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View Poll Results: Should Bush be tried for treason or impeachment?
YES 20 68.97%
NO 8 27.59%
Maybe 1 3.45%
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Old Jun 29, 2004, 11:15 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Setting conspiracy theory aside and sticking to documented facts,Vote, then State your case.
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Old Jun 29, 2004, 11:51 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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If Bush is impeached, then almost every Senator on the floor should be as well. I don't think you impeach Senators, but you know what I mean.


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Old Jun 29, 2004, 11:53 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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We just had this topic didn't we?


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Old Jun 30, 2004, 03:56 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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The Valerie Plame Affair, with the guilty coverup is both impeachable and treasonous.


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Old Jun 30, 2004, 04:23 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Osborn F Enready,
We just had this topic didn't we?
I dont remember it, and I dont see a search option.
Besides there is always new dirt on this crew.
we have
1) Prisoner Torture
2) Prior Knowledge
3) Geneva Convention
4) Misapropriation of Funds (using Afghan funds in Iraq)
5) Valeri Plame
6) Wartime Profiteering
7) Lies to America in state of the union address(The rape and torture rooms are closed)
8)The Patriot Act as an illegal document
9)Misrepresenting Iraq threat to US...

Thats enough from me for now, can you add any?
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Old Jun 30, 2004, 11:42 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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So you all want to get rid of him now yet he is running for re-election. Hmmmmmmm......
Desperate times call for desperate measures, yet moves of desperation are no way to go... So in this paradox we slap him on the wrist and blame Clinton.


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Old Jun 30, 2004, 12:21 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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So you all want to get rid of him now yet he is running for re-election. Hmmmmmmm......
Desperate times call for desperate measures, yet moves of desperation are no way to go... So in this paradox we slap him on the wrist and blame Clinton.
I feel it should be done or else the people and future presidents may get the absurd idea that this is what presidents do. A precedent must be set. Irrelevent of the fact that we have a partisan House and Congress. It may not succeed, but now that this administration has been exposed for fraud in spite of the best efforts of a presidential and corporate controlled media, a few Republicans must be as disgusted with both, domestic and foreign affairs crimes of this motley crew. We only need a few to cross over in support of an America For the People. I dont see it as a desperate measure, but as a duty of Congress. The office of President should not have to be defined for principled people, but somehow this this idiot squeezed through the cracks. We the people did not choose GW Bush for president and we should not be forced to support him or be labeled a terrorist just because he is a "war president" especially when said war was not a call to arms for American values, rather it was framed in deceit and played on the fears of a duped nation. What the hell does Clinton have to do with anything? Reps. failed to impeach Clinton after wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on a sexual imprpriety. We are talking Mass Murder of Americans and fellow human beings abroad. And the abuse of power in several crimes this is a little bigger than a blow job.
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Old Jul 1, 2004, 10:37 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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So whenever some one is supposed to hold the highest spot in the land, and he knows what is best (supposedly), he isn't allowed to do things without reason, really I don't care if we were lied to because we got rid of a bad guy bottom line. It was best for the world if not best for the country.


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Old Jul 1, 2004, 11:01 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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I don't care if we were lied to...
Wow.

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...because we got rid of a bad guy bottom line. It was best for the world if not best for the country.
No matter the cost, eh?
Holy crap man, do you think about these things at all?
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Old Jul 1, 2004, 11:33 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Impeach him if anything for the election results that were falsified.


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Old Jul 1, 2004, 12:25 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Now that you could go for.


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Old Jul 1, 2004, 12:26 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Now you all have Saddam backing you.


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Old Jul 1, 2004, 12:32 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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The issue of price is important, yet if there is a pay off in all of this or it stopped worse things from happening it may be worth it. Heroic loss of many for the good of many more???

My last posts are all strictly on political grounds not humane and ethical. I don’t even believe them much but I’m simply offering another point of view.


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Old Jul 1, 2004, 01:42 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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how can people tolerate a president using lies/exaggerations as a basis of sending people to their deaths???

if they can be allowed to get away with that, they can get away with anything.


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Old Jul 1, 2004, 01:52 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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This Saddam "Double" court scenario will be portrayed in the Bush Bitch media, the way they coached him. Saddam is calling Bush a war criminal (They will only leak what is good for their cause). So that anyone who calls Bush a war criminal will seem to be an enemy.
In fact Bush is guilty of the same crimes Mass Murder, Torture etc. as Saddam. In fact Bush's dad was a party to supplying Saddam with the WMDs and sarin and mustard gas that he used on his own people. Bush is DANGEROUS and should be put in check IMMEDIATELY before he hurts more people and himself http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publ...icle_4636.shtml
and a follow up by a shrink: Prominent DC Shrink Diagnoses Bush to be a Paranoid, Sadistic, Meglomaniac http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publ...icle_4687.shtml
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Old Jul 3, 2004, 11:38 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Quote:
Originally posted by gr8fuldaniel,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gr8fuldaniel,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Setting conspiracy theory aside and sticking to documented facts,Vote, then State your case.[/b]

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we have
1) Prisoner Torture
2) Prior Knowledge
3) Geneva Convention
4) Misapropriation of Funds (using Afghan funds in Iraq)
5) Valeri Plame
6) Wartime Profiteering
7) Lies to America in state of the union address(The rape and torture rooms are closed)
8)The Patriot Act as an illegal document
9)Misrepresenting Iraq threat to US...
Thats enough from me for now, can you add any?
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1) ??
2) conspiracy theory
3) ??
4) maybe something
5) conspiracy theory
6) conspiracy theory
7) stupid theory - comparing what Saddam did to what we did is just plain stupid.
8) conspiracy theory
9) conspriacy theory


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Old Jul 4, 2004, 01:42 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Dieval.... try not to be so open minded, and fact oriented.

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Old Jul 4, 2004, 01:53 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dieval,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dieval,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:
Originally posted by gr8fuldaniel,@
Setting conspiracy theory aside and sticking to documented facts,Vote, then State your case.
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we have
1) Prisoner Torture
2) Prior Knowledge
3) Geneva Convention
4) Misapropriation of Funds  (using Afghan funds in Iraq)
5) Valeri Plame
6) Wartime Profiteering
7) Lies to America in state of the union address(The rape and torture rooms are closed)
8)The Patriot Act as an illegal document
9)Misrepresenting Iraq threat to US...
Thats enough from me for now, can you add any?
MY Reply in BOLDGr8fuldaniel
1) ?? (Was policy/orders and not a few bad apples)
2) conspiracy theory (Bush ignored PDB's, went on vacation)
3) ?? (Bush said Geneva conventions do not apply to him)
4) maybe something
5) conspiracy theory (Fact; His admin exposed a CIA agent, High Treason)
6) conspiracy theory (This is so obviously about oil and no-bid contracts)
7) stupid theory - comparing what Saddam did to what we did is just plain stupid. (Not comparing, Bush state of Union had many lies, Tortures were happening as he spoke by Bush hired mercenaries (Contractors))
8) conspiracy theory (The way it was presented to congress, and Tom Daschle was attacked with anthrax passed it without congress allowed time to read it)
9) conspriacy theory (Bush lied about WMDs and threatened america with mushroom cloud(Bushs own little conspiracy theory))[/b][/quote]
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Old Jul 4, 2004, 03:52 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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ROFL....nothing but conspiracy theories....try again.


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Old Jul 4, 2004, 05:49 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Conspiracy yes, indisputable evidence supported by facts displaces mere theory. Wake up. We are being lied to.
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