How to change the world - by Bill Clinton.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: Technosoul Got any links to confirm those claims?

The first one:

Conservative Philanthropists Are More Generous, Experts Say, by Arthur C. Brooks -- Beliefnet.com
ABC News: Who Gives More -- The Rich or The Poor?
Who Really Cares? (Conservatives give more than Liberals)
The Chronicle, 11/23/2006: Charity's Political Divide
Book Says Conservatives Give More than Liberals (Commonweal Institute Blog)

As for the second one, do you think maybe there is a real world outside of the Internet and that it is conceivable someone might have actually heard a real live speech in which the words were spoken?

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Chancellor The first one: Conservative Philanthropists Are More Generous, Experts Say, by Arthur C. Brooks -- Beliefnet.com ABC News: Who Gives More -- The Rich or The Poor? Who Really Cares? (Conservatives give more than Liberals) The Chronicle, 11/23/2006: Charity's Political Divide Book Says Conservatives Give More than Liberals (Commonweal Institute Blog) As for the second one, do you think maybe there is a real world outside of the Internet and that it is conceivable someone might have actually heard a real live speech in which the words were spoken?

It is true that conservatives are typically the one with a big business and they can donate more junk to get tax write offs. This is not what we are thinking about.

[Osborn F Enready]

Wow, great retort Techno...... :rolleyes: :confused:

[Chancellor]

Quote by: Technosoul It is true that conservatives are typically the one with a big business and they can donate more junk to get tax write offs. This is not what we are thinking about.

But we're not talking about why conservatives donate more (and the studies that were done were not restricted to rich corporate types - you might have known that if you had bothered to read the studies).

You can't tell me that Theresa Heinz Kerry and other rich liberals don't take advantage of as many tax write-offs as they can get away with. So, don't give me this crap about tax write-offs!

[Chancellor]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Wow, great retort Techno...... :rolleyes: :confused:

It's a typical leftist ploy to paint all conservatives as rich corporate types. I guess he's never been to a red state.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Chancellor It's a typical leftist ploy to paint all conservatives as rich corporate types. I guess he's never been to a red state.

No, it's more than that, he seems to thrive on being a disinformation agent.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: Milton Bradley No, it's more than that, he seems to thrive on being a disinformation agent.

To be a disinformation agent in this case would require that he not believe what he's saying: I think he really believes all that stuff he's spewing forth.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Chancellor To be a disinformation agent in this case would require that he not believe what he's saying: I think he really believes all that stuff he's spewing forth.

Touche.

[Clarence]

Quote by: Chancellor To be a disinformation agent in this case would require that he not believe what he's saying: I think he really believes all that stuff he's spewing forth.

no somewhere in the back of his mind he's glad I'm off his case. For someone supposedly without enough time to anser simple questions, he sure is erupting with bs currently. Using childish tactics and all. Fight fire with fire



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[Technosoul]

Quote by: Chancellor But we're not talking about why conservatives donate more (and the studies that were done were not restricted to rich corporate types - you might have known that if you had bothered to read the studies). You can't tell me that Theresa Heinz Kerry and other rich liberals don't take advantage of as many tax write-offs as they can get away with. So, don't give me this crap about tax write-offs!

Of course they do.. Although I do not who Theresa Heinz Kerry is or why you brought up that name. (do he make ketchup?).

Martha Stewart might take whatever deductions are possible. In fact most rich people hand it over to some firm that does that sort of thing, and they do their taxes for them, and claim what the law permits.

However most rich people who are into profit over charity would vote Republican. That is the point.

My next point is that any charity done for the purposes of tax wirte offs should not be counted in that 'study'. Because doing so means that the corperation or individual will come out ahead money wise ( in the long run). Therefore the study linked would not be valid as a scorepad for realities.

Admit it or not, you know this is true.

[Technosoul]

[quote=Chancellor;430487]It's a typical leftist ploy to paint all conservatives as rich corporate types. I guess he's never been to a red state.[/QUOTe)

Is that like a red country such as the USSR, or do they just have a lot of injuns?

Just kidding. Well, California is the most wealthy state, on the national ticket they mostly vote democrtic but in our state elections they often put a Republican in the governors seat. None the less we are the other color (not red).... better dead the Red.

When I lived in a poorer neighborhood most people were for democats or else they did not give a hoot about politics. But when I lived in the wealthy neighborhoods they all were Republicans and very outspoken about it, and they were also Christian fundamentalists.

In the poorer neighborhoods someone would always help you out, in the rich neighborhoods they zoom past and yell some nasty remark at you for hampering traffic.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Clarence no somewhere in the back of his mind he's glad I'm off his case. For someone supposedly without enough time to anser simple questions, he sure is erupting with bs currently. Using childish tactics and all. Fight fire with fire as always click for larger image

Yep, like water off a ducks back. Are you trying to tickle me pink so I will look red like those people in the red states?

[Chancellor]

Quote by: Technosoul Of course they do.. Although I do not who Theresa Heinz Kerry is or why you brought up that name. (do he make ketchup?).

She's the wife of leftist and 2004 Democrat presidential candidate Senator John Kerry; and, yes, she is the same Heinz as the ketchup company.

Martha Stewart might take whatever deductions are possible. In fact most rich people hand it over to some firm that does that sort of thing, and they do their taxes for them, and claim what the law permits.

Which is what makes these rich folks hypocrites! Congress keeps wanting to raise taxes (because, they claim, the federal government doesn't have enough money) and yet keeps passing all these ways for rich people to get out of paying the amount of tax they would owe if there were no deductions.

However most rich people who are into profit over charity would vote Republican. That is the point.

Well, you have no actual proof of that.

My next point is that any charity done for the purposes of tax wirte offs should not be counted in that 'study'. Because doing so means that the corperation or individual will come out ahead money wise ( in the long run). Therefore the study linked would not be valid as a scorepad for realities.

Well, that gets rid of the relatively few Democrats who give to charity and some Republicans as well. It still shows conservatives give more to charity than liberals (because liberals tend to expect the government to do the work of charities and, thus, they want the government to steal money from the taxpayers).

Admit it or not, you know this is true.

See my comments throughout the rest of this post.