The Paranormal Page

[arielmessenger]

the cleverest way any civilization's figured out to get both spiritual contact with the Divinity and very wise and ethical rules of social order together in one bundle that becomes attractive to many because of it's fortune-telling ability.

Can't find a better succinct book of statecraft wisdom and you learn it by repetition as you seek guidance for solving all sorts of personal problems from Signs and patterns in random events indicating our world runs on more than random chance occurrence.

:eek::eek::eek:

[Jubloz]

Quote by: Yasa but even then, things under the bed!! zomg cool

I dunno, I hear the boogie man smells pretty nasty, something tells me that a boogie man under the bed would promote celibacy. Then again, that might be preferable for some Volconvo members.

[Technosoul]

The I ching takes on amazing results when you see it as a three dimensional model. Instead of flat.

This allows for different dimensions of time relative to historical events.

One product of that three dimensional model was developed by Terrence MeKenna. He prepared software for a computer programed with major historical events, the big events had peaks in the graph and at other times not much was happening historically. As history repeats it's self along the graph you get a pattern of the circluar nature of those repeating events. As historical time progresses those events happen closer and closer together and last for shorter times (in years).

Using the software we can predict (it will predict) when the next event will happen, which can be done long range or within shorter times (a month form now -etc.). It does not predict just what the event will be only that it is due to happen. The computer projected events up to 2012 and following that it predicts no more major peaks on the graph.

[Technosoul]

IMANIAC,

Now I will predict your next post in repley to this one.

I predict you will write that my prediction is in error or that you will suggest in some way that I did not predict what you are writing in your next post to me this prediction.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Jubloz I dunno, I hear the boogie man smells pretty nasty, something tells me that a boogie man under the bed would promote celibacy. Then again, that might be preferable for some Volconvo members.

People often misstake fear born fantasy for actural paranormal events.

[Pandora's Box]

I don't know what this would be called, perhaps just intuition, but I would like to hear what you guys think.

When I was growing up I used to live in a house where my bedroom was in the attic. For some odd reason one night, I had awoken from a peacful sleep because something just didn't feel right. I tried to fall back asleep but I couldn't. I decided to get up out of bed and, for no apparent reason, went to the basement, this was at 2:30 in the morning. When I got there I found my younger brother sitting in the corner watching a horror movie having to do with the spiritual realm. Okay, I can't even hear the TV from my old bedroom in the attic. Strange... I told him to turn it off and after he did I was able to sleep.

Okay, I don't know what the flip that was all about, but I never forgot it. It was just odd. Like I said, perhaps it was just intuiton or maybe I had one too many cookies or something before I went to sleep.

Also, that I Ching thing sounds interesting...

[Jubloz]

Quote by: Technosoul People often misstake fear born fantasy for actural paranormal events.

What is an actual paranormal event? Sounds a lot like a fear born fantasy to me.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Pandora's Box I don't know what this would be called, perhaps just intuition, but I would like to hear what you guys think. When I was growing up I used to live in a house where my bedroom was in the attic. For some odd reason one night, I had awoken from a peacful sleep because something just didn't feel right. I tried to fall back asleep but I couldn't. I decided to get up out of bed and, for no apparent reason, went to the basement, this was at 2:30 in the morning. When I got there I found my younger brother sitting in the corner watching a horror movie having to do with the spiritual realm. Okay, I can't even hear the TV from my old bedroom in the attic. Strange... I told him to turn it off and after he did I was able to sleep. Okay, I don't know what the flip that was all about, but I never forgot it. It was just odd. Like I said, perhaps it was just intuiton or maybe I had one too many cookies or something before I went to sleep. Also, that I Ching thing sounds interesting...

Although I find it unexplainable parts of our mind and body are not alseep and those senses can awaken us when we need to take care of something like you did.

