If abortion is wrong, why are there...........

[prettyredhead]

If abortion is sooo wrong, and adoption is the only alternative, then explain to me why there are at least a million foster kids waiting for homes. WHy are they not adopted? Explain the reasoning behind those seeking to adopt, and passing by a million older kids awaiting homes. Do they want to be a parent, or not/ Why on earth do people go overseas to adopt little chink babies, when there are at least 500 thousand little babies, of all races, available to adopt now?
How can one be so opposed to abortions, yet offers nothing to those already born kids, who have no love of anyone, including their "birth" parents. Just because they are over 5 years old. Explain this to me..... and damaged kids are not a good reply. WHy wait until a baby is available, I think if you are seeking to adopt, the age of the child should not matter. Period. If you want to be parents, you can be in a few months, not years. Most WANT a baby, however is a child over 5 too old to love, if so, you are sick and deserve no children at all. There is a divine reason why one cannot reproduce.
tell me, if you are against abortion, what can you offer as a solution to the millions of already born, orphans. Why do you seek to place them last on the list of adoptable kids? Why must you try to force someone to have a child, so you may adopt it, but there are already a million little kids available that you CAN adopt? It makes no sense, except to prove that most are ego driven, selfish and cruel people waiting to adopt. Boy oh boy. Cant wait to GIVE my kid to someone like that.
Have you ever heard a kid say "I wish that people would stop having babies, so I can find a home first." this is sick. And it needs to stop before we can dictate who must give birth, then fight over the babies and ignore the fact that they CAN ADOPT an older child. I say, you get NO CHOICE in ages, or facts about adoptive kids. Either they WANT to parent, or they dont.

[Mr.Vicchio]

So its better to kill the unwanted then to give them a shot at life...

I guess thats one way to look at things, Hitler would be proud.

[GeminiRising]

I'm feeling you, Prettyredhead, about all the older kids who sit in foster homes and wait to be adopted and noone wants them because they are "older" and everyone wants a little baby to raise up from the beginnig. Good point that you have brought up.

My question is, if one gives the unwanted a chance at life, what kind of life will they have? I'm curious how Hilter figures into all this? Wasen't he basically about exterminating the races that he did not consider pure enough to exist on this planet? Among other things....Hilter was a real whack job IMO.

[Downwiththestereotype]

Perhaps you woul;d force those women to look after there own unwanted children, which would seem the only alternative rulling out abortion and increasing the burdon on the foster system.

But do you really want children being raised by parents that dont want them? tahts a rescipe for abuse and neglect and kids growing up to become even more troublesome for society.

As far as I am concerened there are 2 sets of rights in conflict, the rights of the mother and the rightsd of the unvborn child. My personal perspective is to give prioty to the rights of the living (incidently including those in foster homes). nThis is not a throuw away comment of mine, Ive thought long and hard about my stance.

I also find it very intresting that so many men seem to trake a moral high ground over women who want abbortions. I find it quite dispicable infact that so many people assume that abortion is a descision reached lightly, even if it is used as contreception.

Its time the pro life camp sided with the living.

[OberonDOtherseid]

The rights are on the side of the living, the child in the womb is a living being who by consequence of the host has life. Let the host take responsibility.

[Logjam]

Quote by: prettyredhead If abortion is sooo wrong, and adoption is the only alternative, then explain to me why there are at least a million foster kids waiting for homes. WHy are they not adopted? Explain the reasoning behind those seeking to adopt, and passing by a million older kids awaiting homes.

Your thought here is absolutely irrevelant to the abortion question. The question is: what right do we have to take the life from unborn babies?

You are talking about what should be done with unwanted children right? Taking a page from your book, why don't we put them against a wall and shoot them? The only difference between abortion and murder, as we understand the two terms today, is just a moment in time. That moment being the instant of birth. What difference does a few days, or even a few years make?

You got unwanted kids? Then line them up and slip them the juice. It's in perfect character for the Left. Unwanted children? Kill them.

[Logjam]

Quote by: GeminiRising I'm feeling you, Prettyredhead, about all the older kids who sit in foster homes and wait to be adopted and noone wants them because they are "older" and everyone wants a little baby to raise up from the beginnig. Good point that you have brought up. My question is, if one gives the unwanted a chance at life, what kind of life will they have?

They can have a fine life. You put the kids in what we call an orphanage. You give them rules. You treat them with respect. You send them to school, you do the best that you can to nurture them.

A great many kids have grown to successful adults who lived in orphanages, or foster homes.

Most children have a wonderful potential. Even those who come from weird backgrounds.

[Logjam]

Quote by: Downwiththestereotype Perhaps you woul;d force those women to look after there own unwanted children,

There is not such thing as an unwanted child. In this country today, a great many parents have to go abroad to find children to adopt. So unless the child has a birth defect I doubt that there will be a problem with placeing the kids with an family who want do adopt.

