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Jimmy the Pro · Jun 10, 2007, 01:24 pm

Anyone done anything with the paranormal? Maybe played with a Ouija board? Recorded an EVP? Lived in a haunted house? Or just plain see a ghost?

I'm very very interested in the paranormal, so if any members have had any out of this world experiences, please, do tell. :)

Technosoul · Jun 10, 2007, 02:22 pm

In the 1980s I used to have my own webpage called "Paranomral Perspectives". And in it I created what was a "on line" Spirit School and each classroom was a link to some site that delt with a paranormal topic or that contianed alternative thinking topics. There for I know about the topics you find interesting. At the time was involved in a chat room at Spiritweb which was set up for new agers and all the "non-mainstream" religions to get together on line. Spiritweb no longer has a chat room or forums. At my webpage I coined a word called the "Extra-reality Experience" for paranomal incidents.

arielmessenger · Jun 10, 2007, 02:30 pm

I use and have used the I Ching method of inducing paranormal experience to learn more about existing events and to predict future ones as well. When I am centered the system works very well.

Also, I am guided in my spiritual work by synchronicity events as "signs" from God confirming or adding information that I have received previously as mental epiphanies.

Hmm · Jun 10, 2007, 06:38 pm

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I use and have used the I Ching method of inducing paranormal experience to learn more about existing events and to predict future ones as well. When I am centered the system works very well.

Also, I am guided in my spiritual work by synchronicity events as "signs" from God confirming or adding information that I have received previously as mental epiphanies.

Oh? Would you so kindly make a prediction for us in the near future?

arielmessenger · Jun 10, 2007, 07:15 pm

arielmessenger · Jun 10, 2007, 07:18 pm

this day will end and the sun will rise tomorrow.

arielmessenger · Jun 10, 2007, 07:20 pm

Ask a Volconvo question and let's see what the I Ching says.

Lullaby Chainer · Jun 10, 2007, 07:21 pm

What am I going to say in my next post?

(it's already typed up right now.. so don't worry about me changing it to make you wrong, I'm honest)

Yasa · Jun 10, 2007, 08:37 pm

I wish I could believe in such paranormalities... the world would be such a cooler place.

Jimmy the Pro · Jun 10, 2007, 11:21 pm

Lol, I'd say go for believing in it, you might surprise yourself.

Jubloz · Jun 11, 2007, 12:38 am

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I wish I could believe in such paranormalities... the world would be such a cooler place.

Depends on what paranormal events occurred. I wouldn't be too cool with anything living under my bed. :eek: I'd be up for telekinesis though!

Yasa · Jun 11, 2007, 01:05 am

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Depends on what paranormal events occurred. I wouldn't be too cool with anything living under my bed. :eek: I'd be up for telekinesis though!

toucher. but even then, things under the bed!! zomg cool

Jubloz · Jun 11, 2007, 01:09 am

I've always thought it would be fun to check out a UFO cult. Apparently there's a conspiracy theory UFO museum thing about an hour's drive from here, I've been considering checking it out. 't would be a different experience.

Jimmy the Pro · Jun 11, 2007, 11:52 am

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I've always thought it would be fun to check out a UFO cult. Apparently there's a conspiracy theory UFO museum thing about an hour's drive from here, I've been considering checking it out. 't would be a different experience.

The UFO hotline has my name on file. :eek:

Hmm · Jun 11, 2007, 02:24 pm

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this day will end and the sun will rise tomorrow.

How very... profound.

arielmessenger · Jun 11, 2007, 03:26 pm

I got Hexagram 15, Modesty, with the changing line in the third place. (Bollinger edition of I Ching)

Here's the text of that changing line:

"Nine in the third place means:

A superior man of modesty and merit carries thing to conclusion.
Good fortune."

This is the center of the hexagram, where its secret is disclosed. A distinguished name is readily earned by great achievements. If a man allows himself to be dazzled by fame, he will soon be criticized, and difficulties will arise. If, on the contrary, he remains modest despite his merits, he makes himself beloved and wins the support necessary for carrying his work through to conclusion."

From the Commentaries--

Nine in the third place:

a) A superior man of modesty and merit carries things to conclusion. Good fortune.

b) A superior man of modesty and merit-all the people obey him.

