The Troll Patrol!

[phoenix_fire]

Quote by: Fonceai More of the Reversal Dismissive Troll... Prime example of a Reversal Dismissive Troll. Person A brings up something, Person B responds to it, then Person A dismisses it with a fallacy reference. I consider it trolling simply on the "you brought it up in the first place!!" grounds.

Hey! It's my friend, the canned troll!

[Fonceai]

You mean the Reversal Dismissive is the same as your Canned Troll? It's not the same.

Or do you mean RD Troll that I've shown twice in this thread is the same one who does the Canned Troll?

Just link to the post you're taking about a don't list a name.

It's inevitable that we're gonna find out who you are referring to, just make it clear that you're referring to that style of post and not necessarily that person.

Plus, I know what you mean about the One-Track Mind Troll. There are a couple on VC who still do that... I'll have to see when they do it again.

Canned Troll would need an example.

And Plagiarism Troll needs an example too... although I wouldn't call it Plagiarism... you're talking about the type who quotes something but you doubt whether it's an actual quote or just something they wrote themselves and wrapped in quote tags?

[phoenix_fire]

Quote by: Fonceai You mean the Reversal Dismissive is the same as your Canned Troll? It's not the same. Or do you mean RD Troll that I've shown twice in this thread is the same one who does the Canned Troll? Just link to the post you're taking about a don't list a name. It's inevitable that we're gonna find out who you are referring to, just make it clear that you're referring to that style of post and not necessarily that person. Plus, I know what you mean about the One-Track Mind Troll. There are a couple on VC who still do that... I'll have to see when they do it again. Canned Troll would need an example. And Plagiarism Troll needs an example too... although I wouldn't call it Plagiarism... you're talking about the type who quotes something but you doubt whether it's an actual quote or just something they wrote themselves and wrapped in quote tags?

I meant that it was the same person...not the same type. I would recognize that style anywhere.

Canned Troll would be hard to show without bringing in stuff from other forums...which the mods frown upon. But you can usually tell if you follow a thread started by one of these people for long enough. The first post reads like an essay, and subsequent ones are in the same style but often do not directly address other people's responses. These responses too are scripted. The later posts in the thread show that Canned Troll has run out of pre-prepared material as they are poorly argued and are usually just endless repetition of previous posts.

Plagiarism Troll takes something verbatim off of a website or out of a book and posts it without tagging it. Sometimes this is out of laziness/absentmindedness, etc., but sometimes Plagiarism Troll is just hoping no one will notice.

[Fonceai]

Ahhh...

Yeah... Canned Troll is hard to cite. I'm on other forums as well, and I know what you mean.

I wouldn't so much call it Plagiarism as I would Lazy.

Though one must wonder about the motivation for it... sometimes that website would also contain a contradiction to what someone quoted.

I actually saw it happen once on a completely different site... a link was used as reference and they quoted the text, but the text they quoted was done in such a way as it omitted the words following the text which actually stated that the text that was quoted is false.

It would be like saying, "2 + 2 = 5 is obviously false" and then someone quoting it as "2 + 2 = 5" and then saying that it came from Math.com - World of Math Online or something.

[rez]

Quote by: Fonceai Infraction Troll Reversal Dismissive Troll Drama Troll Parrot Troll .

I will add one to that list. The Patrol Troll. A Patrol Troll is one who frequents around forums looking for people that troll and then troll in the anti-troll forum.

[Fonceai]

Quite the Catch-22, then.

Posting in a thread about trolling makes one a troll...

Guess you're in that group now too, eh?

[phoenix_fire]

Let's see...

Guilty-troll-trolls-loudest Troll: self-explanatory
You're-so-vain Troll: He prob'ly thinks this post is about him.
Spam Troll: these usually get kicked off pretty quick, though.

[Zhavric]

Evangelical war on evolution

Is there a way we can rig this thread to repost everything Fonceai says directly here? It would save us all so much time.

[Fonceai]

Was there a specific post you would like to cite as trollish, or are you just being overall insulting? That would be against the rules, you know.

[Zhavric]

Where to start?

Quote by: Fonceai I don't care about your migraines. I'd rather have a good discussion without your baiting, attacking, or trolling the same comments about me. Shove the "post-modernist" stuff where the sun doesn't shine and leave me alone.

[Fonceai]

Could you specify how it's trolling, or are you just attacking?

[Zhavric]

Sure.

From wiki:

In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.

Your words: "Shove ... stuff where the sun doesn't shine... "

Notice how the bolded sections correspond?

[bishop]

pretty ironic that we have yet another fonceai vs. zhavric duel going on within a thread about trolls...

[phoenix_fire]

Quote by: Zhavric Sure. From wiki: In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others. Your words: "Shove ... stuff where the sun doesn't shine... " Notice how the bolded sections correspond?

Sans context, I would tend to agree, Z...but I know from experience how much you bait people in an argument, so I give you no points for this one. But you can still try again tomorrow for the $20,000 here on Family Feud.

[Fonceai]

Quote by: bishop pretty ironic that we have yet another fonceai vs. zhavric duel going on within a thread about trolls...

How about you start acting like a moderator and do something about it?

I'm basically done here, so pay close attention to how much it continues.

You don't have the luxury of an opinion in disputes.

Your job is to take the side of Volconvo itself and keeping the peace.

I nominate you for Mod Troll... having an opinion on issues where you should be doing your job.

Trust me, I noticed the irony and won't post here again.

[Zhavric]

The irony here is that I have been on really good behavior of late. The problem with debating online is the tendency of reading a "tone" into the posts of others. Once you begin hearing it, it's hard to imagine that person posting without it.

"Hello!? That CENSORED said hello to me!? I'll report him. I'll flame him. That CENSORED."

[Jason]

Unfortunately, I really don't think this thread can be very productive. The very nature of it invites flame wars. If someone really is a troll, our moderating team will take care of it. But, either way, this will only make matters worse. I'm going to go ahead and close this one.