Is bad grammar a sign of low intelligence

[Jack]

Does the fact that the vast majority of novels, textbooks, academic papers, newspaper and magazine articles, just about everything published to be read and comprehended by others is spelled correctly (in fact often proofread) and follows the basic rules of grammar tell you anything?
If you use non-standard spelling or sentence construction, I'm going to be distracted by the style, and what you're trying to say could easily be overlooked. Good writing should be transparent. You shouldn't be aware you're reading words. In some forms of writing the style is the important factor. Posting to forums isn't one of those cases.

[pam699]

if i declared before hand i was going to write a book called "what i did on my holidays" in bad grammer u would not read it but if einstien declared before hand he was going to write a book called "how to build a time machine" in bad grammer u would WHY read his bad grammer and not mind
is it because so long as u benifit from it it does not mater if it is in bad grammar

[jose]

Quote by: pam699 do i have to site them all to makke my point if any of these seminal works where in bad grammer would u just shelve then for f...k sake use youir intelligence to get the drift of wat i am saying about bad grammer and ignoring major works if expressed in bad grammer

I know of not one work written with bad grammar,
grammar is like an agreed upon set of rules to help convey meaning,
if you don´t bother to learn the rules of grammar, you may be misunderstood

[RickSp]

Quote by: pam699 quote "Why should I care about your ideas if you lack the basic courtesy to make your post easily intelligible?" so u would have just shelved einstien theory of relativity it is was in poor grammar

Are you comparing your posts to Einstein? Wee bit grandiose, don't you think? So far I have not noted that level of insight in your threads.

Einstein published much of his early work, including his theory of relativity and his ground-breaking work, Annus Mirabilis , in the prestigious journal, Annalen der Physik . It seems highly unlikely that he would have been published if his grammar was poor or if he did not use punctuation. Annalen der Physik has been published since 1790. I see no reason to suspect that they would accept bad writing.

You have chosen a particularly bad metaphor.

[Jack]

pam669, you are no Einstein. Books written in gibberish aren't very popular.

[bishop]

Quote by: pam699 if i declared before hand i was going to write a book called "what i did on my holidays" in bad grammer u would not read it but if einstien declared before hand he was going to write a book called "how to build a time machine" in bad grammer u would WHY read his bad grammer and not mind

these run-on sentences of yours are impossible to read.

it's a matter of opinion on whether/not your horrible grammar and spelling translates into low intelligence.. imo, i think they do translate to low intelligence. at a minimum, however, these unreadable posts are not worth investing the energy to decipher.

you mention einstein in some goofy attempt to excuse your incoherence, which i find completely absurd. einstein knew how to punctuate and properly construct his sentences - whereas you clearly do not.

[pam699]

please comment STOP AVOIDING
if i declared before hand i was going to write a book called "what i did on my holidays" in bad grammer u would not read it
but if einstien declared before hand he was going to write a book called "how to build a time machine" in bad grammer u would WHY read his bad grammer and not mind
is it because so long as u benifit from it it does not mater if it is in bad grammar

[pam699]

look we all know which u want admitt but any halfwit knows if you could make money from a bad gra,mmer book u would read it
if the state could make a new bomb from a bad grammer book they would readit
but i tell u if i wrote abook on "how to build a time machine" in bad grammer and u safd ohh go away and correct the punctuation i would say F....K YOU publish or stay in the sdark ages while i meet doc who

[RickSp]

OK Pam, you have convinced me.

Anyone who uses, and indeed defends the use of, bad grammar and poor punctuation, must be an idiot. Not my original opinion, but after reading your arguments, you have convinced me. Definately.

[nm420]

I'm pretty sure anyone intelligent enough to discover a groundbreaking scientific theory also understands the importance of using language properly. Science attempts to be very precise with its statements, and using made-up spellings or grammatical rules detracts from that precision as it leaves the reader continually second-guessing the meaning of the author. Thus, your hypothetical genius scientist who has a significant breakthrough yet rejects the notion of using established rules of communication is rather unlikely to exist. If a major work were published with the style of writing you exhibit (though I don't know what respectable publisher would print something like that), it most likely would be ignored by the mainstream community. Eventually there might be someone stoic enough to recognize the importance of the work and "translate" it into a language the community understands, though this person should receive a great amount of the credit owed to the discovery.

But I suppose one who thinks all thought is meaningless would have trouble understanding that language is used to convey meaning, and thus be likely to abuse language to the point of butchering any meaning (or lack of meaning?) they are trying to communicate.

[Mozart1220]

Quote by: pam699 Is bad grammar a sign of low intelligence. I ask this because some people seem to think if u cant spell properly then u have low intelligence so does bad grammar = low inteligence

No, but it is a sign of LAZYNESS.

I seem to be losing my ability to spell, and I never could type. So if you see typos and errors in my posts, it's because I'm too lazy to fix them.


Kind of like using "u" in place of "you". (which I HATE) get a computer with a real keyboard and stop the teenage text messenging crap.

[pam699]

if einstien was not the typical suck ass wanker fame seeking egotist he should have written his books in bad grammer and when u refused to publish him just said F...K YOU stay in the dark ages
and u know what u all would deserve that for being so f...king grammer anal

bad grammer has nothing to do with worth
and for all your grammer anal u would sell out tommorow and read a bad grammer book if it made u money -and you know what you would be a fool if u did not AND WE ALLLL KNOW THAT
SO MUCH FOR YOUR RULES OF GRMAMMER AND NOT TAKING BAD GRAMMER SERUOISLY

[Gods_Mercenary]

Grammar is important in formal papers and the like, but if you're gonna get annoyed over easily readable bad grammar in posts or E-Mail, you might want to get a life.

[pam699]

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all your grammer anal u would sell out tommorow and read a bad grammer book if it made u money -and you know what you would be a fool if u did not AND WE ALLLL KNOW THAT
AND WE ALL KNOW U R LIEING IF U SAID YOU WOULD NOT
SO MUCH FOR YOUR RULES OF GRMAMMER AND NOT TAKING BAD GRAMMER SERUOISLY

[jose]

A panda walks into a café. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air. "Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes towards the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder. "I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up." The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation. "Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves." So punctuation really does matter, even if it is only occasionally a matter of life and death.

the books of Lynne Truss

[pam699]

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all your grammer anal u would sell out tommorow and read a bad grammer book if it made u money -and you know what you would be a fool if u did not AND WE ALLLL KNOW THAT
AND WE ALL KNOW U R LIEING IF U SAID YOU WOULD NOT
SO MUCH FOR YOUR RULES OF GRMAMMER AND NOT TAKING BAD GRAMMER SERUOISLY


comment please or dont want to be known as a lier

[Gods_Mercenary]

Sorry, you'll have to use better grammar, I'm not quite sure what you're talking about

[pam699]

as i say nit picking grammer is a sign of a challenged mind

ovoidance is sign of an afriad person

[Gods_Mercenary]

Of course I'd read the book, but I wouldn't take it seriously. I'd be thinking about what a dumbass the guy was, but it was gonna make me money, so I don't care. Good grammar is key to having educated people take you seriously.

[jose]

Quote by: pam699 as i say nit picking grammer is a sign of a challenged mind ovoidance is sign of an afriad person

o·void
adj.
Shaped like an egg; ovate.
n.
Something that is shaped like an egg.:)I like my eggs a´friad