Ken, mountain, is the trigram in which end and beginning meet. This line is at the top of Ken, and form this comes the idea of effort leading to achievement. The three upper lines belong to the trigram K'un, which means the masses and devotion. The yang line in the third place is the third line of the trigram Ch'ien, the Creative, distinguished likewise by indefatigable effort. The Master said: (Confucius)

When a man does not boast of his efforts and does not count his merits a virtue, he is a man of great parts. It means that for all his merits he subordinates himself to other.; Noble of nature, reverent in his conduct, the modest man is full of merit, and therefore he is able to maintain his position."

arielmessenger · Jun 11, 2007, 03:36 pm

I don't know if the I Ching's talking about you or me. I mean I'd like to see myself in that picture of modesty but it's not there--I can't keep my big mouth shut about the REALLY IMPORTANT stuff little ol' me is doing.

While I did say I use the I Ching often to consult what's going to happen next or what's going on hidden in a situation, but I didn't say it always worked. Sometimes I can't figure the dang readings out at all and sometimes I know I'm messing up the reading by projecting my own agenda issues into it.

Now that I've weaseled out of fortune teller accuracy, I mean, it's taboo for Abrahamics

I would like to see what your post was..

improvident · Jun 11, 2007, 06:53 pm

I Ching? please.. tell me more?

Jimmy the Pro · Jun 11, 2007, 09:31 pm

Lol, im looking forward to having a good old fashion Ouija board session soon!

Hip hip horray for Ouija!

arielmessenger · Jun 11, 2007, 09:33 pm

"The I Ching (often spelled as I Jing, Yi Ching, Yi King, or Yi Jing; also called "Book of Changes" or "Classic of Changes") is the oldest of the Chinese classic texts. A symbol system designed to identify order in what seem like chance events, it describes an ancient system of cosmology and philosophy that is at the heart of Chinese cultural beliefs. The philosophy centers on the ideas of the dynamic balance of opposites, the evolution of events as a process, and acceptance of the inevitability of change (see Philosophy, below). In Western cultures, the I Ching is regarded by some as simply a system of divination; many believe it expresses the wisdom and philosophy of ancient China.

The book consists of a series of symbols, rules for manipulating these symbols, poems, and commentary."

Jun 10, 2007, 01:24 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Jimmy the Pro Ready to Rok Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,932	The Paranormal Page Anyone done anything with the paranormal? Maybe played with a Ouija board? Recorded an EVP? Lived in a haunted house? Or just plain see a ghost? I'm very very interested in the paranormal, so if any members have had any out of this world experiences, please, do tell. :) "I believe Christianity as I believe the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else." -C.S. Lewis-

Jun 10, 2007, 02:30 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
arielmessenger BANNED Posts: 701	Like most shamans I use paranormal means to foretell future events I use and have used the I Ching method of inducing paranormal experience to learn more about existing events and to predict future ones as well. When I am centered the system works very well. Also, I am guided in my spiritual work by synchronicity events as "signs" from God confirming or adding information that I have received previously as mental epiphanies.

Jun 10, 2007, 07:15 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
arielmessenger BANNED Posts: 701	Sure :):)

Jun 10, 2007, 07:18 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
arielmessenger BANNED Posts: 701	I Predict this day will end and the sun will rise tomorrow.

Jun 10, 2007, 07:20 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
arielmessenger BANNED Posts: 701	Just kidding.. Ask a Volconvo question and let's see what the I Ching says.

Jun 10, 2007, 02:22 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,936	In the 1980s I used to have my own webpage called "Paranomral Perspectives". And in it I created what was a "on line" Spirit School and each classroom was a link to some site that delt with a paranormal topic or that contianed alternative thinking topics. There for I know about the topics you find interesting. At the time was involved in a chat room at Spiritweb which was set up for new agers and all the "non-mainstream" religions to get together on line. Spiritweb no longer has a chat room or forums. At my webpage I coined a word called the "Extra-reality Experience" for paranomal incidents.

Jun 10, 2007, 07:21 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Lullaby Chainer Posts: 3,018	What am I going to say in my next post? (it's already typed up right now.. so don't worry about me changing it to make you wrong, I'm honest) *Powerful.. magical.. e-e-e-eevil..*

Jun 10, 2007, 08:37 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
Yasa Spiral Out Location: Canada Posts: 514	I wish I could believe in such paranormalities... the world would be such a cooler place. Praying for tidal waves. Learn to swim.