There are some problems here though. Often times the adoption agencies makes it almost impossible to adopt. So, if the process was made cleaner, easier; I doubt that there's be any such thing as an "unwanted child".

[JayStyle]

You are missing the point, for those who are pro-life. The thing is, there are actual reasons that substantiate the stance on Pro-Choice. Think of it this way, your wife is pregnant, however the embryo is trapped in a potentially fatal place of her canal. I am not a medical specialist, so I forget the scientific term. If u're wife proceeds to allow the embryo to grow to become a child, and give birth, ur wife is met with certain death.

Now, you may say, "well, she has lived her life, the kid didn't ask to be here, save him/her". Okay, so what if the mother wants to live? Sure her family wants her to. What if this mother is a 14 year old rape victim? She will die at the age of 14 after being raped due to a tragic pregnancy condiction. You ban abortion, this young mother will die, and the child has an extremely low chance of survival, if all else, growing up as a normal healthy individual. What happens to her choice? Your ban on abortion for her would be basically putting her in the shoes of a Cancer patient...the doctor tells you that you will die and when you will die.

Now, I believe their should be regulations for abortion...some regular person who practices unsafe sex and has a history of abortion, or unsuccessful pregnancies due to shameful neglect and unhealthy activity, should not be allowed to....unless a severe medical or tragic incident (Such as rape) were to occur.

Again, I will also bring up the stance also...it's her body, and the parents' issue and their decision...U have no right to tell someone else whats moral and amoral seeing how they are good people who are just as lost in the world as you and I.

When you take away RIGHTS you take away lives, freedom, civilization. Now, as a conservative, don't you like knowing you have freedoms protected and not raped from you due to the self-righteousness of some stubborn critic?

No one asks to have to make the decision to abort a child....nor does anyone ask to have their child have a terrible life after birth....So dont judge. And don't make a pointless counter-argument to me and my statement "don't judge". I've heard it before lol.

[Son of Belial]

The argument was that there are millions of kids unadopted. They make it almost impossible to adopt. They make it so goddamn expensive, it's cheaper to have your own baby. Make it easier to adopt and this won't be a problem. It's as simple as that.

[PedroG]

i agree i just dont think abortion is the right way of going about things

[Monika87]

I also agree, but in order to have less kids waiting for adoption then abortion is necessary.

[PedroG]

i just dont see killing kids as the moral solution

[Monika87]

Its not the moral solution but there comes a time when morality takes a backseat to doing what right in your life. If you cant offer a kid a good home, education or love (basically a life) then why would you keep it. When most likely youll end up give it up anyways to adoption and risk the fact that they might not be adopted

[PedroG]

weather they get adopted or not at least they had a chance at life. Why should you have control weather a child lives or dies

[Monika87]

Well in the begining the "child" really isnt much, its just a fetus. Your the one that created it so if anyone had "control" over anything it would be you. Also a child doesnt deserve to suffer, or be born into a family thats not ready or cant provide for it. It sucks to kill a living human being but whats worse is for that child to grow up feeling unwanted or without a family probably due to adoption.

[Son of Belial]

Yes because we all know adopted or crippled children could never amount to anything. It's not like one of the most brilliant world-reknowned physicists, Stephen Hawking, was confined to a wheelchair. And it's not like Dave Thomas who became a billionnaire by creating Wendy's restaurant was an adopted high school dropout who never met his real parents. Hell, anyone even remotely damaged in their upbringing will certainly suffer and amount to nothing, so by all means, kill them.

In fact, why stop at abortion? Just smother them with a pillow or throw them in a dumpster. Really, that's much less suffering than having to live with a physical deformity or endure the horrors of adoption. One of my best friends was adopted and I must say that knowing some family out there loved him enough to take him in despite his personal handicaps has truly ruined his life.

Besides, there are too many kids up for adoption anyway, the only solution is to start killing them. Either that or make it easier for families to adopt children. Nah, too obvious, let's just kill them.

I know! We can make big shower rooms that pump poisonous gas in, and then we can burn the bodies. Eh, fuck that. Let's cut out the middleman and just burn them. For that matter, let's cook them and eat them.

After all, sometimes morality has to take a backseat to do what's right.

Oh and I agree 100% that if you create something you should have a say over it, which is why I say parents should be allowed to kill their children at any time for any reason.

[mrchris]

I feel that in a way abortion are wrong but if someone feels that they are not fit enough or cant take care of the baby let that be on their mind. I'm sure it has a long term effect on that person.

[Eva Riley]

I think that abortion is wrong, and no one has the right to end a life. We must think before considering someting that, it's a life. That life has a purpose to be here too.

[Charon]

Quote by: Monika87 I also agree, but in order to have less kids waiting for adoption then abortion is necessary.

That's BS! Try keeping your legs closed for the women, and your dick in your pants for the men. As a by product, you'll have fewer STD's as well.

I know it's an ugly word to most, but RESPONSIBILITY will cure all this crap.