I am the victor

[Zhavric]

With Fonceai perma-banned and Kame & ZN having me on ignore I have won. None of them could hold up to the arguments I made and their post-modernist drivel is (by their own admission) untenable. Z has never been able to prove god is possible and Kame can't even prove he exists. I wish them no ill will and, should they abandon their vapid & defeated stances, I'll be happy to help educate them further about logic & science.

[Jack]

Well, bud, don't get a cramp in your arm while patting yourself on the back.

[Maybe-not]

Good go. However these sad fanatics most likely still "believe".

[S and A forever]

I'm new to the forums but I was looking at some of your other posts such as your argument on Atheism and you were beat down yourself. You shouldn't post and gloat about how you are better than others cause others are better than you as well. These forums are about debating for the sake of advancing the topic not to show that you got one point over somebody else for whatever the reason may be. Look forward to debating you when and if your ego dies down.

[Alive]

Yeah, it's easy to be the victor when you ignore all my arguments, Zhav. :)

You still lack a fundamental understanding of how logic and science works. I have hope for you yet; you aren't as far gone into absurdity as some of the others, but I think you'd do good to stop congratulating yourself and actually consider your arguments from a more sophisticated standpint.

[arielmessenger]

Quote by: Zhavric With Fonceai perma-banned and Kame & ZN having me on ignore I have won. None of them could hold up to the arguments I made and their post-modernist drivel is (by their own admission) untenable. Z has never been able to prove god is possible and Kame can't even prove he exists. I wish them no ill will and, should they abandon their vapid & defeated stances, I'll be happy to help educate them further about logic & science.

Zhavric,

I stopped posting on the silly atheism is scientific thread and its clones started by atheists fighting with each other because there was was no point in debating with closed atheist irrational minds, like yours..

At no time did you or any atheists ever post anything to contradict the fatal flaw of atheism which is leaping to conclusions totally unjustified given the short time frame of science knowledge.

Only the agnostic stance is scientific. Atheism has already committed itself to an ideology (anti-God, anti-spiritual phenomena) that it can never prove, never show anything but rigged experiments that purposely screen out real spiritual event reports, i.e., screens out literally millions of such reports that continue to happen everyday of the week. Atheists say these do not happen yet they do and have happened in so dramatic a fashion that even the atheist's own national history, Western Civilization history, are filled with theistic values obtained from spiritual encounters of human beings with God.

So, Zhavric, the only thing you've accomplished is making a foolish statement that you cannot ever back up.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Zhavric With Fonceai perma-banned and Kame & ZN having me on ignore I have won. None of them could hold up to the arguments I made and their post-modernist drivel is (by their own admission) untenable. Z has never been able to prove god is possible and Kame can't even prove he exists. I wish them no ill will and, should they abandon their vapid & defeated stances, I'll be happy to help educate them further about logic & science.

If that banning had happened in Boston you would be famous.

But at least I have not perma-banned you from my postings. So you are not out of the box yet.

Some tried to ban Jesus, Martin King Jr, and Charles Darwin. It is down right unAmerican to ban free speech. But on the other hand we also have the 'right to listen or not listen" and so they are in effect just banning their own ears.

But I for one do not wish to ban technology without souls because the Robots will run of oil sooner or later anyway. But in the Wizard of Oz they get some help to finish the journey. But that is only a myth.

Victory is a myth and belief in such nonsense will only result in more taxes for future generations. As we now have confirmed in Irag.

As the great victor stood on a warship claiming victory.

and.... er.... what was the topic?

[Matt W]

And you wonder why people think you're arrogant? Sheesh. Grow up.

[Praxius]

If your debating was so good, you shouldn't need to start a thread proclaiming your all mighty omnipotence. The debate should speak for itself and others will determine if you are what you say you are..... and if it doesn't matter what others think of you, then why did you make this post?

*Starts making a Lecter brain plate as he digs deeper into Z'z mind.....*


*image is of course fake and created in Maya, quite well I might add*

So tell me now Zhavric, and be honest...... did this silence your goats? Did your mommy and daddy kill them while you were reading the bible? Is this hatred and seeking of omnipotence due to your love for those goats and the affection and bond that you all had when you were young and free?