I had an odd dream a few nights ago following some events of the day before. On that day I looked out the window and they were packing up our trashcans in a truck, my wife forgot to pay the bill. Then I turned on this labtop to go on-line and the Yahoo page did not appear. All day I was without use of the internet and when my son got home he tried to fix it but without success, we assumed we forgot to pay that bill also and they turned off the services. In the middle of the night I had a dream and this voice (sounded like my wife) said "hey, the computers are back on". I knew the dream was triggered by the events of the day before so I did not take much notice, but it was odd that the dream woke me up, and that I remembered the dream the next morning. That go me wondering so I turned the labtop back on... and bingo .... it was working fine. For some unexplainable reason that dream told me that the computer was working agian. However Monday I must pay my trash collection bill - but they goofed and left me one trash can that they did not see because it was on out on the crub.

[Jubloz]

Techno, it just sounds like your internet went down and came back up; I think you're guilty of trying to make something suspicious that isn't.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Jubloz What is an actual paranormal event? Sounds a lot like a fear born fantasy to me.

A boogie man under the bed is a fantasy, but the kid has fears for some other logical reason, which have not been delt with properly. Or perhaps he had watched a boogie man movie in the basement - etc.

Para means "along side of" our normal perceptions of reality. It sort of means there are two dimensions happening at the same time but we only see the normal one for this dimension, on a rare occation some people claim to see something happening in the para-dimensions next to this one. Perhaps something like a ghost, which might scare the person if they did not expect something like that to happen. But not all paranormal events are scary, you might sense a guradian angel for example, or the spirits of nature, or a group of people might witness a image of Mother Mary sitting on top of a chruch. Very strange indeed, unexplainable in that proof is not possible, only some explaination based on phycology or symbalisms the mind encounters by projecting thoughts for the mind to see.

Such experiences can happen to normal people who have no pychological problems and who are not insane. The experience might be a short "one-time" event, and the rest of the time the person never sees such oddities again, and continues to live a normal life.

For example, around you is an arua of colored light that no one can see, (with exception of a few people with extra-perceptonal abilities). If I saw your "halo" it would freak me out because that is not normal for me to see such things. For me that would be a paranormal event. However they now have special cameras that can photograph that arua of light surrounding an individual. Thanks to modern science we can see what colors our arua of light is illuminating with that camera, proving the existance of that paranormal halo of light.

[Jubloz]

Quote by: Technosoul Para means "along side of" our normal perceptions of reality. It sort of means there are two dimensions happening at the same time but we only see the normal one for this dimension, on a rare occation some people claim to see something happening in the para-dimensions next to this one. Perhaps something like a ghost, which might scare the person if they did not expect something like that to happen. But not all paranormal events are scary, you might sense a guradian angel for example, or the spirits of nature, or a group of people might witness a image of Mother Mary sitting on top of a chruch. Very strange indeed, unexplainable in that proof is not possible, only some explaination based on phycology or symbalisms the mind encounters by projecting thoughts for the mind to see.

It's also called pseudoscience. And the placebo effect. And even the nocebo effect. You're probably either being paranoid and convincing yourself that something is real when it isn't, or you aren't understanding what you're seeing and you're jumping to an incorrect hypothesis to explain it.

Quote by: Technosoul For example, around you is an arua of colored light that no one can see, (with exception of a few people with extra-perceptonal abilities). If I saw your "halo" it would freak me out because that is not normal for me to see such things. For me that would be a paranormal event. However they now have special cameras that can photograph that arua of light surrounding an individual. Thanks to modern science we can see what colors our arua of light is illuminating with that camera, proving the existance of that paranormal halo of light.

Well, first off, we basically are light. Everything you look at is light. You're trying to explain pseudoscience ideologies with real science to back what you want to be true. Please, prove me wrong, link an article that proves that there are special people that can see wavelengths of light that the rest of us can't. Better yet, link a reliable article that shows that there is some "special paranormal halo of light".

