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PatrickHenry · Jun 6, 2004, 01:38 pm

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Originally posted by castille,
No, you dont have to honour the dead. However, the least you can do is show respect. Did Reagen personally rape you and murder your family? No? Then there is no reason to spit on his grave.

This from one who honors Mao.

castille · Jun 6, 2004, 01:55 pm

Yes I honour Mao, he united China and kicked out the foreign exploiters. He did some shit things in his lifetime, but not all men are saints.

Do you have a problem with that, Armchair President?

dotcoma · Jun 6, 2004, 02:56 pm

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Originally posted by castille,
Yes I honour Mao, he united China and kicked out the foreign exploiters. He did some shit things in his lifetime, but not all men are saints.

Do you have a problem with that, Armchair President?

Yeah, united them under a Godless totalitarian state that is in the Guiness Book of World Records for biggest mass murderer. Almost 100 million killed. United?

castille · Jun 7, 2004, 12:01 am

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Originally posted by roxdog,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (roxdog,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-castille,
Yes I honour Mao, he united China and kicked out the foreign exploiters. He did some shit things in his lifetime, but not all men are saints.

Do you have a problem with that, Armchair President?

Yeah, united them under a Godless totalitarian state that is in the Guiness Book of World Records for biggest mass murderer. Almost 100 million killed. United?[/b][/quote]

Where? Can you show me the entry under the Guiness Book of World Records? Which page? Which edition?

By the way, we ARE Godless! Yes, China is not Christian. And no, we're not all going to burn in hell.

Anything else?

dotcoma · Jun 7, 2004, 12:22 pm

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Where? Can you show me the entry under the Guiness Book of World Records? Which page? Which edition?

Actually, Castille, it's in all of them (since the 80s). Under: "Crime: Mass Killings."

"In July 1971, the U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary published the Walker Report. It put the total number of dead somewhere between 32,250,000 and 61,700,000."

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By the way, we ARE Godless

You and Mao might be godless, but you guys don't speak for the 32,250,000 -61,700,000 OR anybody else for that matter.

castille · Jun 8, 2004, 06:09 am

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Originally posted by roxdog,

Actually, Castille, it's in all of them (since the 80s). Under: "Crime: Mass Killings."

"In July 1971, the U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary published the Walker Report. It put the total number of dead somewhere between 32,250,000 and 61,700,000."

An American "intelligence" report published in the 70s doesn't constitute proof. In fact, I'd imagine it's far from proof. I suppose you also believe everything that comes from the American government.

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You and Mao might be godless, but you guys don't speak for the 32,250,000 -61,700,000 OR anybody else for that matter.

Well Mr Spanish Inquisitor, if you look at ANY reliable resouce, you'll find China is not a Christian nation. Sorry but not everyone in the world is Christian, as much as you wish for it.

dotcoma · Jun 8, 2004, 01:21 pm

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you'll find China is not a Christian nation.

Yes, I know. I've actually met a priest that had his legs, um, removed, by the Chinese govt...and It's not just the Walker Report, it's about a thousand other sources as well....

castille · Jun 9, 2004, 04:42 am

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Originally posted by roxdog,

Yes, I know. I've actually met a priest that had his legs, um, removed, by the Chinese govt...and It's not just the Walker Report, it's about a thousand other sources as well....

Kinda reminds you of the millions of people tortured, persecuted, executed, and enslaved by the Christian priests, eh?

By the way, how did the priest without any legs go from China to America? Did he use his magical powers?

Can you name the other "thousand sources"? Or are they also made up too?

Mia · Jun 9, 2004, 06:28 am

Castille, Rox has a point. Who is the "we" in "we are Godless?" You don't speak for all your citizens, many of whom believe in religions not allowed by your government.

Do you agree with the restriction on unapproved religion? The methods to punish offenders?

What Christian nation tortures people like that?

"Kinda reminds you of the millions of people tortured, persecuted, executed, and enslaved by the Christian priests, eh?"

What are you referring to here?

"By the way, how did the priest without any legs go from China to America? Did he use his magical powers?"

People without legs can't ride on airplanes? :rolleyes:

Compugasm · Jun 9, 2004, 10:35 am

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Originally posted by castille
how did the priest without any legs go from China to America?

He swam.

castille · Jun 9, 2004, 01:29 pm

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Originally posted by Mia,
Castille, Rox has a point. Who is the "we" in "we are Godless?" You don't speak for all your citizens, many of whom believe in religions not allowed by your government.

The majority of China is not Christian. By "God", you refer to Christianity. Thus I can safely say, only a small minority of Asia (excludes Phillipines) is Christian.

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Do you agree with the restriction on unapproved religion? The methods to punish offenders?

The only restrictions is that all Churches have to be registered. I think it works the same in the US.

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What Christian nation tortures people like that?