Tell me truly.... is this really you not believing in God, or is this just deep emotional hatred towards humanity for taking away your love goats because they couldn't produce good cheese anymore?

Now I wonder why that occured? Perhaps you could shed some light on the subject for all of us here Zhavric....... has this winning the debate silenced your goats?

[Jack]

Hmmm, I'm an atheist who happens to like goats. Should I be worried? :eek:

[Ibn_Sina]

Lol... If someone attains some pleasure from internet debating, you guys should congratulate him/her for such a lifetime achievement..

[bishop]

wasn't zharvic banned once upon a time as well?

[PatrickHenry]

Resurrection from the dead?

[Matt W]

No, a long-term ban before we had any structure in place about these things. I have yet to see any evidence that he's learned from it...

[The Dunedan]

Then WHY is he still HERE?!

[gallo]

Quote by: The Dunedan Then WHY is he still HERE?!

Because he's funny? After all, summer TV is nothing but re-runs and we need to entertain ourselves somehow. The fact that arielmessenger tries to respond adds to the mirth.

I mean, doesn't the idea that Zhavric is going to educate anyone further about logic & science cause hours of enjoyment? I mean - just read it and then go and find a comfortable chair and think about it. Hours of enjoyment.

Oh. I forgot. Does the word 'hubris' ring a bell?

[Zhavric]

Quote by: arielmessenger Zhavric, I stopped posting on the silly atheism is scientific thread and its clones started by atheists fighting with each other because there was was no point in debating with closed atheist irrational minds, like yours.. At no time did you or any atheists ever post anything to contradict the fatal flaw of atheism which is leaping to conclusions totally unjustified given the short time frame of science knowledge. Only the agnostic stance is scientific. Atheism has already committed itself to an ideology (anti-God, anti-spiritual phenomena) that it can never prove, never show anything but rigged experiments that purposely screen out real spiritual event reports, i.e., screens out literally millions of such reports that continue to happen everyday of the week. Atheists say these do not happen yet they do and have happened in so dramatic a fashion that even the atheist's own national history, Western Civilization history, are filled with theistic values obtained from spiritual encounters of human beings with God. So, Zhavric, the only thing you've accomplished is making a foolish statement that you cannot ever back up.

See? This is what I'm talking about. This is the disingenuous posting I have to put up with. Ariel, the post you're referring to was one series of logical fallacies. This is a debate site. You can't post five paragraphs of unsupported ill logic and declare your critics "close minded" simply because they're not willing to concede 1+1=3.

In the words of Sophia from the film Shortbus, "You're so far behind you think your first."

I'm soooo tired of agnostics and theists referencing thoroughly debunked arguments as though they're valid. That's why I made this thread; so folks can understand that I am made of win.

[Zhavric]

Quote by: Praxius If your debating was so good, you shouldn't need to start a thread proclaiming your all mighty omnipotence. The debate should speak for itself and others will determine if you are what you say you are..... and if it doesn't matter what others think of you, then why did you make this post? *Starts making a Lecter brain plate as he digs deeper into Z'z mind.....* *image is of course fake and created in Maya, quite well I might add* So tell me now Zhavric, and be honest...... did this silence your goats? Did your mommy and daddy kill them while you were reading the bible? Is this hatred and seeking of omnipotence due to your love for those goats and the affection and bond that you all had when you were young and free? Tell me truly.... is this really you not believing in God, or is this just deep emotional hatred towards humanity for taking away your love goats because they couldn't produce good cheese anymore? Now I wonder why that occured? Perhaps you could shed some light on the subject for all of us here Zhavric....... has this winning the debate silenced your goats?

ROFLMAO

Good one.

As an off-topic aside, I love how every other debator on internet message boards thinks they're Hannibal Lector when they get into a flame fest... as though reading words on a screen gives someone insight into the inner workings of their minds. lol Even in The Silence of the Lambs, Lector has to ask Starling for details about her life to really get into her head.

[Zhavric]

Quote by: Alive You still lack a fundamental understanding of how logic and science works.

*sigh* Some people just don't get when they've lost the race.

[Zhavric]

Quote by: The Dunedan Then WHY is he still HERE?!

LOL

Thanks for letting me in your head.