like we are liable to do, destroys itself before it gains the knowledge or capability of trans-lightspeed travel.
Source???
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 11:24 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Source???
The source for the sun's life span is:
ASP: Biography of a Star: Our Sun's Birth, Life, and Death

The conclusions are mine. I'm sure you have some of your own.


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Old Nov 17, 2007, 04:12 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Speculation that there are no other life forms in the universe is no more and no less valid than saying there are other life forms in the universe.
Depends what you mean by "valid". Certainly it's all speculation since we can't be sure. But I'd say the odds against there being no life outside Earth are, shall we say, "astronomical".

And the more places on this planet we find life that we previously would have considered impossible, the more astronomical it becomes.


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Old Nov 17, 2007, 05:00 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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1. Einstein is correct, there is no way to exceed the speed of light, so there's no practical way to get here from some far off system.
If we can't go faster than the speed of light, we can go at 99,99999% of it (your mass will increase a lot but that's not a problem with ET). Put the E.T. in cryopreservation and in 30-40 years you can reach many stars.
Then there is the wormhole trick too.


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Old Nov 19, 2007, 02:11 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Ah, yes. The wormhole theory. I quite like that one. I belive, as the Soviet Scientists did, that there is nothing to attract aliens to Earth, but they could possibly have been here for research reasons. Same as we tag penguins and lions, they tag Humans.

Now, changing the subject slightly, what of Alien invasions, possibly in the fututre, near fututre, or- HOLY LENIN! LOOK AT THAT!


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Old Nov 19, 2007, 03:55 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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The sun is about halfway through it's life span, so the solar system has had 5 billion years to evolve. Many other stars have long since burned out and gone dark. If life has developed on other planets, this leads to at least two conclusions:
1. Einstein is correct, there is no way to exceed the speed of light, so there's no practical way to get here from some far off system.
2. Life on all planets evolves from lower forms and, like we are liable to do, destroys itself before it gains the knowledge or capability of trans-lightspeed travel.
If that determination is true - execpt for the data that concerns the Sun (itself), then there is no sense of any form of live to emerge ever, within the Universe we are part of.
With billions of years ahead of us, we (most likely) would reach the level of technology that prompts us to (re)search other parts of the Universe, and find a suitable place for Homo Sapiens.
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 04:04 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Ah, yes. The wormhole theory. I quite like that one. I belive, as the Soviet Scientists did, that there is nothing to attract aliens to Earth, but they could possibly have been here for research reasons. Same as we tag penguins and lions, they tag Humans.

Now, changing the subject slightly, what of Alien invasions, possibly in the fututre, near fututre, or- HOLY LENIN! LOOK AT THAT!
I do not think Alien invasion takes place, ever, if you mean that Aliens would try to colonize the Solar System's 3rd planet Earth.
(It can not be excluded, though.)

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Lenin-Stalin (murderous) duo's decisions (ex)terminated appx. 40 million people.
I think you could refrain from submitting that slogan, even if it is taken for "fun".
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Old Nov 23, 2007, 04:08 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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C'mon, Rainbow. Stalin (and Lenin) was/is worshipped by confused Russian in the religious sense. So, once again, is Mao in China.
No point arguing in rational terms.

OK, back to the topic...


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