Spain, Portagual, England, Poland, Hamburg, Austria, Ireland, Scotland.

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"By the way, how did the priest without any legs go from China to America? Did he use his magical powers?"
People without legs can't ride on airplanes? :rolleyes:

So how exactly did a priest with no legs (I assume the Chinese government removed them?) escape from a heavily-fortified prison, get on a plane, and flee to the United States? Was his name Houdini Junior?

Suburbanite · Jun 10, 2004, 04:47 am

only beef I have with Mao is Eastern Turkistan, well, that and other things, so I guess it isn't the only beef.

PatrickHenry · Jun 10, 2004, 05:10 am

You mean these guys? http://www.uygur.org/
I figured you for somebody who doesn't give a sh-t.

Mia · Jun 10, 2004, 07:54 am

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Originally posted by castille,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (castille,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
The majority of China is not Christian. By "God", you refer to Christianity. Thus I can safely say, only a small minority of Asia (excludes Phillipines) is Christian.

God, Allah, the Jewish name for Him - it's the same God, so no I'm not referring only to Christianity. As far as %, that is irrelevant. The fact that the ones who believe and want to practice but cannot is adhorrent.

The only restrictions is that all Churches have to be registered. I think it works the same in the US.

So a Christian Muslim or Jew can go to a "registered" church, mosque, or temple and not be persecuted? This doesn't match with my reading - please prove this.

Spain, Portagual, England, Poland, Hamburg, Austria, Ireland, Scotland.

Do these countries torture those who practice any religions? Please cite sources.

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"By the way, how did the priest without any legs go from China to America? Did he use his magical powers?"
People without legs can't ride on airplanes? :rolleyes:

So how exactly did a priest with no legs (I assume the Chinese government removed them?) escape from a heavily-fortified prison, get on a plane, and flee to the United States? Was his name Houdini Junior?[/b]

I have no idea. I didn't reference the story, I just asked a question.

<!--QuoteBegin-PatrickHenry,
You mean these guys? http://www.uygur.org/

I figured you for somebody who doesn't give a sh-t.[/quote]
I do believe he stated that he doesn't, so you're not just figuring

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dotcoma · Jun 10, 2004, 02:22 pm

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Spain, Portagual, England, Poland, Hamburg, Austria, Ireland, Scotland

I'm in the 20th century not in the middle ages.

dotcoma · Jun 10, 2004, 03:08 pm

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So how exactly did a priest with no legs (I assume the Chinese government removed them?) escape from a heavily-fortified prison, get on a plane, and flee to the United States?

This is ridiculous. Did I say I met him in the US?

castille · Jun 12, 2004, 10:35 am

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Originally posted by roxdog,

This is ridiculous. Did I say I met him in the US?

Judging by your answer, you obviously made him up. Do you want to share any more of your magical friends with me?

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only beef I have with Mao is Eastern Turkistan

Theres plenty of resistance movements demanding independence around the globe. India has Assam, Punjab, and Kashmir. Spain has those ETA groups demanding independence. Britain has North Ireland, Gilbraltar, and Scotland. France has New Caledonia. Russia's got their Chechyens.

Resistance movements are nothing new. If you support East Turkistan indepedence, then you should support every independence movement in the world.

PatrickHenry · Jun 12, 2004, 12:55 pm

US has Hawaii. Independence now.

dotcoma · Jun 12, 2004, 01:06 pm

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Judging by your answer, you obviously made him up. Do you want to share any more of your magical friends with me?

Excuse me?

dotcoma · Jun 12, 2004, 01:07 pm

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Resistance movements are nothing new. If you support East Turkistan indepedence, then you should support every independence movement in the world.

Oh, that makes sense.

Jun 6, 2004, 01:55 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	Yes I honour Mao, he united China and kicked out the foreign exploiters. He did some shit things in his lifetime, but not all men are saints. Do you have a problem with that, Armchair President? Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Jun 9, 2004, 06:28 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Castille, Rox has a point. Who is the "we" in "we are Godless?" You don't speak for all your citizens, many of whom believe in religions not allowed by your government. Do you agree with the restriction on unapproved religion? The methods to punish offenders? What Christian nation tortures people like that? "Kinda reminds you of the millions of people tortured, persecuted, executed, and enslaved by the Christian priests, eh?" What are you referring to here? "By the way, how did the priest without any legs go from China to America? Did he use his magical powers?" People without legs can't ride on airplanes? :rolleyes: "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Jun 10, 2004, 05:10 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,453	You mean these guys? http://www.uygur.org/ I figured you for somebody who doesn't give a sh-t. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Jun 12, 2004, 12:55 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,453	US has Hawaii. Independence now. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Jun 10, 2004, 04:47 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	only beef I have with Mao is Eastern Turkistan, well, that and other things, so I guess it isn't the only beef.