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Old May 26, 2004, 01:57 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Webb: 'Should George Bush Get The Death Penalty? I Say Yes'
By Jimmy Moore
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May 26, 2004



"[The prison abuse in Iraq] is a war crime, committed by the president of the United States," Webb declared on his show. "And do you know what the punishment for that is? Death!"

After declaring Bush being guilty of committing a "war crime," Webb compared the president with death row convicts in Texas.

"So, I say if this man has committed a war crime, and they can prove it, let's let George Bush get the final justice that he has meted out as Governor of Texas, laughing at people who have been sent to the death chamber, let him face the death penalty for the war crime he has committed," Webb contended.

Declaring that administering the death penalty to the president "is constitutional," Webb included other Bush administration leaders in the list of those who "should get the death penalty," including Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney, because they are all "war criminals."

Webb went further with his comments by pointing to the Geneva Convention and affirming his belief that Bush should be put to death.

"If this is proven to be true, that he knew what was going on, it's a violation of the Geneva Convention," Webb stated. "When you commit a war crime, which is punishable by death."

Webb then asks his listeners a question and quickly answers it for himself.

"[S]hould George Bush get the death penalty? I say yes," Webb exclaimed

http://www.talonnews.com/news/2004/may/052...confirmed.shtml

I think this radio tlak show host over stepped.. so many lines of decency it's almost pitiful. While we DO have free Speech in America, calling for anyone's death is wrong, and by Federal Law calling for the President to die is stupid and last time I checked illegal.

But thats aside the point. What this man has done, is to take political debate to a new level of absurdness, to bring it to a new low. His tirade does nothing to add to the debate, and interjects just.. vile hate... and thats not good, right or left.


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:14 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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I am not a proponent of the death penalty, so I would disagree. I see no point in putting this man to death. Under the rules that 'W' lives by, it would only be fair to call for the death penalty, I suppose, but I would settle for his resigning and apologizing to the world for his crimes.
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:20 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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We can argue his crimes in another thread if you would like.

My point here is this man, Webb, went too far in his show and brought nothing but hate to the debate and discussion of politics in America.


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:24 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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If you think the death penalty is hate, then I agree with you. However, since you're a Bush supporter, I assume that you think that the death penalty is a good idea for murderers. Bush is a murderer, so it would be fair to call for the death penalty if you think that's warranted.
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:26 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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You feel Bush is a murderer. That is opinion Vs Fact.


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:45 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Old May 26, 2004, 10:11 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Webb: 'Should George Bush Get The Death Penalty? I Say Yes'
By Jimmy Moore
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I think this radio tlak show host over stepped.. so many lines of decency it's almost pitiful. While we DO have free Speech in America, calling for anyone's death is wrong, and by Federal Law calling for the President to die is stupid and last time I checked illegal.

But thats aside the point. What this man has done, is to take political debate to a new level of absurdness, to bring it to a new low. His tirade does nothing to add to the debate, and interjects just.. vile hate... and thats not good, right or left.
Just another angry outburst from a radio talker, much like I hear every day from the likes of Mike Gallagher. The intelligent people should, as many do already is just ignore both sides and concentrate on reality.

And according to your quote, what this bird said is not illegal. Saying 'go out and blow someone away' is in itself not strictly illegal as long as he doesn't do it himself, but advocating the death penalty reverts the deed to the government and is not implying he would do so personally. Ergo, not illegal.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old May 27, 2004, 12:19 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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If I am not mistaken, If I were to hire someone to go kill thousands of people, I would have my day in court. It would not be a good day and it wouldnt matter if I were CEO of a giant corporation or not. If there were witnesses and a motive and weapons were found in possession of my agents/contractors/hitmen...These would be used in my prosecution and Johnny Cochran would be hard pressed for a defense. Jerry Spencer wouldnt have anything to do with me and the inscription on my tomb would be "He lived by the sword and died by the sword"
Do you realize Dubya presided over the most executions ever in the state of Texas? Why would he be opposed to one more?I am usually opposed to the death penalty because DNA has proven so many verdicts wrong. In this case there is irrefutable evidence and millions of eyewitnesses. That and the smirk and strut that say to the world "F*CK YOU I am the King". Some murderers are set free because the action was justifiable like self defense. This is ruled out in my humble opinion because Neither Afghanistan nor Iraq posed a threat. His case would never stand up in court...But I regress, I never thought OJ would get off either. So heres the deal, ARREST Bush, and get this circus on the road. P.S. You can get an ARREST Bush Hat on my web site in the shameless commerce division
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Old Aug 3, 2005, 11:29 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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So Webb shot off at the mouth, got the attention he wanted, and is reaping the benfits of having all of these new listeners tuning in to get angry at him or to hear what he'll say next.

Free speech.