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Jubloz It's also called pseudoscience. And the placebo effect. And even the nocebo effect. You're probably either being paranoid and convincing yourself that something is real when it isn't, or you aren't understanding what you're seeing and you're jumping to an incorrect hypothesis to explain it. Well, first off, we basically are light. Everything you look at is light. You're trying to explain pseudoscience ideologies with real science to back what you want to be true. Please, prove me wrong, link an article that proves that there are special people that can see wavelengths of light that the rest of us can't. Better yet, link a reliable article that shows that there is some "special paranormal halo of light".

Here is the first link I found and I am not sure if it proves or disproves the idea I referred too. Ledbeater (mentioned in the article) wrote the first book about the halo colors he observed surrounding people, years and years later someone invented a camera that photographs those aruas and getting your photo made by someone with such a camera was a fad in the in the 1990s. (see link provided below).

Science as you know can take photos of earth (from outerspace) and all you see are colors, which they can interpret to gain knowledge about earth. More or less based on the same technology. (not part of the link provided below)

I do not know why ancient painters would put halos around the heads of saints and not everyone else.

Auras and Aura Photography - Is it real? by Prof. Carl Edwin Lindgren

No doubt you would call it phoney science.

The computer went down because of a actural problem with the service I used or at Yahoo, then came back up. I did not think that, nor wish to suggest that, something paranormal happened to the computer, (did not mention Gremlins or that I gave one something to drink). But waking up to a dream that told me the computer was back on line is unusual. Which has nothing to do with being paranoid or with boogie men.

I am not sitting around making up stuff. Want links - I've got 'em for most things I use as proof.

[Jubloz]

Thanks for the article, I'll read it as soon as I can (I'm back at school; time restraints and all that). I'll be sure to write up a response when I do.

As far as the religious halo thing, I'm not sure how that originated. What's sort of cool is that horns, now purely associated with Lucifer, used to be put on 'good' religious figures. When I was traveling through Italy I had a chance to see a number of Michaelangelo's statues and a surprising amount of them had horns protruding out from their skulls. I wonder when horns ceased to be angelic and become purely demonic?

[improvident]

Well, first off, we basically are light. Everything you look at is light. You're trying to explain pseudoscience ideologies with real science to back what you want to be true. Please, prove me wrong, link an article that proves that there are special people that can see wavelengths of light that the rest of us can't. Better yet, link a reliable article that shows that there is some "special paranormal halo of light".

Everyone has the ability to see auras..we just dont use the ability..

Aura - Learn to see your Aura image with your own eyes

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Jubloz Thanks for the article, I'll read it as soon as I can (I'm back at school; time restraints and all that). I'll be sure to write up a response when I do. As far as the religious halo thing, I'm not sure how that originated. What's sort of cool is that horns, now purely associated with Lucifer, used to be put on 'good' religious figures. When I was traveling through Italy I had a chance to see a number of Michaelangelo's statues and a surprising amount of them had horns protruding out from their skulls. I wonder when horns ceased to be angelic and become purely demonic?

It my be symbolic like the hat of a king with those little points. A crown,

Or symbolic of something to do with anicent astology. Each halo behind the head of a person would represent the planet, moon, or star that they are assigned to be linked too per a religious concept. This is hard for me to acturally explain with my limited knowledge of ancient knowledge or belief.

Now in the book of revelations John wrote about the 7 headed beast with 10 horns. How do you get ten horns on seven heads, well mathamatically if you put a pair (two horns) on each head, then two heads would be hornless and five heads would have the horns. That is an important clue because he had written letters to the 7 churches and he repremanded 5 of the churches and did not repremand the other 2.
So the 7 headed beast are the 7 churches. Re: the Chirstian religion and at that time 2 were hornless and the other 5 were horny. Which he then mystically linked the emergence of the Anti-Christ within the chruches. RE: the crusades that would result due to chruch becoming the Beast.

Now the halo crowns were numbered the 10 kingdoms which are the 10 objects making up our solar system. Counting in from pluto the earth is the 7th planet, in knowing that rather then thinking of earth as the 3rd rock from the sun, such dogmas or illustrations start to make more sense.