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LtMisha · Mar 21, 2007, 12:06 pm

I've heard many great ones, such as America knew about 9/11 and did nothing to stop it (no offence) and that America payed Osama Bin Laden to cause trouble on the Soviet border. Any other, better ones?

**Jack** · Mar 21, 2007, 12:58 pm

Elvis is alive, we never landed on the moon, JFK is still alive and George Bush has a brain.

The Bacon Guy · Mar 21, 2007, 01:10 pm

All the 9/11 conspiracy websites are actually run by the government.

LtMisha · Mar 21, 2007, 01:14 pm

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All the 9/11 conspiracy websites are actually run by the government.

My God, I had no idea that was so. I've heard one that Hitler is alive, and that Lenin isn't dead, the Russains have him in suspended animation. Listen to this, Why did all high ranking American Officials cancel their flights on 9/11?

Duke1985 · Mar 21, 2007, 01:29 pm

I've always attested that I can hold Metallica accountable for 9/11 by flooding the courts with frivolous mp3 downloading cases. The FBI became so entrenched in Metallica's case they ignored all the warnings that a terrorist attack was coming.

"Frank, look at these numbers, something big is going to happen. Al Queda is on the move."
"Damnit Johnson, theres no time, kids are out there downloading music."

Meanwhile Lars Ulrich sits in his pool and laughs.

thats my conspiracy theory *bows*

brien · Mar 21, 2007, 04:23 pm

The best in terms of credibility is the assasination of JFK by the mafia and the least credible is 911.

The Bacon Guy · Mar 21, 2007, 08:18 pm

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Listen to this, Why did all high ranking American Officials cancel their flights on 9/11?

That’s just what they want you to think. The story that they all cancelled their flights was invented by the government and spread over the government-run 9/11 conspiracy websites. They want you to think that they masterminded the whole thing, so you’ll believe that Bush has a brain.

Scribbler1 · Mar 21, 2007, 08:26 pm

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Elvis is alive, we never landed on the moon, JFK is still alive and George Bush has a brain.

Come on! I can believe almost anything, but that LAST one??

brien · Mar 22, 2007, 03:14 pm

I forgot to include the Roswell New Mexico conspiricy that the government covered up the crash of an alien spaceship in on April 15, 1947 I like it, and it has all of the ingredients for a juicy conspiricy, but the idea of the recovery of alien spacemen tends to dampen my enthusiasm. However, I do believe Jesse Marcel and his only surviving son, when they state there was a crash and they examined recovered parts with alien writings on the pieces. What is their interest in lying? Excellent government cover up conspircy.

Mozart1220 · Mar 22, 2007, 03:40 pm

I think as far as Roswell and Area 51 and hanger 18 or whatever it is, the government IS promoting the "soace alien" angle. Why not? It's simple, people eat it up, and while we are chasing "Greys" we are NOT reporting on all the secret planes and such, which is probably a good thing.

As for JFK, there is alot more evidence supporting a conspiricy no matter who was involved, than there is for that rediculous "magic bullet" theory.

With 9-11, I will only say that while I don't believe our government planned or even had foreknowledge of the actual atacks (though the Clinton administration had intell about OBL planning to use commercial planes to attack someplace, and the Bush administration disregarded it to obsess on Hussein) I do believe that they are lying to us about who really did it and why, and covered up crucial information. (where are the security camera tapes from around the pentagon for example?)

Oh yeah, we went to the moon, no matter what that crazy old coot on the "History" channel" says.

Slevin57 · Mar 22, 2007, 05:23 pm

That there are a race of reptile people roaming the earth.

PatrickHenry · Mar 22, 2007, 07:20 pm

That conspiracies are non-existent.

gw120 · Mar 22, 2007, 09:54 pm

If by "best" you mean most credible, the best are: Bush new about 9/11; there were two shooters in the JFK shooting; there is a government cover up on the subject of Aliens particularly Roswell; and I don't know if it's really a conspiracy, but Mumia's innocent.

But if by "best" you mean most blasphemous/stupid, the best are: Tupac faked his death; man never landed on the moon (though there are some questions I'd like answered about that topic); the Illuminati are aliens, not humans (although Cheney may not be human, as he is able to live with no heart); Lenin's alive (although I wish it was true).

Chaossaber314 · Mar 23, 2007, 02:35 am

I think the one I've given the most credence to is the one where the Flight 93 was shot down. I could just see us afraid it was going to hit something important and shooting it down before it could get in range and not wanting to admit to firing on and destroying a civilian aircraft. Would you?

I don't take it to the Loose Change extreme and pretend that all the phone calls and everything from Flight 93 were made up and the like. I just think there's a good chance the passengers were getting ready to do something or were in the process of attempting to take back the plane only for it to get shot down.

