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Kuldeep · Oct 3, 2007, 04:26 am

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Interesting...
I gonna do some more meditation, perhaps one hour a day, two hours saturday and sunday. Gotta tell you the result in a month or so, since it's a long-term exercise. ''Being Closer to myself'' is what I felt like, the batter english language can do. But it was very interesting Praxius, very interesting indeed...

In extreme and real meditation, time is not of any significance. Quality has the result. You could be in extreme peace for years but you would feel it just a moment no sooner you come into real pain giving real situation of life. Just like when you are in the company of your loved one, even your longer company seems less. while; your short time company with a person you hate seems to be very long. Peace is due to a state of mind and time feeling is variable according to the situation. I hope I am clear to you !!!!

Praxius · Oct 3, 2007, 11:41 am

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You became infinite for a limited time, fortunately or unfortunately! Fortunately, since you could tell me your experience and thus proved some truth in what I think about universe and God. Unfortunately, because you missed to be permanently in that state as that is the final goal to achieve eternal peace by individual consciousness like you and me !!!!

Oh don't get me wrong..... I wouldn't want to remain in that "Existence" for a long period of time..... I know and feel I don't belong there yet.... and in the last couple of experiences there, afterwards I always ended up with quite the uncomfortible headache.

Kinda like swimming under water.... it's preaceful, fun, and all that good stuff.... but you eventually have to come up for air.

I don't need to be in this place to make my life happy, as I already know and believe this exists, and that knowlege alone helps me prioritize the important things in my life, and not to dwell too much on the little things.

It's like a balance..... when we are born.... we are here.... when we die or do not exist in this existence, we are there.

Kuldeep · Oct 4, 2007, 06:51 am

Praxius, never mind enjoy any sitution you want to. As said earlier also, you are the master of your ownself. Whatever you choose you get it, or at least trry to get it.

You have choosen a wron example of swiming under water like situation where you need air. I would use a dream like situation where you have everything but you break the dream since you want the change in situation. Change always refreshes the mind. That way you might have got tired of that situation and wanted to return to real wordly situation since it is more prominent in your mind than rare exoerience you had. There could be persons who would love to continue there infinitely !!

Praxius · Oct 4, 2007, 12:29 pm

Well my relation to water was the part where I mentioned that the longer I experienced this, the more days that followed with bad headaches.

As a dream you can wake out of, you can change situations, you have some level of control, but each time I experienced this, it was constant in it's details, the method of my influence that brought me there was an active narcotic which in a way forced me into this experience (where as it was extremely difficult to know when I wanted to come out, or when enough was enough.

The longer I stayed in this "existence" so to speak, the more everything merged into one singular moment and time, the more difficult it was becoming to seperate common things.... eventually one point got to where I could no longer determine with great certainty my rights and wrongs..... (What someone should do and not do)

I could have pulled a knife and stabbed someone and thought it was a normal thing to do.... the only balance I had to keep my normal morality was to think of each situation and try to remember what I did in the past.

Since I didn't stab someone in the past, it was then logical to assume I shouldn't now.

I attribute this loss of morality and simple things to the prolonged exposure I had in this experience. My short experiences were fine.... but the ones I tried to stay in for a period of time to better understand, I began to see that the more I understood of this other existence, I temporally lossed some understanding of this existence..... in quite a frightening manner one time.

But it always came back in time.

But that's why I related it to being in a flow of water or under water..... you have a bit of direction to where you want to go and what you want to see, but in the end, the water has the final say. Stay too long deep under, and you'll loose your air and your normal life..... and this was the closest instinctive feeling I got from these experiences.... as I'm quite the avid swimmer. I'm pretty good in the water, but I never take it for granted.

Oct 4, 2007, 06:51 am	#83 (permalink) (top)
Kuldeep Kuldeep Location: Bhopa, M.P, India Posts: 1,713	Praxius, never mind enjoy any sitution you want to. As said earlier also, you are the master of your ownself. Whatever you choose you get it, or at least trry to get it. You have choosen a wron example of swiming under water like situation where you need air. I would use a dream like situation where you have everything but you break the dream since you want the change in situation. Change always refreshes the mind. That way you might have got tired of that situation and wanted to return to real wordly situation since it is more prominent in your mind than rare exoerience you had. There could be persons who would love to continue there infinitely !! Last edited by Kuldeep; Oct 4, 2007 at 06:58 am. Reason: Correction

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Oct 4, 2007, 12:29 pm	#84 (permalink) (top)
Praxius Mass'Debator Posts: 4,730	Well my relation to water was the part where I mentioned that the longer I experienced this, the more days that followed with bad headaches. As a dream you can wake out of, you can change situations, you have some level of control, but each time I experienced this, it was constant in it's details, the method of my influence that brought me there was an active narcotic which in a way forced me into this experience (where as it was extremely difficult to know when I wanted to come out, or when enough was enough. The longer I stayed in this "existence" so to speak, the more everything merged into one singular moment and time, the more difficult it was becoming to seperate common things.... eventually one point got to where I could no longer determine with great certainty my rights and wrongs..... (What someone should do and not do) I could have pulled a knife and stabbed someone and thought it was a normal thing to do.... the only balance I had to keep my normal morality was to think of each situation and try to remember what I did in the past. Since I didn't stab someone in the past, it was then logical to assume I shouldn't now. I attribute this loss of morality and simple things to the prolonged exposure I had in this experience. My short experiences were fine.... but the ones I tried to stay in for a period of time to better understand, I began to see that the more I understood of this other existence, I temporally lossed some understanding of this existence..... in quite a frightening manner one time. But it always came back in time. But that's why I related it to being in a flow of water or under water..... you have a bit of direction to where you want to go and what you want to see, but in the end, the water has the final say. Stay too long deep under, and you'll loose your air and your normal life..... and this was the closest instinctive feeling I got from these experiences.... as I'm quite the avid swimmer. I'm pretty good in the water, but I never take it for granted.