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The_Genius · Jan 22, 2007, 03:30 pm

It's the English football (soccer) league for those of you don't know... Probably the most competitive, popular, talked about football (soccer) league in the world.

I was hoping in this topic I could discuss matches, transfers, gossips with other passionate football fans...

**Matt W** · Jan 22, 2007, 03:56 pm

Which teams do you happen to support? I'm a Magpie follower 'cause of family, but the Royals are my local team....glad to see them doing well. More of a vague supporter than a fan, but happy to talk about it!

The_Genius · Jan 23, 2007, 12:25 am

Hey there man! I support Man United... Lol.. Arsenal gave us a hiding this weekend, but we will survive! So you ain't got a favorite team in the big league? Liverpool? Chelsea? Villa?

**Jack** · Jan 23, 2007, 12:33 am

Educate a yank, Matt W.
When you say local team, are your leagues truly made up of local lads or are they more like our football, where a team represents a town but in reality is made up of players from all over the country? I think I know, but since I have a chance to learn for sure from an informed source...

**Matt W** · Jan 23, 2007, 04:02 am

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Hey there man! I support Man United... Lol.. Arsenal gave us a hiding this weekend, but we will survive! So you ain't got a favorite team in the big league? Liverpool? Chelsea? Villa?

Man U?!?! Man U?!?! Damn glory-hunter that you are!

Still, at least Chelsea got thumped by Liverpool, so the title race is still open. By the way - Magpies = Newcastle, Royals = Reading. Respectively 12th & 9th in the Premiership (not bad for a newly promoted team).

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When you say local team, are your leagues truly made up of local lads or are they more like our football, where a team represents a town but in reality is made up of players from all over the country? I think I know, but since I have a chance to learn for sure from an informed source...

Ish, it's the latter case. They're based locally, but the players are not only from all across the country, but all across the world - our football being a truly international sport.

As an example....Newcastle's key men are Turkish, Northern Irish, and...Nigerian, if memory serves, with a couple of Englishmen, whilst Reading have a S.Korean, an Icelander, an American, an Irishman...etc. Sounds like the lead-up to a bad joke, but that's the case. In the really big teams - like Manchester United or Chelsea - they have the spending power to procure the best players from all over the world - so they do.

The_Genius · Jan 23, 2007, 02:56 pm

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Man U?!?! Man U?!?! Damn glory-hunter that you are!

Still, at least Chelsea got thumped by Liverpool, so the title race is still open. By the way - Magpies = Newcastle, Royals = Reading. Respectively 12th & 9th in the Premiership (not bad for a newly promoted team).

Matt!!! That's unfair. Why english fans call us "glory hunters" when we support Man United?

Man United actually came to play in SA few months ago.

yeah man.. Newcastle got some fantastic young guys in the team, despite the thrashing in the hands of Barmingham. LoL O. Martins is awesome.

Chelsea drew with Reading at home two weeks ago if I remember correctly. Reading is doing much better than Watford and Sheffield.

But yeah... Gooners (arsenal) got some awesome players. They will probably take FA Cup. Too soon to say though....

The_Genius · Jan 23, 2007, 03:44 pm

Looks like it will be a Chelsea Vs Arsenal in the Qarling Cup Final...

**Matt W** · Jan 23, 2007, 06:34 pm

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Matt!!! That's unfair. Why english fans call us "glory hunters" when we support Man United?

Because Man U have always been on the look-out for the main chance and the money!

Most of their fan base is overseas these days - they're hardly a local club anymore!

Just peered at Reading so far this season - Won 10, Drawn 4, Lost 10 - pretty good - and Steve Coppell (the manager) has got a great head on his shoulders - refusing to even talk about anything apart from Premiership survival!

Fonceai · Jan 24, 2007, 02:36 pm

That's one thing I enjoyed about sports when I lived in Europe.

Much more connection between the players and the locals.

Maybe not like Isherwood said with being truly local, but definitely not gods out of reach of the common folk.

**Matt W** · Jan 24, 2007, 05:41 pm

*nods* I'd say. It's getting a bit like that with the bigger clubs, but overall people are fairly level-headed.

Leveller · Jan 24, 2007, 08:15 pm

Fantastic to see the Royals doing so well, I remember at the start of the season, all the pundits saying they would struggle to stay up. Its great when a side like Reading shows up clubs worth hundreds of times more than them.

My only concern is that reading will do what Wigan have done, have a honeymoon season then slip down next season. There garanteed safe for now, but if they lose key players like Doyle and Shorey, they could be in real trouble next season.

And my other local side Wycombe holding Chelsea at home, a team worth 3,000 times as much, only managed a draw. shame about the 2nd leg.

Gods_Mercenary · Jan 24, 2007, 08:41 pm

I wonder why soccer isn't big in the U.S., we far prefer our American football to your football. Then again, this is the nation that has rejected every attempt to teach us the metric system like a bad joke.

Leveller · Jan 25, 2007, 01:33 pm

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I wonder why soccer isn't big in the U.S., we far prefer our American football to your football. Then again, this is the nation that has rejected every attempt to teach us the metric system like a bad joke.

My understanding is that its more to do with with the larger sports in the US like baseball and Anerican football stopping soccer from developing a foothold. There also just isn't the history and tradition behind football in the states that you would find in other countries. Baseball etc are seen as the traditional sports of north America with hero worship and tradition on a par with Football in the UK and Europe

The_Genius · Jan 25, 2007, 01:50 pm

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Because Man U have always been on the look-out for the main chance and the money!

Most of their fan base is overseas these days - they're hardly a local club anymore!

