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Old Sep 27, 2007, 07:44 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Air Force refused to fly weapons to Middle East theater

Air Force refused to fly weapons to Middle East theater


By Wayne Madsen – WMR Sept. 24, 2007

WMR has learned from U.S. and foreign intelligence sources that the B-52 transporting six stealth AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles, each armed with a W-80-1 nuclear warhead, on August 30, were destined for the Middle East via Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana.

However, elements of the Air Force, supported by U.S. intelligence agency personnel, successfully revealed the ultimate destination of the nuclear weapons and the mission was aborted due to internal opposition within the Air Force and U.S. Intelligence Community. Yesterday, the Washington Post attempted to explain away the fact that America's nuclear command and control system broke down in an unprecedented manner by reporting that it was the result of "security failures at multiple levels." It is now apparent that the command and control breakdown, reported as a BENT SPEAR incident to the Secretary of Defense and White House, was not the result of a command and control chain-of-command "failures" but the result of a revolt and push back by various echelons within the Air Force and intelligence agencies against a planned U.S. attack on Iran using nuclear and conventional weapons.


Admiral William Fallon,

CentCom Commander Fallon: Attack On Iran ‘Will Not Happen On My Watch


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Old Sep 27, 2007, 07:47 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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This is not a major news source. Moving.


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Old Sep 27, 2007, 08:39 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Well, of this proves to be factual, well, there's going to be quite a buzz surrounding this thread.


I'm thinking we will have Bush as Dictator in the way we will have world government, whether we want it, or not.


At least I could turn off the Twilight Zone.
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Old Sep 28, 2007, 04:44 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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. Each bomb had the power of up to 10 Hiroshima bombs.

I am very glad that we have military officers like Admiral Fallon - who are honest , courageous and decent. He prevented a lot of deaths by ignoring and refusing to obey an UNLAWFUL ORDER.

Bush knows that he will lose a public relations war against a highly decorated officer. Count the ribbons on his chest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Old Sep 29, 2007, 01:26 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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What gives this report some semblance of credence is understanding how many safeguards and controls must have been violated for something like this to happen. Almost unimaginable.


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Old Sep 30, 2007, 02:28 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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What gives this report some semblance of credence is understanding how many safeguards and controls must have been violated for something like this to happen. Almost unimaginable.
" Stranger Than Strangelove

by Gordon Prather



According to the Post, the 21-foot missiles – even when in storage – were already mounted on pylons, six apiece in clusters of three, "for quick mounting to the wings of a B-52."

That presumably would mean that this particular non-certified B-52 was not capable of being mated – electrically and mechanically – to the presumably unique pylon for carrying AGM-129s, much less capable of arming, targeting and launching the "dial-a-yield" nuke-armed AGM-129.

According to the Post, a year ago SecDef Rumsfeld had ordered all 400 nuke-armed AGM-129s to be retired and as of August more than 200 already had been. The by-then routine procedure called for the nuke warhead to be removed in the Minot Special Weapons Storage facility and replaced with a dummy warhead of the same size and weight.

But, according to the Post, the loading of the B-52 at Minot took eight hours because of unusual trouble attaching the pylon on the right side of the plane -- the one with the dummy warheads.

Unusual trouble attaching the pylon on which the six missiles containing dummy warheads were mounted?

No trouble at all attaching the pylon – on which the six missiles containing "dial-a-yield" nukes were mounted – to a B-52 that was not certified (or equipped) to carry, arm and launch AGM-129s"


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Old Sep 30, 2007, 05:20 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Wow, this is starting to smell like a False Flag Operation gone bad.


Or perhaps at least the preparations leading up to one.
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Old Oct 1, 2007, 12:22 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Wow, this is starting to smell like a False Flag Operation gone bad.


Or perhaps at least the preparations leading up to one.
I don't think so. I suspect that there was some kind of nuclear threat from Syria that the U.S. needed to counter that required these missiles to be in theater. I think the Israeli's took care of that threat a week later when they carried out their raid in Syria. I doubt that we'll ever hear the real story, but I simply don't believe that 6 nuke cruise missiles could be "accidentally" transported across the U.S.


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Old Oct 1, 2007, 11:48 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Indeed... although most sites I have seen this article on do all seem to be quite biased, so I would question the original content and it's actual truth for now.

Although things certainly seem plausable.... what exactly would or could be the national response if a nuclear attack was started without notification by US officials until after the fact?

In other words.... what would you guys do if they set off a few bombs, cause massive devistation to Iran, and then the next day announced their actions to the public?
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