Budweiser Cover-Up in Barstow CA

[commonsense]

Okay Guys, Bear with me here....

Let me start off by prefacing what I'm about to say by asking who else can back this up...because my search yielded nothing, but it seems verrry believable:

On the a.m. of 9/11/01 in Barstow, California a Budweiser distributor truck driven by a fine patriotic Amurrican pulled into an Arab-owned convenience store to drop-off his products just like always.

He walks into the place to see a couple of rag-heads clustered around a TV with CNN on the tube with live video of Tower One collapsing into itself like a giant smoking accordion....and all these Arab fuckers are high-fiving each other and patting each other on the back and praising allah!

The Bud driver walks right back out and calls his main distributor about the unamerican activity in disgust and bewildered rage.

After some time, he gets the word to not make the drop, and besides, pull every Bud product off the shelves!

Word spreads all the way to the main headquarters, who confirms the local distributor's decision (remember America was reeling that morning, not knowing just how comprehensive a terror plan they had, we were all on our toes over what targets might be next---a feeling we never should have lost!)

The local distributor soon tells others and by the end of the very same day, the same action is followed by Lay's, Wonderbread, etc because their consignment contract implies the stacking, maintenance of displays, etc is up to the vendor, not the retail store, and they can pull product for their own reasons...

Supposedly, this story was run by all the major newsmedia, then suddenly fell off the radar screen, followed by GWBush and New York's Mayor Bloomberg's advice to "fight terrorism by going shopping"

Somebody please back this story up, because a number of reasons could have caused the turn-around in reporting...

1) A descrimination lawsuit could have been filed by the towelheads because the big companies were not contractually in their right to do what they did and settled, and the media didn't push it, or even squleched the story because the Beer ads are also their major sponsors...

2) The govt feared just how effective and civil such a campaign would be in eradicating illegal mohammedan aliens, shaking-up their community causing the few good ones to bring the agitators in line,
BUT hurting the economy for a good while in the process while the shake-out is going on (because all they care about is the stockmarket, anyway), and they really like the "terror" atmosphere to aggrandize the FBI BATF DHS and local stinking cops, and an effective grassroots means like this to combat terror would put a kink in public asshole support of the crony hiring they wanted to do to "fight terrorism"

3) same conditions and reasons as #2, but add-in that the government agencies somehow cultivated it or turned a blind eye to suspicions of a commercial airliner being used because they've been wanting to go on a hiring spree all along (fit-in your Oklahoma conspiracy theory here) even if it meant some mayhem and civilian lives.

I bring the whole thing up to plant this seed in the minds of all of us good americans:
Look, I'm very multi-cultural, especially when it comes to food, and I don't hate all arabs...

It's just that we're at war! (and i don't mean the dick-dance going on in Iraq)

The 9/11/01 attack was conceived, planned, FUNDED and executed entirely from within our own borders with our own resident rag-heads.

Lefty or Libertarian, none of us agree with the myriad negative after-effects on our nation from the invasion/occupation of Iraq.

So often the international actions of a government do not reflect the wishes of its people, and sadly, even the world's least corrupt govt, ours, is no exception.

So, even though Hassan makes a mean shish-kebab and is a friendly guy,
he still "heard things" down at the local mosque (the falafel stands in Manhattan were all curiously vacant on 9/11)----so let's send him packing!

Not by smashing his store windows and labeling his door with "Arab-NO!" as did the brown shirts on kristallnacht,

Not by setting gas stations ablaze,

Not by violence in the streets,

But by the very capitalistic means they oppose with their terror, and hipocritically FUNDS their methods of bloodshed against us "infidels"

BY BOYCOTTING ALL TOWELHEAD ESTABLISHMENTS UNTIL WE STARVE THEM OUT~!

I'm gonna miss that yummy hummus for a while, but its a worthwhile sacrifice to make...saving american G.I. lives, Iraqi civilian lives, and puts the kibosh on Cheney's underhanded profit motives (if they're really real) all while preserving world opinion.

Any Thoughts?

[VXerick]

It's an urban legend with no truth to it. When you hear these ridiculous stories, go to snopes.com and find out the truth.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/bud.htm

[commonsense]

Okay, maybe too good to be true,

But my post included that possibility.

