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pam699 · Apr 2, 2007, 11:26 am

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Successive American governments have supported terrorists in many states including Chile, Nicaragua, Iran, Afghanistan, and so on.

so is america a terrorist state and americans terrorists

with the new law about giving material support to terrosts does that mean reagan clinton carter and bush the cia etc should be tried for breaking the law

tinybear · Apr 2, 2007, 01:20 pm

When we supported them, they were freedom fighters, not terrorists. Hey, if they turned into terrorists, we weren't told. We're not terrorists. Nor do we support terrorism. We're the good guys. Always remember that!

pam699 · Apr 2, 2007, 01:30 pm

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Successive American governments have supported terrorists in many states including Chile, Nicaragua, Iran, Afghanistan, and so on.

death squads in Nicaragua, san salvdore supporting the contras assinating allende of chile and supporting the butcher pinochet idi amin saddam with his war against iran the terrorst trianing camp at the -the school of the americas where rednecks are trianed in terroist technques throuhout out south america by your own goverments defintinituions your are terrorists have supproted terrorist then and still now if you are the good guys i would hate to see the devil

pam699 · Apr 2, 2007, 01:54 pm

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A row has also broken out in Washington over whether to "unleash" the military wing of the Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK), an Iraq-based Iranian opposition group with a long and bloody history of armed opposition to the Iranian regime.

The group is currently listed by the US state department as terrorist organisation, but Mr Pike said : "A faction in the Defence Department wants to unleash them. They could never overthrow the current Iranian regime but they might cause a lot of damage."

http:/www.cawa.fr/us-funds-terror-gr...cle001000.html
by your own state department you support terrosrist your own goverment defines as terrorists so america is a terrorist state by your own standards the good guys are terrorists-i would hate to see the devil

you cant say they are freedom fighters and the good guys can do what they want to the bad guys by your own goverments admision you support the bad guy ie terroists which makes you a bad guy -if terrorists are bad

tinybear · Apr 2, 2007, 02:03 pm

Once those terrorists help us (i.e. the good guys), they become reformed (ex-)terrorists. So in other words, they have repented on their terrorist ways. It's OK to support them then, 'cos they're no longer bad guys. Get it?

pam699 · Apr 2, 2007, 02:16 pm

hey have u not got eyes cant you see
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The group is currently listed by the US state department as terrorist organisation, but Mr Pike said : "A faction in the Defence Department wants to unleash them. They could never overthrow the current Iranian regime but they might cause a lot of damage."

it says you support a state department defined terrorist group not reformed not ex but current terrorsit group if you cant read then dont bother crapping on with your drible

tinybear · Apr 2, 2007, 02:20 pm

It says a row has broken out in the State Department. That means we haven't decided yet. We won't use these guys until they are reformed. Get it?

Hmm · Apr 3, 2007, 03:31 pm

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When we supported them, they were freedom fighters, not terrorists. Hey, if they turned into terrorists, we weren't told. We're not terrorists. Nor do we support terrorism. We're the good guys. Always remember that!

Why do you continually state that the United States are the "good guys?"

Are you that full of national pride so as to not admit your country's mistakes? Or are you simply brainwashed?

tinybear · Apr 4, 2007, 12:51 am

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Why do you continually state that the United States are the "good guys?"

Are you that full of national pride so as to not admit your country's mistakes? Or are you simply brainwashed?

We make mistakes (who doesn't? ), but we're still the good guys. Hey, good guys make mistakes too, don't they?

Osborn F Enready · Apr 4, 2007, 03:05 pm

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Pam said:
so is america a terrorist state and americans terrorists

Yes, if you use Americas "definition" of "terrorist sympathizer nations".

The hypocrisy is saddening, isn't it.

tinybear · Apr 4, 2007, 03:12 pm

I dislike hypocrisy. So why don't we come right out and say it? We'll help those who help us and destroy those who threaten us.

Osborn F Enready · Apr 4, 2007, 03:13 pm

Because political correctness and the wave of nanny-statism that is enveloping this nation, combined with the sheeple count, would prevent that tactic from being successful.

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WHILE STILL MAINTAINING TWO PARTY DOMINANCE, which is the bi-partisan goal, at all costs.

tinybear · Apr 4, 2007, 03:15 pm

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Yes, if you use Americas "definition" of "terrorist sympathizer nations".

The hypocrisy is saddening, isn't it.

We don't "sympathize" with terrorists. OK, sometimes we use terrorists to kill other terrorists and we pay them to do it (in some way or other). It's perfectly OK. After they kill those terrorists we want killed, we'll kill them. :)

grandpa · Apr 9, 2007, 07:53 am

There isn't any reason to think Americans never synpathize with terrorists, seeing as to how our government functions as a terrorist organization.

The fact that I've paid taxes links me with a massive terrorist organization.

Grandpa h.

tinybear · Apr 9, 2007, 10:01 am

Why do you say our government is a terrorist organization?

grandpa · Apr 10, 2007, 05:17 pm

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Why do you say our government is a terrorist organization?

How about the fact that it engages in terrorism?

