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Old May 7, 2004, 09:38 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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If anyone here thinks that 8 or so Soldiers are to blame for the activities we saw in those Photos...Your Crazy. That came down from the DOD or CIA, and now 8 or so Soldiers are supposed to accept the blame? If this is supposed to be the Anti-Gay Administration, I'd hate to see what a Pro Gay Administration might do. Coming next week, Photos of forced Homosexual activity on Minors! I saw Rummi checking his watch and crossing his arms and I see a Man that doesn't care about America. Now this is Our Country, this Satanic vehicle that Lies in order to move to War, then has No plan for the War, then allows Us to fall into a Mess of a Magnitude that we may never know the End of. Shame on You Dubya, Shame on You Cheney, Shame on You Rummi, Shame on You Wolfi, Shame on You All!
America needs to cut this Vile group of Hitleristic cross wired Heathens from Our Ranks ASAP!


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Old May 7, 2004, 09:41 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Oh jeez...
And FDR masterminded Pearl Harbor.


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Old May 7, 2004, 09:53 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Ok, Your thinking for Yourself now, congratulations! If 9/11 doesn't happen...Afghanistan's Herion (75% of the worlds) is still banned by the Taliban, Pipelines aren't built that will power a plant in Southern India...a plant owned by Enron! Iraq never happens, Dubya doesn't get revenge for Saddam trying to kill his father, Cheney & Haliburton don't get lucrative Oil contracts, and Israel is still having to worry about Saddam. 9/11 does happen though and Enron makes money, Haliburton makes money, Karzi a former Unocal employee gets to be President, Carlyle group led by President 41 makes a TON of Money, Bush gets your mind off our horrible Job losses, and all this goes on while Your asleep aparently! You need to read this www.wanttoknow.info , if anything can help You, that might. As far as FDR goes, If Japan doesn't strike Pearl Hitler takes over the world. If 9/11 doesn't happen...what horrible dictator with the ability to not only strike Us but to conquer the world takes Power? 0 , Zilch, Nada, NOBODY. You must still believe BS like "Immenent Threat", WMD everywhere, "Slam Dunk"...I'm a Republican, and I jumped off this ship during the 2000 election, if you wanna stay on while it sinks and is labeled the worst Presidency ever you go right ahead.


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Old May 7, 2004, 10:11 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Oh jeez...
And FDR masterminded Pearl Harbor.
Actually, he did. See Robert Stinnett's book, Day of Deceit

From: http://www.independent.org/tii/news/001207...07Stinnett.html
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Roosevelt believed that provoking Japan into an attack on Hawaii was the only option he had in 1941 to overcome the powerful America First non-interventionist movement led by aviation hero Charles Lindbergh. These anti-war views were shared by 80 percent of the American public from 1940 to 1941. Though Germany had conquered most of Europe, and her U-Boats were sinking American ships in the Atlantic Ocean—including warships—Americans wanted nothing to do with “Europe’s War.”

However, Germany made a strategic error. She, along with her Axis partner, Italy, signed the mutual assistance treaty with Japan, the Tripartite Pact, on September 27, 1940. Ten days later, Lieutenant Commander Arthur McCollum, a U.S. Naval officer in the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), saw an opportunity to counter the U.S. isolationist movement by provoking Japan into a state of war with the U.S., triggering the mutual assistance provisions of the Tripartite Pact, and bringing America into World War II.

Memorialized in McCollum’s secret memo dated October 7, 1940, and recently obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, the ONI proposal called for eight provocations aimed at Japan. Its centerpiece was keeping the might of the U.S. Fleet based in the Territory of Hawaii as a lure for a Japanese attack.

President Roosevelt acted swiftly. The very next day, October 8, 1940, the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Fleet, Admiral James O. Richardson, was summoned to the Oval Office and told of the provocative plan by the President. In a heated argument with FDR, the admiral objected to placing his sailors and ships in harm’s way. Richardson was then fired and in his place FDR selected an obscure naval officer, Rear Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, to command the fleet in Hawaii. Kimmel was promoted to a four-star admiral and took command on February 1, 1941. In a related appointment, Walter Short was promoted from Major General to a three-star Lieutenant General and given command of U.S. Army troops in Hawaii.
Read the rest of the article or better yet, read the book.

If you want to sarcastically indicate something you find impossible to believe, you had best use another story. This one leads where you don't wanna go...


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Old May 7, 2004, 10:15 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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edit: I wrote a lot, then remembered it is impossible to argue with conspiracy theorists.
Just do more research, read a few more books on America's entry into the war.
I've researched it so much, I've read Day of Deceit, the situation and the actiosn are not not presented in the entirety.


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Old May 7, 2004, 10:27 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Please.

Is this the only book on Pearl Harbor and/or America's entry into World War Two you've read?

I have read the book, he leaves out much.
This is the most offensive conspiracy theory to me...

I think you have too much related the actions of FDR leading to the Japanese attack with FDR knew it was coming all along and did his best to help it.

Next time you want to act holier-than-thou, make sure you know what you are talking about.
I like offending you. I have read a lotta stuff. Stinnett's book is more credible. And I don't believe you have read it.

Holier? This type of behavior is evident from about 1913 on, and forms a clear and consistent pattern of government abuse.

Do some reading. Or do you know it all already?


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Old May 8, 2004, 12:10 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I'm not trying to Offend, I'm trying to Educate. If anyone supports this Administration after the Photos of detained Children being forced into having Homosexual sex are released, after the Video of an Iraqi Woman being Raped by an American Soldier, or the Videos of Detainees being forced to masturbate, then We'll See what "Kind" of people still support this administration! I'm advising all Republicans to call for an Immediate Impeachment of Bush, so We can find a Real candidate before November. We really can't afford to lose the Whitehouse to Dubya's Liberal frat brother.


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Old May 8, 2004, 01:27 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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See what I mean.
Already I'm a liar.


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Old May 24, 2004, 09:03 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Anyone who thinks the actions of those 8 or so soldiers was orchestrated by the DOD or STate department is crazy.
Young Shame on You.
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Old May 27, 2004, 11:39 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Everything that happens in Iraq is G W Bush's fault.
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Old May 27, 2004, 11:45 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Anyone who thinks the actions of those 8 or so soldiers was orchestrated by the DOD or STate department is crazy.
Young Shame on You.
Quite a few sources have been posted in here showing it is a lot more than 8 soldiers doing frat-boy stunts. You seem to disagree, do you have a source that it was only 8?


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