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Clarence · Mar 4, 2007, 02:22 am

sonart was a great debator.
based on this criteria.

1.he was all business. I mean he wasn't impersonal exactly. Just to the point and above namecalling with the other posters. not terribly verbose. somewhat boring but

2. put together well structured arguments. Definitly wasn't prone to erratic statements. There was no mystery in his position

3. he didn't just put forth statements. nearly the entire post was orange.

Some of the newer members missed a good debator. I believe Sonart was a major part of the atmosphere here when I joined.

**Jack** · Mar 4, 2007, 02:59 am

We still don't know what happened to him, either. Frustrating. Just hope it wasn't anything too bizarre.

leftcider · Mar 5, 2007, 12:24 am

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We still don't know what happened to him, either. Frustrating. Just hope it wasn't anything too bizarre.

Perhaps he was the leader of the ill-fated Swiss Liechtenstein annexation mission?

PatrickHenry · Mar 5, 2007, 12:51 am

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Quote by: Isherwood

We still don't know what happened to him, either. Frustrating. Just hope it wasn't anything too bizarre.

You reside in the same city...Why don't you hit a Starbucks together?

**Jack** · Mar 5, 2007, 12:54 am

Dude, do you know how many Starbucks are out here? Actually, I don't either. Anyway, even though I live on coffee, I don't think I'd survive just hitting all the Starbucks in a single neighborhood.

I got the impression he lived somewhere near the beach. That would narrow it down to about 60 miles of shoreline.

PatrickHenry · Mar 5, 2007, 01:04 am

No...seriously. Why didn't you guys ever have a coffee just to see what the other dude is really like. You could probably still e-mail him.

It was cool meeting Milton, Osborn and gr8fuldaniel...

**Jack** · Mar 5, 2007, 01:11 am

I've thought about it. Might still follow through. It almost seems rude, though. Ghosts of the internet reaching through the ether to tap you on the shoulder in the real world. Brrr...

PatrickHenry · Mar 5, 2007, 01:21 am

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Quote by: Isherwood

I've thought about it. Might still follow through. It almost seems rude, though. Ghosts of the internet reaching through the ether to tap you on the shoulder in the real world. Brrr...

Damn! We're real people, not ghosts!

Ghosts don't drink coffee...at least I think they don't...:eek:

**Jack** · Mar 5, 2007, 01:26 am

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We're real people, not ghosts!

Some days I'm not so sure. At least 'till I've had my first cup of the day.

dilligras · Mar 5, 2007, 09:47 am

I remember Sonart from some of my first arguments at Volconvo........actually, we started out by agreeing on one thing here (post #86), and wound up arguing about something else.

He was certainly more balanced than many of the others I encountered there, several of whom also appear on most of the above lists.

As for my "top ten", I don't think I've accumulated enough candidates to fill a list half so long......but Sonart and fonceai would be possibilities, were they still participating.

Carry on.

ZNFYRH · Mar 5, 2007, 11:03 am

Nice avatar, leftcider.

As an outsider, I noticed that many of the best debaters on this forum were unnoticed because they were, to be blunt, assholes. I think if they would only have written their posts and then edited out the attitude they would have been seen as some of the great ones.

dilligras · Mar 5, 2007, 12:10 pm

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Nice avatar, leftcider.

As an outsider, I noticed that many of the best debaters on this forum were unnoticed because they were, to be blunt, assholes. I think if they would only have written their posts and then edited out the attitude they would have been seen as some of the great ones.

Waaal pard, I don't know about the "best debater" part, but I'll readily admit to the other -- guilty as charged.

Of course, I've never denied it, unlike some others.....(post #267)

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I already know I'm an a$$, so you reminding me constantly as though it were some secret profundity of yours is a bit annoying--especially as you appear to concurrently deny your own place on the victory pedestal of a$$-hood.

As you were.

Mar 4, 2007, 02:59 am	#62 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,165	We still don't know what happened to him, either. Frustrating. Just hope it wasn't anything too bizarre. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Mar 5, 2007, 12:54 am	#65 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,165	Dude, do you know how many Starbucks are out here? Actually, I don't either. Anyway, even though I live on coffee, I don't think I'd survive just hitting all the Starbucks in a single neighborhood. I got the impression he lived somewhere near the beach. That would narrow it down to about 60 miles of shoreline. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Mar 5, 2007, 01:04 am	#66 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,453	No...seriously. Why didn't you guys ever have a coffee just to see what the other dude is really like. You could probably still e-mail him. It was cool meeting Milton, Osborn and gr8fuldaniel... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Mar 5, 2007, 01:11 am	#67 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,165	I've thought about it. Might still follow through. It almost seems rude, though. Ghosts of the internet reaching through the ether to tap you on the shoulder in the real world. Brrr... The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Mar 5, 2007, 09:47 am	#70 (permalink) (top)
dilligras redneck scum Location: Cut n Shoot, Texas Posts: 835	I remember Sonart from some of my first arguments at Volconvo........actually, we started out by agreeing on one thing here (post #86), and wound up arguing about something else. He was certainly more balanced than many of the others I encountered there, several of whom also appear on most of the above lists. As for my "top ten", I don't think I've accumulated enough candidates to fill a list half so long......but Sonart and fonceai would be possibilities, were they still participating. Carry on. Why do I not trust the left? Could it be that familiarity has reared the distasteful expectation sired by past offense? Only The Shadow knows...

Mar 4, 2007, 02:22 am	#61 (permalink) (top)
Clarence pregnant with truth Posts: 2,419	sonart was a great debator. based on this criteria. 1.he was all business. I mean he wasn't impersonal exactly. Just to the point and above namecalling with the other posters. not terribly verbose. somewhat boring but 2. put together well structured arguments. Definitly wasn't prone to erratic statements. There was no mystery in his position 3. he didn't just put forth statements. nearly the entire post was orange. Some of the newer members missed a good debator. I believe Sonart was a major part of the atmosphere here when I joined.

Mar 5, 2007, 11:03 am	#71 (permalink) (top)
ZNFYRH Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375	Nice avatar, leftcider. As an outsider, I noticed that many of the best debaters on this forum were unnoticed because they were, to be blunt, assholes. I think if they would only have written their posts and then edited out the attitude they would have been seen as some of the great ones.