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| View Poll Results: What are your politics closest too party wise? | |||
| GOP Republican |     | 2 | 6.45% |
| DNC Democrat |    | 2 | 6.45% |
| Libertarian |    | 12 | 38.71% |
| Independant Third Party (please specify below) |    | 5 | 16.13% |
| No Party |    | 10 | 32.26% |
| Voters: 31. You may not vote | |||
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Mar 29, 2007, 03:52 pm
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| Navy Veteran  Location: Texas Posts: 6,335 | What are you most like politically? Just a curious informal poll here. Where do your politics reside most closely with? Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route? |
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Mar 30, 2007, 09:48 pm
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| Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,335 | Quote:
That's why there is that neat "independent third party" option. Meh, don't like start you own poll. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route? | |
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Mar 31, 2007, 03:18 am
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  formerly Isherwood  Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,746 | I say no party. I've given reason before as to why I don't vote, and since I don't, I see no reason to participate in any sort of political rah-rah activities. It's like asking my favorite religion. But philosophically both religion and politics interest me. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) |
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Mar 31, 2007, 07:33 am
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 Fyrdman  Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,161 | Quote:
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill | |
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Mar 31, 2007, 08:28 am
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 Throbbing Member  Location: Old Europe Posts: 7,134 | I don't see why people refuse to vote on the grounds of a false choice. Smacks of perfectionism. Not only will nobody notice your protest, but you're abdicating your only power as a citizen, unsatisfactory though it might be. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne |
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Mar 31, 2007, 07:18 pm
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| Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,161 | Quote:
I don't care if no one notices my protest. The "democracy" we have is a sham. When we go out and vote, we legitimise this sham. We let it live some more. Why should I go out and put fuel on the fire to keep it breathing? By withdrawing my vote, I am no longer participating in this bullshit dream that I am somehow affecting the future politics of my country. I am not prepared to go along with this game of charades where we pretend that we are free because we choose who will be dictator for up to another 5 years. When everyone realises that this is a fraud that allows careerist moochers and powerhungry liars to continue at our expense and withdraws their vote, then the system will be shown for what it truely is, a side show to distract us from the fact that we are not free, a smokescreen to hide the strings of power that control us. Then those politicians will have to choose between honesty and liberty, or naked authoritarianism. As for this being 'perfectionist', it's nothing of the sort. I don't need a party to represent all of my views perfectly, but I would like one party to share some of them. In the UK, there are genuine 3 contenders for government. You would think that would give me plenty of choice, some real differences to choose between. Wrong, they are all statist. They all seek statist solutions to problems, they seek statist solutions to none-problems. Not one of them wishes to shrink the state. Not one of them defends the rights of the individual on principle but only where it may score a few votes. The party's have all shifted to this central mass that seeks to appeal to the swing voters in swing seats. This means they no longer have any principles, but seek purely power. I don't want these oppurtunists with hard ones for power in government, so why should I vote for any of them? As for minor parties, the British system is well designed to prevent them coming into power. The Labour Party promised a referendum on proportional representation. Well, 10 years on I'm still waiting for them to even mention it, let alone organise it. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill | |
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Mar 31, 2007, 08:05 pm
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| Skeptical Patriot  Posts: 7,746 | I don't do polls as a rule. However, I'd say "no party". Even though I am a Libertarian I have lost a lot of faith in that party. Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots. |
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Mar 31, 2007, 08:28 pm
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| moderat-e/o-r  Location: boston Posts: 11,184 | i guess it depends on how you interpret this vague polling question.. i voted for the LP. even though i haven't voted for many LP candidates - and never for a federal election, but out of the political parties the LP most closely matches my views. of course, they don't perfectly match my views because i tend to support regulations on weapons/guns, don't support a gold standard, don't support full legalization of drugs, and a couple other sticking points. but, the two major parties both stand for these things (amongst other things): big government, deficit spending, imperialism, corporatism and the gradual dissolution of our civil liberties. |
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Mar 31, 2007, 11:18 pm
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| Stabbed By Satan  Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 247 | People who are right are generally not libertarian and vice versa there are exceptions of course but 90% of the time it's libertarians are left and authoritarians are right. Economic Left/Right: -9.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79 Reality is fantasy; Facts are perception. |
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Apr 1, 2007, 02:44 am
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| 9/11: Inside Job  Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,446 | Constitution Party. Constitution Party (United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) Paleoconservative. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams |
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Apr 1, 2007, 02:57 am
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| Igneous Magma  Posts: 332 | Quote:
I don't really belong to a party in particular, and my opinions are too variable for me to be convinced I'm "closer" to one than another. Last edited by iclaudius; Apr 1, 2007 at 02:58 am. Reason: added party | |
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Apr 1, 2007, 07:30 am
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| Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 7,134 | Quote:
Democracy then has always been a sham. Again, your view looks hopelessly perfectionist to me. If you maintain it, you'll never vote. Bravo. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne | |
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Apr 1, 2007, 07:35 am
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| Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 7,134 | Quote:
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Wizzle, how would you characterize a "left" libertarian (of all things). Libertarianism seems to me to be based on the Law of the Jungle. To me, that ain't left. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne | ||
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