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Mia · May 29, 2004, 04:58 pm

Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?

A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction.

Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction.

A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.

Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?

A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.

Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass destruction, did we?

A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election.

Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?

A: To use them in a war, silly.

Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to war with them?

A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend themselves.

Q: That doesn't make sense. Why would they choose to die if they had all those big weapons with which they could have fought back?

A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.

Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those weapons our government said they did.

A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway.

Q: And what was that?

A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another country.

Q:Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his country?

A:Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.

Q:Kind of like what they do in China?

Aon't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer.

Q:So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people?

A:Right.

Q:Why were people in Iraq being tortured?

A:For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured.

Q:Isn't that exactly what happens in China?

A:I told you, China is different.

Q:What's the difference between China and Iraq?

A:Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Saddam’s regime, while China is Communist.

Qidn't you once tell me Communists were bad?

A:No, just Cuban Communists are bad.

Q:How are the Cuban Communists bad?

A:Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent to prison and tortured.

Q:Like in Iraq?

A:Exactly.

Q:And like in China, too?

A:I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other hand, is not.

Q:How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?

A:Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists like us.

Q:But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become capitalists?

Aon't be a smart-ass.

Q:I didn't think I was being one.

A:Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba.

Q:Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?

A:I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway.

Q:What's a military coup?

A:That's when a military general takes over the government of a country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States.

Qidn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup?

A:You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is our friend.

Q:Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?

A:I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.

Qidn't you just say a military general who comes to power by forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate leader?

A:Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he helped us invade Afghanistan.

Q:Why did we invade Afghanistan?

A:Because of what they did to us on September 11th.

Q:What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?

A:Well, on September 11th, nineteen men - fifteen of them Saudi Arabians - hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings in New York and Washington, killing 3,000 innocent people.

Q:So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?

A:Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive rule of the Taliban.

Q:Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off people's heads and hands?

A:Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.

Qidn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back in May of 2001?

A:Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job fighting drugs.

Q:Fighting drugs?

A:Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing opium poppies.

Q:How did they do such a good job?

A:Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off.

Q:So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for other reasons?

A:Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off people's hands for stealing bread.

Qon't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia?

A:That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not comply.

Qon't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?

A:No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering.

Q:What's the difference?

A:The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers.

Q:It sounds like the same thing with a different name.

A:Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are our friends.

Q:But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia.

A:Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.

Q:Who trained them?

A:A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.

Q:Was he from Afghanistan?

A:Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very bad man.

Q:I seem to recall he was our friend once.

A:Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.

Q:Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald Reagan talked about?

A:There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call them Russians now.

Q:So the Soviets - I mean, the Russians - are now our friends?

A:Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either.

Q:So the French and Germans are evil, too?

A:Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.

Qo we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what we want them to do?

A:No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.

Q:But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?

A:Well, yeah. For a while.

Q:Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?

A:Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him our friend, temporarily.

Q:Why did that make him our friend?

A:Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.

Q:Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?

A:Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked the other way, to show him we were his friend.

Q:So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically becomes our friend?

A:Most of the time, yes.

Q:And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an enemy?

A:Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the better.

Q:Why?

A:Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is a godless unAmerican Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked Iraq?

Q:I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right?

A:Yes.

Q:But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq?

A:Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him what to do.

Q:So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because George W. Bush hears voices in his head?

A:Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night.

Q:Good night, Daddy.

dotcoma · May 29, 2004, 06:13 pm

Mia, that is hysterical.

Mia · May 29, 2004, 06:23 pm

Thanks, I thought so too!

**Pooeypants** · May 29, 2004, 06:40 pm

I remember this joke from a long time ago. Where did you steal it from?

PhanthomOps · May 29, 2004, 07:08 pm

Mia:

Doesn't this belong in the "Politics & Government" section

Mia · May 29, 2004, 07:14 pm

Pooey,

Someone posted it in another website. Sorry, I had no way to credit it.

PO, I assumed it would be labeled spam and moved here if I put it anywhere else.

Suburbanite · May 29, 2004, 10:48 pm

How old is this made up kid? He says "Daddy" but also says "But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia."
What a weird kid.

Mia · Jun 19, 2007, 10:25 pm

I thought this deserved a bump for anyone that hadn't read it before.

Kuldeep · Jun 20, 2007, 05:48 am

Conclusion of the conversation is :

MIGHT IS NOT ONLY RIGHT BUT DESICIVE AS WELL!!!!

Milton Bradley · Jun 20, 2007, 11:43 am

Quote:

Quote by: Kuldeep

Conclusion of the conversation is :

MIGHT IS NOT ONLY RIGHT BUT DESICIVE AS WELL!!!!

