Sheeple

[ZNFYRH]

I'm wondering what the functional purpose is of that word.

I'm wondering how that word is, in any way, respectful, or appropriate for use in mature discussion.

I'm wondering why people who accept the world around them are labeled as unintelligent followers.

Obviously there are people out there who are unintelligent followers that don't think for themselves, but accepting the world in which you live doesn't make you such.

So please, for those of you that toss the term around, what makes you better than them?

Please provide me with some kind of proof, if you could.

Because, quite honestly, those of you who toss out the derogatory pigeon-holing terms (nanny-stater, sheeple, etc.) all strike me as followers yourselves for thinking that using those words is cool.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Sheeple are people who accept the unnacceptable infringements and power mongering of government, to most people who use the term, that is criminal negligence.

[Kamehameha34]

Sheeple are people who've become so accustomed to their government-regimented raping that they're trained to pull the "common sense" card when someone notes the obvious constitutional infringements.

A sheeple would:

~ Assume that they're only option is to comply.
~ Make themselves slaves under the guise of 'accepting the world around them'

[ZNFYRH]

I didn't ask what "sheeple" are.

I asked what purpose it serves and why those of you who use it seem to think you are better.

[Kamehameha34]

No one can help what you think "seems" to be so.

[ZNFYRH]

What kind of response is that?

I asked what purpose the word serves and why those who use it think they are better than the "sheeple".

If you can't answer the question, don't troll the topic.

[Kamehameha34]

I asked what purpose it serves

To which we responded with the category of people to which we've given a short-hand label.

and why those of you who use it seem to think you are better.

To which I responded that no one can help what you think seems to be so.

Just be grateful you got a serious response - this thread is itself the epitome of trolling.

[ZNFYRH]

Quote by: Kame To which we responded with the category of people to which we've given a short-hand label.

I know you did.

I didn't ask what type of people... I asked what purpose it serves to use the word.

Quote by: Kame Just be grateful you got a serious response - this thread is itself a piece of troll spit.

How rude do I have to be for you to get a hint?

F**k off, Kame, and don't post in a thread if you're going to start with your bullshit.

[Gods_Mercenary]

It serves to label people as proppers up of an unjust government, and as an insult.

[Kamehameha34]

I know you did. I didn't ask what type of people... I asked what purpose it serves to use the word

To provide a shorthand label for "people who've become so accustomed to their government-regimented raping that they're trained to pull the "common sense" card when someone notes the obvious constitutional infringements."

How rude do I have to be for you to get a hint? Fuck off, Kame, and don't post in a thread if you're going to start with your bullshit.

Oh I get it, you don't want to have a discussion without the option of being an arrogant ass, because you know you'll be called on it.

Just like Fonceai, you want to hide your intellectual shortcomings with a holier-than-thou, ruff-n-tuff persona by employing a few big-boy words, and peppering your posts with little speeches decrying opponent X's "bullshit" of the hour.

[ZNFYRH]

Quote by: Gods It serves to label people as proppers up of an unjust government, and as an insult.

Okay, I understand that.

And I'm not saying our government is just, not by any means.

But why insult a group of people because their idea of "just" might be different from ours?

Quote by: Kame blah blah blah blah

I want to have a discussion that is on-topic.

I cleared up the topic in post #4.

Discuss the topic or get out of the thread.

[Kamehameha34]

I want to have a discussion that is on-topic. I cleared up the topic in post #4. Discuss the topic or get the fuck out of the thread.

Oh, missed it did you?

Oh I get it, you don't want to have a discussion without the option of being an arrogant ass, because you know you'll be called on it.

Just like Fonceai, you want to hide your intellectual shortcomings with a holier-than-thou, ruff-n-tuff persona by employing a few big-boy words, and peppering your posts with little speeches decrying opponent X's "bullshit" of the hour.

[ZNFYRH]

I didn't miss it. It was full of blatant insult towards me based on someone who was banned for insulting the mods. It is baiting and this is the only response you'll get from me on things like that. Do not post in this thread if you can't participate in the topic.

[Gods_Mercenary]

But why insult a group of people because their idea of "just" might be different from ours?

Insulting people is fun?

[ZNFYRH]

Quote by: Gods Insulting people is fun?

Agreed, but that brings up the other two parts of the topic:

How is insulting a group of people necessary for mature discussion... especially on a forum that is trying to attract serious political debate?

And on what grounds do those who give the insult feel they are better than those they are insulting?

[Kamehameha34]

Quote by: ZNFYRH I didn't miss it. It was full of blatant insult towards me based on someone who was banned for insulting the mods. It is baiting and this is the only response you'll get from me on things like that. Do not post in this thread if you can't participate in the topic.

It's not an insult, and it's not based on anything.

It's a valid evaluation, and a comparison to a member of whom you follow the footsteps of. Your childish attitude is getting in the way of your own education at this site - for it's you who can't adequately participate in the topic.

Your questions have been answered.

This time, if you'll spare us the tantrum, I'll answer them again - in depth:

So please, for those of you that toss the term around, what makes you better than them?

Your question is built on a false premise. Libertarians can't be generalized to say they all imagine themselves better than anyone.

I'm wondering what the functional purpose is of that word

To provide a shorthand label for people who've become so accustomed to their government-regimented raping that they're trained to pull the "common sense" card when someone notes the obvious constitutional infringements.

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[Chancellor]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary It serves to label people as proppers up of an unjust government, and as an insult.

It also serves as a term that is descriptive of people who just blindly follow what the Republicans, Democrats and media tell them.

Quote by: ZNFYRH I'm wondering what the functional purpose is of that word.

While in my literary view, it is an excellent word, its sole purpose is to denigrate and deviantize people. It's used by people who, lacking cogent and valid arguments for their own ill-informed views, resort to insult, disrespect, and mean-spiritedness. Having lost an argument, it's all that is left to them--a childish lashing out.

That there are a number of people using volconvo who find it difficult--often impossible--to make arguments without resorting to such unnecessary tactics is unfortunate. However, their use of words like "sheeple" says more about their personal lack of qualifications, intellect, creativity, moral courage, and character than those they disparage.

Regards
S.

[ZNFYRH]

sdbest

I wouldn't necessarily go that far, though I understand the sentiment and agree with your literary view.

It is a word that does summarize the type of person being referenced. The problem is that the word is used to be insulting at the same time as representing a group.

Why use "sheeple" freely but frown on other disparaging terms for other groups?