I was additionally hoping to call attention to the reality that the "War" in Iraq does nothing to stop what happened on 9/11

and that the FUNDING of the next, even more horrific scheme
could be prevented by making that urban legend come true
WITHOUT stooping to the fanatatical methods used by jihadist, OR the Bush administration, for that matter,
---with the added benefit of restoring world relations and lessening
resentment for the occupation that fuels young fanatical desperate minds

...Did anybody see the FRONTLINE interview with the kid whose dad wanted him to blow up, er I mean, grow-up to be a suicide bomber?
I wouldn't call PBS an arm of the Bush administration.

[Osborn F Enready]

I am not saying the original topic was true or false, but I surely would not rest the case on "snopes.com"

Check out their FAQ, and who runs it.

[Mia]

Stop saying towel-head, rag-head, etc.

I heard a story similar to this right after 9/11. If I remember the version I heard, I'll post it.

[Mia]

Originally posted by commonsense, Okay Guys, Bear with me here.... Let me start off by prefacing what I'm about to say by asking who else can back this up...because my search yielded nothing, but it seems verrry believable: On the a.m. of 9/11/01 in Barstow, California a Budweiser distributor truck driven by a fine patriotic Amurrican pulled into an Arab-owned convenience store to drop-off his products just like always. He walks into the place to see a couple of rag-heads clustered around a TV with CNN on the tube with live video of Tower One collapsing into itself like a giant smoking accordion....and all these Arab fuckers are high-fiving each other and patting each other on the back and praising allah! The Bud driver walks right back out and calls his main distributor about the unamerican activity in disgust and bewildered rage. After some time, he gets the word to not make the drop, and besides, pull every Bud product off the shelves! Word spreads all the way to the main headquarters, who confirms the local distributor's decision (remember America was reeling that morning, not knowing just how comprehensive a terror plan they had, we were all on our toes over what targets might be next---a feeling we never should have lost!) The local distributor soon tells others and by the end of the very same day, the same action is followed by Lay's, Wonderbread, etc because their consignment contract implies the stacking, maintenance of displays, etc is up to the vendor, not the retail store, and they can pull product for their own reasons... Supposedly, this story was run by all the major newsmedia, then suddenly fell off the radar screen, followed by GWBush and New York's Mayor Bloomberg's advice to "fight terrorism by going shopping" Somebody please back this story up, because a number of reasons could have caused the turn-around in reporting... 1) A descrimination lawsuit could have been filed by the towelheads because the big companies were not contractually in their right to do what they did and settled, and the media didn't push it, or even squleched the story because the Beer ads are also their major sponsors... 2) The govt feared just how effective and civil such a campaign would be in eradicating illegal mohammedan aliens, shaking-up their community causing the few good ones to bring the agitators in line, BUT hurting the economy for a good while in the process while the shake-out is going on (because all they care about is the stockmarket, anyway), and they really like the "terror" atmosphere to aggrandize the FBI BATF DHS and local stinking cops, and an effective grassroots means like this to combat terror would put a kink in public asshole support of the crony hiring they wanted to do to "fight terrorism" 3) same conditions and reasons as #2, but add-in that the government agencies somehow cultivated it or turned a blind eye to suspicions of a commercial airliner being used because they've been wanting to go on a hiring spree all along (fit-in your Oklahoma conspiracy theory here) even if it meant some mayhem and civilian lives. I bring the whole thing up to plant this seed in the minds of all of us good americans: Look, I'm very multi-cultural, especially when it comes to food, and I don't hate all arabs... It's just that we're at war! (and i don't mean the dick-dance going on in Iraq) The 9/11/01 attack was conceived, planned, FUNDED and executed entirely from within our own borders with our own resident rag-heads. Lefty or Libertarian, none of us agree with the myriad negative after-effects on our nation from the invasion/occupation of Iraq. So often the international actions of a government do not reflect the wishes of its people, and sadly, even the world's least corrupt govt, ours, is no exception. So, even though Hassan makes a mean shish-kebab and is a friendly guy, he still "heard things" down at the local mosque (the falafel stands in Manhattan were all curiously vacant on 9/11)----so let's send him packing! Not by smashing his store windows and labeling his door with "Arab-NO!" as did the brown shirts on kristallnacht, Not by setting gas stations ablaze, Not by violence in the streets, But by the very capitalistic means they oppose with their terror, and hipocritically FUNDS their methods of bloodshed against us "infidels" BY BOYCOTTING ALL TOWELHEAD ESTABLISHMENTS UNTIL WE STARVE THEM OUT~! I'm gonna miss that yummy hummus for a while, but its a worthwhile sacrifice to make...saving american G.I. lives, Iraqi civilian lives, and puts the kibosh on Cheney's underhanded profit motives (if they're really real) all while preserving world opinion. Any Thoughts?