I think this would be clear evidence that 9/11 wasn't an actual conspiracy as a whole because why would you have to shoot down planes that were under your control?

Praxius · Mar 23, 2007, 08:10 am

The best conspiracy theory I have come across to date is in regards to the United States being founded and developed by the Illuminati / Stone Masons. I've touched base on this theory a few times in here, and yet, it seems nobody want's to touch it..... which kinda begs the question if there is anything true to it.

United States Presidents and The Illuminati / Masonic Power Structure

^ As an example

If you go down to the bottom of page one, they show you how the Washington capital has been developed with pentagrams, the Mason's logo, symbols and letters in US bills (See Page 3 and the bottom of Page 1)

And I have other links and information kicking around in this theory..... but the whole theory is based around three world wars and how they are behind the planning of all three World Wars.... the third war is planned to bring about the "New World Order"

New World Order (conspiracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Illuminati - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Masonic conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now if for once someone can shed some light on all of this and try and debunk it, it would be appreciated. All other conspiracies have decent defenses to them to make the conspiracy questionable, but I haven't heard much on this.

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Modern day politicians are or were once Freemasons, including George H. W. Bush

LtMisha · Mar 23, 2007, 04:08 pm

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Quote by: Praxius

The best conspiracy theory I have come across to date is in regards to the United States being founded and developed by the Illuminati / Stone Masons. I've touched base on this theory a few times in here, and yet, it seems nobody want's to touch it..... which kinda begs the question if there is anything true to it.

United States Presidents and The Illuminati / Masonic Power Structure

^ As an example

If you go down to the bottom of page one, they show you how the Washington capital has been developed with pentagrams, the Mason's logo, symbols and letters in US bills (See Page 3 and the bottom of Page 1)

And I have other links and information kicking around in this theory..... but the whole theory is based around three world wars and how they are behind the planning of all three World Wars.... the third war is planned to bring about the "New World Order"

New World Order (conspiracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Illuminati - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Masonic conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now if for once someone can shed some light on all of this and try and debunk it, it would be appreciated. All other conspiracies have decent defenses to them to make the conspiracy questionable, but I haven't heard much on this.

Man, Praxius, That's scary. I'd rather belive that Lenin's alive anyday. Wikipedia says it don't have an article on the thir world war thing.

The Architect · Mar 23, 2007, 06:21 pm

The PEC

A US government organization known as the PEC (Psionic (Psychic) Energy Commission) has been accused by New Agers of implanting children at birth in England and America with computer chips that suppress their innate psychic powers[citation needed]. It is unlikely that such an organization actually exist
Sounds like an X-File episode.

Mozart1220 · Mar 25, 2007, 01:31 am

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Quote by: Praxius

The best conspiracy theory I have come across to date is in regards to the United States being founded and developed by the Illuminati / Stone Masons. I've touched base on this theory a few times in here, and yet, it seems nobody want's to touch it..... which kinda begs the question if there is anything true to it.

United States Presidents and The Illuminati / Masonic Power Structure

^ As an example

If you go down to the bottom of page one, they show you how the Washington capital has been developed with pentagrams, the Mason's logo, symbols and letters in US bills (See Page 3 and the bottom of Page 1)

And I have other links and information kicking around in this theory..... but the whole theory is based around three world wars and how they are behind the planning of all three World Wars.... the third war is planned to bring about the "New World Order"

New World Order (conspiracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Illuminati - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Masonic conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now if for once someone can shed some light on all of this and try and debunk it, it would be appreciated. All other conspiracies have decent defenses to them to make the conspiracy questionable, but I haven't heard much on this.

Almost all the founding fathers of this country WERE masons, and Jack the Ripper wasn't caught because HE was a Mason, as was the head of Scotland Yard. The police chief knew that if Jack were caught, he'd be hanged, and Masons are sworn to protect each other to the death.

Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon (ahem) "church" was also a Mason, and took some of the secret ceremonies for his church, which got him executed. (my step dad is a Mason, and told me that when he and my Mom joined the Mormon cult and were "sealed in the temple" (sounds like a terrible way to die in Egypt doesn't it?) many of the ceremonies were directly taken from the Masons.

None of this says the Masons are evil, but there sure are alot of them out there in positions of great power and influence.

Mozart1220 · Mar 25, 2007, 01:32 am

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Quote by: Isherwood

Elvis is alive, we never landed on the moon, JFK is still alive and George Bush has a brain.

Bush has a BRAIN? Come on now, no one is going to buy THAT one!

Chaossaber314 · Mar 25, 2007, 02:14 am

Enough people attribute 9/11 to him.