Jun 10, 2007, 11:21 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Jimmy the Pro Ready to Rok Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,932	Lol, I'd say go for believing in it, you might surprise yourself. "I believe Christianity as I believe the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else." -C.S. Lewis-

Jun 11, 2007, 01:09 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
Jubloz Zolbuj Location: California Posts: 1,267	I've always thought it would be fun to check out a UFO cult. Apparently there's a conspiracy theory UFO museum thing about an hour's drive from here, I've been considering checking it out. 't would be a different experience. "Iron rusts from disuse; water loses its purity from stagnation... even so does inaction sap the vigor of the mind. " - Da Vinci

Jun 11, 2007, 03:26 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
arielmessenger BANNED Posts: 701	I Ching's response to Lullaby Chainer's question I got Hexagram 15, Modesty, with the changing line in the third place. (Bollinger edition of I Ching) Here's the text of that changing line: "Nine in the third place means: A superior man of modesty and merit carries thing to conclusion. Good fortune." This is the center of the hexagram, where its secret is disclosed. A distinguished name is readily earned by great achievements. If a man allows himself to be dazzled by fame, he will soon be criticized, and difficulties will arise. If, on the contrary, he remains modest despite his merits, he makes himself beloved and wins the support necessary for carrying his work through to conclusion." From the Commentaries-- Nine in the third place: a) A superior man of modesty and merit carries things to conclusion. Good fortune. b) A superior man of modesty and merit-all the people obey him. Ken, mountain, is the trigram in which end and beginning meet. This line is at the top of Ken, and form this comes the idea of effort leading to achievement. The three upper lines belong to the trigram K'un, which means the masses and devotion. The yang line in the third place is the third line of the trigram Ch'ien, the Creative, distinguished likewise by indefatigable effort. The Master said: (Confucius) When a man does not boast of his efforts and does not count his merits a virtue, he is a man of great parts. It means that for all his merits he subordinates himself to other.; Noble of nature, reverent in his conduct, the modest man is full of merit, and therefore he is able to maintain his position."

Jun 11, 2007, 03:36 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
arielmessenger BANNED Posts: 701	And you expect me to figure this out? I don't know if the I Ching's talking about you or me. I mean I'd like to see myself in that picture of modesty but it's not there--I can't keep my big mouth shut about the REALLY IMPORTANT stuff little ol' me is doing. While I did say I use the I Ching often to consult what's going to happen next or what's going on hidden in a situation, but I didn't say it always worked. Sometimes I can't figure the dang readings out at all and sometimes I know I'm messing up the reading by projecting my own agenda issues into it. Now that I've weaseled out of fortune teller accuracy, I mean, it's taboo for Abrahamics I would like to see what your post was..

Jun 11, 2007, 06:53 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
improvident Igneous Magma Location: Tennessee Posts: 213	I Ching? please.. tell me more? You Can't Understand A User's Mind But Try, With Your Books And Degrees If You Let Yourself Go And Open Your Mind I'll Bet You'd Be Doing Like Me And It Ain't So Bad -Alice in Chains : Junkhead

Jun 11, 2007, 09:31 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
Jimmy the Pro Ready to Rok Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,932	Lol, im looking forward to having a good old fashion Ouija board session soon! Hip hip horray for Ouija! "I believe Christianity as I believe the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else." -C.S. Lewis-

Jun 11, 2007, 09:33 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
arielmessenger BANNED Posts: 701	I Ching--Wikipedia "The I Ching (often spelled as I Jing, Yi Ching, Yi King, or Yi Jing; also called "Book of Changes" or "Classic of Changes") is the oldest of the Chinese classic texts. A symbol system designed to identify order in what seem like chance events, it describes an ancient system of cosmology and philosophy that is at the heart of Chinese cultural beliefs. The philosophy centers on the ideas of the dynamic balance of opposites, the evolution of events as a process, and acceptance of the inevitability of change (see Philosophy, below). In Western cultures, the I Ching is regarded by some as simply a system of divination; many believe it expresses the wisdom and philosophy of ancient China. The book consists of a series of symbols, rules for manipulating these symbols, poems, and commentary."