Yeah, it was a stupid thing to say, but only because the likelihood of Dubya ever going on trial for war crimes is about on par with the likelihood that I'll wake up tomorrow fifty pounds lighter. If the national current were against him and it was even a possibility, then a few more people would be taking Webb's comment seriously, debating the finer points of the evidence, and placing their bets. If Dubya Was convicted, Webb would be a ballsy, outspoken genius who "broke" the issue to the public.

As it stands, he should not be in any legal trouble for his speech. Freedom of speech and all that. While I think it was an idiotic pointless comment, I'd be pretty pissed if he were in trouble for it.


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Old Aug 3, 2005, 11:53 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Old Aug 4, 2005, 12:06 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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calling for anyone's death is wrong
Heh! Didn't Dubya say he wanted Osama "dead or alive"? In calling for the guy's death, that must put the Prez in the wrong, Mr.V?

To be fair to Bush, I don't think he really meant it...


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Old Aug 4, 2005, 12:17 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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You're right PH, you caught me in a bit of a Quandry.

Calling for someone's death is serious business, calling for Osama's head is reasonable. This man's arguements against Bush... are not.


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old Aug 8, 2005, 05:27 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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I am not a proponent of the death penalty, so I would disagree. I see no point in putting this man to death. Under the rules that 'W' lives by, it would only be fair to call for the death penalty, I suppose, but I would settle for his resigning and apologizing to the world for his crimes.
Bush hasn't committed any crimes. If he had the libs would have impeached him long ago. Or at least they'd have tried to impeach him.

There are scores of libs watching Bush closely so that they can catch him in an impeachable offense.

He hasn't committed any.

Don't forget the Democrats supported Bush's decision to go to war. They would have declared war if he would have asked them to do so. Sadly he didn't.
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Old Aug 8, 2005, 05:28 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Heh! Didn't Dubya say he wanted Osama "dead or alive"? In calling for the guy's death, that must put the Prez in the wrong, Mr.V?

To be fair to Bush, I don't think he really meant it...
Eh? And you don't think that we should try to kill or capture Sammy Been Laden?

I think he's dead. But if he isn't he should be.
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Old Aug 8, 2005, 05:45 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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They're on the same team, Logjam. Bush and Ol' Sammy, I mean. Both whipping up war fever in their supporters, to their own political profit. I wouldn't be suprised of BinLaden is at the Crawford Ranch right now, hatching new plots, heh...

I know the US military allowed an escape when they had him cornered: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853000/site/newsweek/
or truthout: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080705A.shtml

Or maybe that was a mistake like the one that happened for a couple hours on the morning of September 11th, 2001...


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Old Aug 8, 2005, 05:45 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Calling for someone's death is serious business, calling for Osama's head is reasonable. This man's arguements against Bush... are not.
Why isn't it reasonable? He's calling for Bush to be tried in a court of law for capital crimes. After all, Bush is responsible for a great number of deaths, for reasons which turned out to be false. Do you or do you not endorse capital punishment in this country, Mr.V?

Well, this guy believes that Bush is guilty of no less crimes than Hussein and should stand trial for them. That's his opinion.

My opinion differs. My opinion is that Bush should stand trial before the Senate and be removed from office for Gross Criminal Negligence, for his starting and handling of the Iraq war. And if that, why not the same charges in a civil court? The world court? It's not capital punishment, but I certainly think LBDubya and Rumsnamara are quilty of something!

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Old Aug 9, 2005, 06:36 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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They're on the same team, Logjam. Bush and Ol' Sammy, I mean. Both whipping up war fever in their supporters, to their own political profit. I wouldn't be suprised of BinLaden is at the Crawford Ranch right now, hatching new plots, heh...

I know the US military allowed an escape when they had him cornered: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853000/site/newsweek/
or truthout: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080705A.shtml

Or maybe that was a mistake like the one that happened for a couple hours on the morning of September 11th, 2001...
I understand that the Army put in Afghan troops into the mountains after we'd bombed the Pee wadden out of the place and that the Afghan troops let him get away. Or allowed him to.

The Army pukes did it to be politically correct. I was a field grade officer in the Army Infantry and we had a lot of politically aware dudes. I disliked them. They also help us to lose wars.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sammy is pushing up daisies someplace.
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Old Aug 20, 2005, 04:02 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Old Aug 20, 2005, 11:37 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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We either have free speech or we don't. If you dislike the show, you will not be forced to listen, I promise.

The only thing that will keep DUH-bya out of the chamber is the fact that he'll never get a fair trial. It wouldn't surprise me if a terrible "terrorist tragedy" befell the Hague on the eve of his trial!


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Old Aug 20, 2005, 11:40 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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That congresssional vote was based on information that was all lies.

Don't forget that.


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