Mar 21, 2007, 12:06 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
LtMisha Sanctioned Psyker Location: Llangennech Posts: 202	What's the best conspiracy theory that youv'e heard? I've heard many great ones, such as America knew about 9/11 and did nothing to stop it (no offence) and that America payed Osama Bin Laden to cause trouble on the Soviet border. Any other, better ones? Lenin's Revenge, good and true. Lt Misha

Mar 21, 2007, 12:58 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,869	Elvis is alive, we never landed on the moon, JFK is still alive and George Bush has a brain. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Mar 21, 2007, 01:10 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
The Bacon Guy Brb, France Location: Scotland, Central Lowlands Posts: 2,865	All the 9/11 conspiracy websites are actually run by the government. The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.

Mar 21, 2007, 04:23 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
brien Iceberg Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,691	The best in terms of credibility is the assasination of JFK by the mafia and the least credible is 911. Brien the Iceberg If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. M.T.

Mar 22, 2007, 03:14 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
brien Iceberg Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,691	I forgot to include the Roswell New Mexico conspiricy that the government covered up the crash of an alien spaceship in on April 15, 1947 I like it, and it has all of the ingredients for a juicy conspiricy, but the idea of the recovery of alien spacemen tends to dampen my enthusiasm. However, I do believe Jesse Marcel and his only surviving son, when they state there was a crash and they examined recovered parts with alien writings on the pieces. What is their interest in lying? Excellent government cover up conspircy. Brien the Iceberg If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. M.T.

Mar 21, 2007, 01:29 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Duke1985 The Duke Location: Michigan Posts: 308	I've always attested that I can hold Metallica accountable for 9/11 by flooding the courts with frivolous mp3 downloading cases. The FBI became so entrenched in Metallica's case they ignored all the warnings that a terrorist attack was coming. "Frank, look at these numbers, something big is going to happen. Al Queda is on the move." "Damnit Johnson, theres no time, kids are out there downloading music." Meanwhile Lars Ulrich sits in his pool and laughs. thats my conspiracy theory bows

Mar 22, 2007, 03:40 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Mozart1220 Igneous Magma Posts: 687	I think as far as Roswell and Area 51 and hanger 18 or whatever it is, the government IS promoting the "soace alien" angle. Why not? It's simple, people eat it up, and while we are chasing "Greys" we are NOT reporting on all the secret planes and such, which is probably a good thing. As for JFK, there is alot more evidence supporting a conspiricy no matter who was involved, than there is for that rediculous "magic bullet" theory. With 9-11, I will only say that while I don't believe our government planned or even had foreknowledge of the actual atacks (though the Clinton administration had intell about OBL planning to use commercial planes to attack someplace, and the Bush administration disregarded it to obsess on Hussein) I do believe that they are lying to us about who really did it and why, and covered up crucial information. (where are the security camera tapes from around the pentagon for example?) Oh yeah, we went to the moon, no matter what that crazy old coot on the "History" channel" says. Big Jr is watching you!

Mar 22, 2007, 05:23 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Slevin57 Igneous Magma Posts: 419	That there are a race of reptile people roaming the earth.

Mar 22, 2007, 07:20 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	That conspiracies are non-existent. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Mar 22, 2007, 09:54 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
gw120 Stabbed By Satan Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 247	If by "best" you mean most credible, the best are: Bush new about 9/11; there were two shooters in the JFK shooting; there is a government cover up on the subject of Aliens particularly Roswell; and I don't know if it's really a conspiracy, but Mumia's innocent. But if by "best" you mean most blasphemous/stupid, the best are: Tupac faked his death; man never landed on the moon (though there are some questions I'd like answered about that topic); the Illuminati are aliens, not humans (although Cheney may not be human, as he is able to live with no heart); Lenin's alive (although I wish it was true). Economic Left/Right: -9.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79 Reality is fantasy; Facts are perception.

Mar 23, 2007, 02:35 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
Chaossaber314 The Cake is a lie... Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,276	I think the one I've given the most credence to is the one where the Flight 93 was shot down. I could just see us afraid it was going to hit something important and shooting it down before it could get in range and not wanting to admit to firing on and destroying a civilian aircraft. Would you? I don't take it to the Loose Change extreme and pretend that all the phone calls and everything from Flight 93 were made up and the like. I just think there's a good chance the passengers were getting ready to do something or were in the process of attempting to take back the plane only for it to get shot down. I think this would be clear evidence that 9/11 wasn't an actual conspiracy as a whole because why would you have to shoot down planes that were under your control? What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

Mar 23, 2007, 06:21 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
The Architect Agnostic, Cynic Location: New York Posts: 285	The PEC A US government organization known as the PEC (Psionic (Psychic) Energy Commission) has been accused by New Agers of implanting children at birth in England and America with computer chips that suppress their innate psychic powers[citation needed]. It is unlikely that such an organization actually exist Sounds like an X-File episode.

Mar 25, 2007, 02:14 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
Chaossaber314 The Cake is a lie... Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,276	Enough people attribute 9/11 to him. What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?