Just peered at Reading so far this season - Won 10, Drawn 4, Lost 10 - pretty good - and Steve Coppell (the manager) has got a great head on his shoulders - refusing to even talk about anything apart from Premiership survival!

Lol... yeah.. It's the most popular club in the world!

But still, if you notice the number of attendants (avg 75000) at Ol Trafford, you wouldn't doubt for a second that it has one of the most passionate local fan base.

**Matt W** · Jan 25, 2007, 02:09 pm

Hardly. Significant numbers of those seats are owned by corporate hospitality places, companies, and people who aren't 'local' to Manchester. Just like with Chelsea!

The_Genius · Jan 26, 2007, 01:54 pm

Lol... yeah... that's one thing I hate, which is US take over of best English football club. Its more like passion Vs money. Although, Liverpool could do with some extra funds and stop relying on players like Herpia and Luis Garcia. They suck.

**Chris the Chees** · Jan 28, 2007, 02:20 pm

I don't really follow football anymore, I used to support Liverpool back in my childhood and I still like to hear of them doing well.

whitehorse08 · Jan 29, 2007, 06:24 pm

Howdy, talkin about football ay. im australian and i moved to england by myself to play for west brom. class first team, decent youth academy. anyone fancy a chat?

G. Adams · Jan 31, 2007, 09:32 am

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Howdy, talkin about football ay. im australian and i moved to england by myself to play for west brom. class first team, decent youth academy. anyone fancy a chat?

I don't suppose you got your handle from a particular monument?

Well done Reading yesterday, good win.

whitehorse08 · Jan 31, 2007, 09:46 am

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I don't suppose you got your handle from a particular monument?

Well done Reading yesterday, good win.

i dont quite get it, im not exactly the brightest tool in the shed, perhaps lay it out in layman terms?

Jan 22, 2007, 03:30 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
The_Genius ~Ruthless Debater~ Location: Cape Town, South Africa. Posts: 433	English Premier League... It's the English football (soccer) league for those of you don't know... Probably the most competitive, popular, talked about football (soccer) league in the world. I was hoping in this topic I could discuss matches, transfers, gossips with other passionate football fans... www.islamawareness.net

Jan 22, 2007, 03:56 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,104	Which teams do you happen to support? I'm a Magpie follower 'cause of family, but the Royals are my local team....glad to see them doing well. More of a vague supporter than a fan, but happy to talk about it! I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

Jan 23, 2007, 12:25 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
The_Genius ~Ruthless Debater~ Location: Cape Town, South Africa. Posts: 433	Hey there man! I support Man United... Lol.. Arsenal gave us a hiding this weekend, but we will survive! So you ain't got a favorite team in the big league? Liverpool? Chelsea? Villa? www.islamawareness.net

Jan 23, 2007, 12:33 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,869	Educate a yank, Matt W. When you say local team, are your leagues truly made up of local lads or are they more like our football, where a team represents a town but in reality is made up of players from all over the country? I think I know, but since I have a chance to learn for sure from an informed source... The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Jan 23, 2007, 03:44 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
The_Genius ~Ruthless Debater~ Location: Cape Town, South Africa. Posts: 433	Looks like it will be a Chelsea Vs Arsenal in the Qarling Cup Final... www.islamawareness.net

Jan 24, 2007, 02:36 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
Fonceai BANNED Location: New York Posts: 4,217	That's one thing I enjoyed about sports when I lived in Europe. Much more connection between the players and the locals. Maybe not like Isherwood said with being truly local, but definitely not gods out of reach of the common folk.

Jan 24, 2007, 05:41 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,104	nods I'd say. It's getting a bit like that with the bigger clubs, but overall people are fairly level-headed. I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

Jan 24, 2007, 08:15 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Leveller radial spaghetti Location: YOU Posts: 23	Fantastic to see the Royals doing so well, I remember at the start of the season, all the pundits saying they would struggle to stay up. Its great when a side like Reading shows up clubs worth hundreds of times more than them. My only concern is that reading will do what Wigan have done, have a honeymoon season then slip down next season. There garanteed safe for now, but if they lose key players like Doyle and Shorey, they could be in real trouble next season. And my other local side Wycombe holding Chelsea at home, a team worth 3,000 times as much, only managed a draw. shame about the 2nd leg.

Jan 24, 2007, 08:41 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Gods_Mercenary Altruism Assassin Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,795	I wonder why soccer isn't big in the U.S., we far prefer our American football to your football. Then again, this is the nation that has rejected every attempt to teach us the metric system like a bad joke. “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” -Albert Einstein

Jan 25, 2007, 02:09 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,104	Hardly. Significant numbers of those seats are owned by corporate hospitality places, companies, and people who aren't 'local' to Manchester. Just like with Chelsea! I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

Jan 26, 2007, 01:54 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
The_Genius ~Ruthless Debater~ Location: Cape Town, South Africa. Posts: 433	Lol... yeah... that's one thing I hate, which is US take over of best English football club. Its more like passion Vs money. Although, Liverpool could do with some extra funds and stop relying on players like Herpia and Luis Garcia. They suck. www.islamawareness.net

Jan 28, 2007, 02:20 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
Chris the Chees Moderator Location: Wales Posts: 2,203	I don't really follow football anymore, I used to support Liverpool back in my childhood and I still like to hear of them doing well. Society may be formed so as to exist without crime, without poverty, […] no obstacle whatsoever intervenes at this moment except ignorance to prevent such a state of society. Robert Owen

Jan 29, 2007, 06:24 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
whitehorse08 Sedimentary Rock Posts: 6	Howdy, talkin about football ay. im australian and i moved to england by myself to play for west brom. class first team, decent youth academy. anyone fancy a chat?