Concrete

[scrappy]

did you know that the production and setting of concreate emits more CO2 gas then cars factories and pwer stations put together. Concreate stops emitting CO2 after a hundred years (on average). If there is anything that is destroying the atmosphere, the environment and is contributing enormously to global warming is it the production of concreate

IT NEEDS TO BE BANNED BEFORE WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON OTHER METHODS OF STOPPING GLOBAL WARMING

[Nono]

Great. But we aren't going to stop it. People (and the politicians they elect) would rather ensure disaster in the long term than sacrifice comfort in the short term.

Until people become seriously frightened by ever-more-frequent disasters, they won't accept any manner of truly effective measures. And by "people" I mean Westerners. The fact is that the process is now being driven by China, India, etc. in a way that makes it all the more inevitable.

And just when even the Republicans were finally catching on (maybe) ...

[Milton Bradley]

What are the realistic alternatives?


Tarmac? ( Isn't that a petroleum product, along with virtually all the other alternatives? )

[RickSp]

Quote by: scrappy did you know that the production and setting of concreate emits more CO2 gas then cars factories and pwer stations put together.

No, and I still don't know it. Care to provide some documentation?

[Scribbler1]

Considering concrete has been around since the Roman Empire, why aren't we all dead by now?

[Chris]

Quote by: scrappy did you know that the production and setting of concreate emits more CO2 gas then cars factories and pwer stations put together. Concreate stops emitting CO2 after a hundred years (on average). If there is anything that is destroying the atmosphere, the environment and is contributing enormously to global warming is it the production of concreate IT NEEDS TO BE BANNED BEFORE WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON OTHER METHODS OF STOPPING GLOBAL WARMING

source?

You mean to tell me that

is worse than


forgive me if I don't believe you.

[RickSp]

The sources I checked indicated that cement was responsible for between 3 and 8% of CO2 emissions, while the burning of fossil fuel accounted for 70-80% .

CO2 Emissions From Cement Production
Global, Regional, and National Fossil Fuel CO2 Emissions
Fossil fuels and cement CO2 emissions

[Chris]

uh yeah, like I thought.

[PatrickHenry]

Allegations need evidence to back 'em up. No studies or citations? Why should we believe you?

[brien]

Quote by: PatrickHenry Allegations need evidence to back 'em up. No studies or citations? Why should we believe you?

We should believe him/her because he/she is a CONCREATIAN:rolleyes:

[Sonart]

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Quote by: scrappy did you know that the production and setting of concreate emits more CO2 gas then cars factories and power stations put together.

Nonsense. (RickSp beat me to it... :) )

--"According to the World Business Council for Sustainable Development...

In the US, cement manufacturing accounts for approximately 1.5 to 2% of CO2 emissions attributable to human activities. Worldwide, cement manufacturing accounts for approximately 5% of CO2 emissions."--

Quote by: scrappy Concreate stops emitting CO2 after a hundred years (on average)

More nonsense.

--"The CO2 emissions due to calcination are formed when the raw materials (mostly limestone and clay) are heated to over 2500°F and CO2 is liberated from the decomposed limestone. As concrete ages, it carbonates and reabsorbs the CO2 released during calcination. Calcination is a necessary key to cement production. Therefore, the focus of reductions in CO2 emissions during cement manufacturing is on energy use."--


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[scrappy]

so you think i just made that up on the spot did ye? funny shit...

concreate used in the roman empire had different 'ingrediants' to it. concreate used these days is a lot worse.

how can you label what i say is rubbish? there is quite a clear lack of intellect in this forum...

cement is different to concreate i think you'll find.

but, hey, whatever - lets not give a flying f*ck about what i say

[Matt W]

how can you label what i say is rubbish? there is quite a clear lack of intellect in this forum...

If you don't back your statements up, expect to be ridiculed. :rolleyes:

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: scrappy so you think i just made that up on the spot did ye? funny shit... concreate used in the roman empire had different 'ingrediants' to it. concreate used these days is a lot worse.

Concrete is portland cement, sand, stone and water. Always has been. Do you have a materials comparison to offer.

cement is different to concreate i think you'll find.

Cement is a component of concrete. It is a common mistake which I blame on the Beverly Hillbillies.

[Sonart]

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Quote by: scrappy but, hey, whatever - lets not give a flying f*ck about what i say

Hey, pumpkin, two of us presented multiple legitimate sources that seem to contradict your claim. Show me a source that supports your claim and we'll take it from there. Otherwise, yeah, you're just makin' sh!t up.

Quote by: scrappy there is quite a clear lack of intellect in this

On this board, intellect isn't just about expressing opinions. If we make a statement of fact, we're prepared to back it up with evidence. It's the intelligent thing to do.

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[RickSp]

Did you know that ballpoint pens cause mass insanity?

Neither did I, but it makes exactly as much sense as scrappy's claims about concrete.

And don't even get me started about spinach.

[Chris]

Spinach is fine as long as someone isn't wiping their ass with it and then selling it to people.

[StrongHeartsWin]

Quote by: Chris Spinach is fine as long as someone isn't wiping their ass with it and then selling it to people.

ROTFLMAO!

DEFINATELY HOPE NOT!!!

Quote by: scrappy ...but, hey, whatever - lets not give a flying f*ck about what i say

Scrappy, maybe we would care about what you say. All we are asking is that you provide documentation of it. Surely that isn`t such a unreasonable request is it?

[Chris]

Yeah, I mean, the original post seemed as more of a piss take instead of actual discussion regarding global warming.

[scrappy]

Quote by: Scribbler1 Concrete is portland cement, sand, stone and water. Always has been. Do you have a materials comparison to offer.

an archiologist will tell you that the concrete used in roman times is significantly stronger then the concete used today - because it it's different matierials. The Riddle of Ancient Roman Concrete, David Moore, PE
this should interest you. i'm a builder and i've never heard of concrete being made like that these days.

and the cement thing. yea they are different things. cement can be used on its own as well as other materials. you can use it to make plaster. its a very versatile substance BUT not good for the skin, lungs or environment nethertheless.

Quote by: RickSp Did you know that ballpoint pens cause mass insanity? Neither did I, but it makes exactly as much sense as scrappy's claims about concrete. And don't even get me started about spinach.

yea but the difference between you and i is that i listen to the truth and not what i want to hear. there are loads of things that statistics show that are insane. like your pen thing and the fact that there is a strong correlation between the rising of global temperature with the decline of pirates at sea. so what the UN need to do is employ more pirates right?

Commentary: Concrete from Bill Hammack's Engineering & Life Radio Program
have a gander at this. it shows that roman concrete is different to modern concrete.

EcoSmart™ Concrete - The Facts
read this and tell me why they change the use of cement if concrete is so 'harmless' as you believe it is. Concrete emits a significant amount of CO2, fact. i've heard it from builders, decoraters and civil worker - people who work with concrete! they should know because they are the dogs bollocks of the construction industry.