Hmm, I would have said that the moral of the story was to ask more questions. ( And attempt to ascertain if the the answer was truthful. )

Kuldeep · Jun 21, 2007, 05:06 am

Quote:

Quote by: Milton Bradley

Hmm, I would have said that the moral of the story was to ask more questions. ( And attempt to ascertain if the the answer was truthful. )

Oh yeh ! After posting, I also felt I should have written "moral of the story" instead of "conclusion of coversation"

Definitely many more questions could have been asked but, I think Daddy must have been tired, otherwise son would have been ready !!

As regards answers, those seems to be thruthful !!!

**Chris** · Jun 22, 2007, 01:30 am

Mia = Necromancer

:)

Mia · Jun 22, 2007, 01:44 am

No! this thread wasn't beaten to death at all. I reject the label.

improvident · Jun 22, 2007, 01:54 am

I lol'd a few times..

Godless Unamerican Commies.. I used to watch alot of the history channel when i was really young.. I thought everyone but us GB and Canada were godless unamerican commies.. and of those 3 1/4 or more of them where godless unamerican hippie commies.. even worse than normal non hippies lol

Nono · Jun 23, 2007, 06:48 am

Could a mod perform a Public Service and fix the spelling in Mia's dialogue?

Mia · Jun 23, 2007, 06:50 am

Do you mean the OP? I didn't write it. Or did I spell badly in my posts?

ETA: Never mind, I see it. I should have run it through a spell-checker when I copied it.

If a mod does that, maybe it could get a better title too.

sdbest · Jun 23, 2007, 07:31 am

...and the tragedy is that it's all true.

Regards
S.

gallo · Jun 23, 2007, 10:54 am

Entertaining, Mia. However, anyone who is interested in more information on the subject should read:

Isikoff, Michael and Corn, David. 2007. Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War. Three Rivers Press, New York. 479 p.

I recommend the 2007 paperback edition rather than the 2006 hardcover. The paperback has an additional chapter on "The Surge and the Scooter Libby Trial." Isn't it interesting that since the invasion of Iraq the Bush administration has been telling us, in spite of the advice of the military commanders, that troop strength is sufficient. Now, suddenly, the answer is a surge in troop numbers. It is also interesting that Bush declared that anyone in his administration who had any part in the Valerie Wilson leak would not work in his administration. Later, when three people we found to have independently leaked the info (Libby, Rove, and Armitage), Bush changed to say that only those convicted of a criminal offense would be fired. Only Libby suffered any consequences, and that was for perjury. Rove is still at the White House. Our President is sure a man of his word, isn't he?

May 29, 2004, 04:58 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq? A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction. Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction. A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them. Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq? A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections. Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass destruction, did we? A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election. Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction? A: To use them in a war, silly. Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to war with them? A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend themselves. Q: That doesn't make sense. Why would they choose to die if they had all those big weapons with which they could have fought back? A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense. Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those weapons our government said they did. A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway. Q: And what was that? A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another country. Q:Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his country? A:Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people. Q:Kind of like what they do in China? Aon't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer. Q:So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people? A:Right. Q:Why were people in Iraq being tortured? A:For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured. Q:Isn't that exactly what happens in China? A:I told you, China is different. Q:What's the difference between China and Iraq? A:Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Saddam’s regime, while China is Communist. Qidn't you once tell me Communists were bad? A:No, just Cuban Communists are bad. Q:How are the Cuban Communists bad? A:Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent to prison and tortured. Q:Like in Iraq? A:Exactly. Q:And like in China, too? A:I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other hand, is not. Q:How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor? A:Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists like us. Q:But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become capitalists? Aon't be a smart-ass. Q:I didn't think I was being one. A:Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba. Q:Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement? A:I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway. Q:What's a military coup? A:That's when a military general takes over the government of a country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States. Qidn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup? A:You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is our friend. Q:Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate? A:I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate. Qidn't you just say a military general who comes to power by forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate leader? A:Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he helped us invade Afghanistan. Q:Why did we invade Afghanistan? A:Because of what they did to us on September 11th. Q:What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th? A:Well, on September 11th, nineteen men - fifteen of them Saudi Arabians - hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings in New York and Washington, killing 3,000 innocent people. Q:So how did Afghanistan figure into all that? A:Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive rule of the Taliban. Q:Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off people's heads and hands? A:Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too. Qidn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back in May of 2001? A:Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job fighting drugs. Q:Fighting drugs? A:Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing opium poppies. Q:How did they do such a good job? A:Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off. Q:So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for other reasons? A:Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off people's hands for stealing bread. Qon't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia? A:That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not comply. Qon't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too? A:No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering. Q:What's the difference? A:The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. Q:It sounds like the same thing with a different name. A:Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are our friends. Q:But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia. A:Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan. Q:Who trained them? A:A very bad man named Osama bin Laden. Q:Was he from Afghanistan? A:Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very bad man. Q:I seem to recall he was our friend once. A:Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s. Q:Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald Reagan talked about? A:There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call them Russians now. Q:So the Soviets - I mean, the Russians - are now our friends? A:Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either. Q:So the French and Germans are evil, too? A:Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast. Qo we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what we want them to do? A:No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade. Q:But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s? A:Well, yeah. For a while. Q:Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then? A:Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him our friend, temporarily. Q:Why did that make him our friend? A:Because at that time, Iran was our enemy. Q:Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds? A:Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked the other way, to show him we were his friend. Q:So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically becomes our friend? A:Most of the time, yes. Q:And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an enemy? A:Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the better. Q:Why? A:Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is a godless unAmerican Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked Iraq? Q:I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right? A:Yes. Q:But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq? A:Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him what to do. Q:So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because George W. Bush hears voices in his head? A:Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night. Q:Good night, Daddy. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