Grandpa h.

tinybear · Apr 10, 2007, 09:56 pm

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How about the fact that it engages in terrorism?

Grandpa h.

It doesn't. Why do you say it does?

Osborn F Enready · Apr 11, 2007, 06:21 pm

Read about WACO, and then read about RUBY RIDGE, and tell me that isn't federal and state sponsored terror.

Read about the truth Tiny, not what the media highlights.

The list of terror that is linked to this nation goes back 100+ years, but mainly in foreign policy and actions.

grandpa · Apr 11, 2007, 07:53 pm

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It doesn't. Why do you say it does?

Because our government is directly involved in campaigns of violence that kill people throughout the world. The Iraq War is an obvious example of state-terrorism. There are countless others. How about US support for Indonesia's slaughter of the East Timorese or our devastating activities in El Salvador?

To see why governments are bad, all one has to do is some minimal research.

Grandpa h.

Osborn F Enready · Apr 12, 2007, 02:04 am

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Grandpa said:
To see why governments are bad, all one has to do is some minimal research.

I would agree, except that I would say "to see why governments who are given a blank check to use force, in their peoples names are bad...."

People have a right to defend their nations, but all governments are not all bad, nor are properly limited governments easily made bad.

Apr 2, 2007, 11:26 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	Is america a terrorist state and are americans terrorists quote Successive American governments have supported terrorists in many states including Chile, Nicaragua, Iran, Afghanistan, and so on. so is america a terrorist state and americans terrorists with the new law about giving material support to terrosts does that mean reagan clinton carter and bush the cia etc should be tried for breaking the law

Apr 4, 2007, 03:13 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	Because political correctness and the wave of nanny-statism that is enveloping this nation, combined with the sheeple count, would prevent that tactic from being successful. (edit to add) WHILE STILL MAINTAINING TWO PARTY DOMINANCE, which is the bi-partisan goal, at all costs. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Apr 9, 2007, 07:53 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
grandpa blasphemer Location: Michigan Posts: 7,361	There isn't any reason to think Americans never synpathize with terrorists, seeing as to how our government functions as a terrorist organization. The fact that I've paid taxes links me with a massive terrorist organization. Grandpa h. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -Ambrose Bierce

Apr 11, 2007, 06:21 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	Read about WACO, and then read about RUBY RIDGE, and tell me that isn't federal and state sponsored terror. Read about the truth Tiny, not what the media highlights. The list of terror that is linked to this nation goes back 100+ years, but mainly in foreign policy and actions. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Apr 2, 2007, 01:20 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,008	When we supported them, they were freedom fighters, not terrorists. Hey, if they turned into terrorists, we weren't told. We're not terrorists. Nor do we support terrorism. We're the good guys. Always remember that!

Apr 2, 2007, 01:30 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	quote Successive American governments have supported terrorists in many states including Chile, Nicaragua, Iran, Afghanistan, and so on. death squads in Nicaragua, san salvdore supporting the contras assinating allende of chile and supporting the butcher pinochet idi amin saddam with his war against iran the terrorst trianing camp at the -the school of the americas where rednecks are trianed in terroist technques throuhout out south america by your own goverments defintinituions your are terrorists have supproted terrorist then and still now if you are the good guys i would hate to see the devil

Apr 2, 2007, 01:54 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	to tiny bear quote A row has also broken out in Washington over whether to "unleash" the military wing of the Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK), an Iraq-based Iranian opposition group with a long and bloody history of armed opposition to the Iranian regime. The group is currently listed by the US state department as terrorist organisation, but Mr Pike said : "A faction in the Defence Department wants to unleash them. They could never overthrow the current Iranian regime but they might cause a lot of damage." http:/www.cawa.fr/us-funds-terror-gr...cle001000.html by your own state department you support terrosrist your own goverment defines as terrorists so america is a terrorist state by your own standards the good guys are terrorists-i would hate to see the devil you cant say they are freedom fighters and the good guys can do what they want to the bad guys by your own goverments admision you support the bad guy ie terroists which makes you a bad guy -if terrorists are bad

Apr 2, 2007, 02:03 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,008	Once those terrorists help us (i.e. the good guys), they become reformed (ex-)terrorists. So in other words, they have repented on their terrorist ways. It's OK to support them then, 'cos they're no longer bad guys. Get it?

Apr 2, 2007, 02:16 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	hey have u not got eyes cant you see quote The group is currently listed by the US state department as terrorist organisation, but Mr Pike said : "A faction in the Defence Department wants to unleash them. They could never overthrow the current Iranian regime but they might cause a lot of damage." it says you support a state department defined terrorist group not reformed not ex but current terrorsit group if you cant read then dont bother crapping on with your drible

Apr 2, 2007, 02:20 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,008	It says a row has broken out in the State Department. That means we haven't decided yet. We won't use these guys until they are reformed. Get it?

Apr 4, 2007, 03:12 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,008	I dislike hypocrisy. So why don't we come right out and say it? We'll help those who help us and destroy those who threaten us.

Apr 9, 2007, 10:01 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,008	Why do you say our government is a terrorist organization?