May 29, 2004, 06:23 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Thanks, I thought so too! "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

May 29, 2004, 06:40 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,467	I remember this joke from a long time ago. Where did you steal it from? War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

May 29, 2004, 07:08 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
PhanthomOps Hot Lava Location: Glendale, Queens, New York Posts: 970	Mia: Doesn't this belong in the "Politics & Government" section A Republican - Conservative - PRO-ACTIVE HAWK with compassion For God & Country - To Serve, Defend & Protect Lock & Load - Go In Hot - Praise the Lord & pass the ammunition

May 29, 2004, 07:14 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Pooey, Someone posted it in another website. Sorry, I had no way to credit it. PO, I assumed it would be labeled spam and moved here if I put it anywhere else. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

May 29, 2004, 06:13 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	Mia, that is hysterical.

May 29, 2004, 10:48 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	How old is this made up kid? He says "Daddy" but also says "But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia." What a weird kid.

Jun 19, 2007, 10:25 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	I thought this deserved a bump for anyone that hadn't read it before. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Jun 20, 2007, 05:48 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
Kuldeep Kuldeep Location: Bhopa, M.P, India Posts: 1,634	Conclusion of the conversation is : MIGHT IS NOT ONLY RIGHT BUT DESICIVE AS WELL!!!!

Jun 22, 2007, 01:30 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
Chris Gamma-ray burst Location: Nashville Posts: 6,112	Mia = Necromancer :) Delusion- A persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence. (i.e. religion) Last.fm Blog

Jun 22, 2007, 01:44 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	No! this thread wasn't beaten to death at all. I reject the label. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Jun 22, 2007, 01:54 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
improvident Igneous Magma Location: Tennessee Posts: 213	I lol'd a few times.. Godless Unamerican Commies.. I used to watch alot of the history channel when i was really young.. I thought everyone but us GB and Canada were godless unamerican commies.. and of those 3 1/4 or more of them where godless unamerican hippie commies.. even worse than normal non hippies lol You Can't Understand A User's Mind But Try, With Your Books And Degrees If You Let Yourself Go And Open Your Mind I'll Bet You'd Be Doing Like Me And It Ain't So Bad -Alice in Chains : Junkhead

Jun 23, 2007, 06:48 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
Nono Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 6,443	Could a mod perform a Public Service and fix the spelling in Mia's dialogue? "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne

Jun 23, 2007, 06:50 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Do you mean the OP? I didn't write it. Or did I spell badly in my posts? ETA: Never mind, I see it. I should have run it through a spell-checker when I copied it. If a mod does that, maybe it could get a better title too. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Jun 23, 2007, 07:31 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
sdbest No prisoners! Location: Southern Ontario, Canada Posts: 901	...and the tragedy is that it's all true. Regards S. -- Stephen Best http://www.stephenbest.ca

Jun 23, 2007, 10:54 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
gallo Homo sapiens Posts: 1,737	Entertaining, Mia. However, anyone who is interested in more information on the subject should read: Isikoff, Michael and Corn, David. 2007. Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War. Three Rivers Press, New York. 479 p. I recommend the 2007 paperback edition rather than the 2006 hardcover. The paperback has an additional chapter on "The Surge and the Scooter Libby Trial." Isn't it interesting that since the invasion of Iraq the Bush administration has been telling us, in spite of the advice of the military commanders, that troop strength is sufficient. Now, suddenly, the answer is a surge in troop numbers. It is also interesting that Bush declared that anyone in his administration who had any part in the Valerie Wilson leak would not work in his administration. Later, when three people we found to have independently leaked the info (Libby, Rove, and Armitage), Bush changed to say that only those convicted of a criminal offense would be fired. Only Libby suffered any consequences, and that was for perjury. Rove is still at the White House. Our President is sure a man of his word, isn't he? As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;... --From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli passed unanimously by the Senate 1797