Um, that you're a bigoted moron? That's really all that comes to mind right now. The majority of Arab-Americans are hard-working good people and what you are suggesting is horrible and stupid.

I would support the cessation of allowing those belonging to the group Muslim Brotherhood into the country. This is a fundamentalist group who has committed terror in their home countries and booted out to be welcomed with open arms by the US (we want to use them to topple regimes we don't like, you see).

So once again we are bringing it on ourselves and the Arabs/Muslims who are not a part of this should not get lumped in by your racism.

[commonsense]

Mia, I will not stoop to the name-calling you just employed (moron) but its important that others here on this site capable of making the distinction understand what the term racism actually means, but more importantly, what bringing the accusation actually represents:

Racism is the belief that one particular race is intellectually and morally superior solely because of its common inherited physical characteristics.

If you knew anything of my or my family's racial make up and personal history you could not make this charge.

My referring to Mohammedans as "towelheads and rag heads" is a deliberate distinction to rally truly objective thinkers around the determination that we are in a Culture Warwith these people as the aggressor, at least the violent aggressors, even if you want to consider the encroachment of American movies, etc from their view as aggression of an indirect violent type.

I stress "objective thinkers" because the charge of racism is a perverted term, misused and intentionally cultivated in the counter-culture of our academic institutions which is based on a perverse destructive ideology bent on destroying the philosophy and resultant culture that characterizes the United States, as well as what gave them the very freedom to oppose and endeavor to destroy it.

Those who indiscriminately use the accusation of racism wittingly or not, are in fact aiding our own domestic fanatics who have more in common with the terrorists as far as wishing the fall of the U.S. than do the rest of our countrymen who, whether they can articulate it or not, understand the distinction and the threat to our culture that the fanatical Mohammedans' violence presents.

It is those Americans, who understand this a Culture War not a race war, who also understand the crucial nature of preserving our uniquely American Culture, which does, to its great credit, include historically greatest levels of tolerance, BUT IT CANNOT CONTINUE WHEN THE VERY CULTURE THAT BREEDS THAT TOLERENCE IS ITSELF THREATENED BY IT

The American people are not being represented by their government, So something by the people itself must be done, and it isn't vote for Bush or Kerry.

The American people do share a common culture of freedom regardless of other ultimately superficial "differences" which in fact comprise the "spice of life" we all appreciate in what the other brings to the American experience.

THAT FREEDOM IS THREATENED BY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION BY FANATICALS FROM WITHIN!

It is equally threatened by fanaticals in government and academia as well, but the violence must be stopped first in order to address the second.

No liberal objected to ridiculous taxpayer-funded ads that proclaim
"buy drugs and fund a terrorist" (to images of the Twin Towers struck by a winged ball of flame)
---- many drug sellers are "nice people" with families, too, simply engaging in free enterprise and providing a service much in demand, the use of which does not necessarily harm the purchaser nor his family---

"Buy a pack of gum and fund terror" is far more accurate, and continuing to do so is far more effective in sustaining widespread forces within our own borders that seek to destroy our very culture that permits your misplaced "tolerance"

Answer me this, Mia:

When we ultimately suffer ten more (to use your word "horrible") events with carnage and desruction of the magnitude of 9/11...

OR, when the first suitcase-sized "dirty bomb" spreads fallout and contamination across wide swaths of our densely populated areas,
don't you think then, the armed, violent backlash by the remaining healthy Americans against "rag heads" both good and bad will be swift, merciless and violent?---not to mention a little late?

When this whole scenario is inevitable because nothing Bush or Kerry can do, regadless of money spent or blood shed in any arena can prevent it, but my solution can.

PEACEABLY BOYCOTT ALL MOHAMMEDANS NOW!!!!!

I am not a racist, I am a humanitarian who understands history and human nature and wants to preclude human suffering....And preserve the American Ideals of individual freedom, the last hope for the real ascendancy of mankind.

[VXerick]

Quote by: commonsense, My referring to Mohammedans as "towelheads and rag heads" is a deliberate distinction

to rally truly objective thinkers around the determination that we are in a Culture Warwith these people as the aggressor, at least the violent aggressors, even if you want to consider the encroachment of American movies, etc from their view as aggression of an indirect violent type. [/quote]
I stress "objective thinkers" because the charge of racism is a perverted term, misused and intentionally cultivated in the counter-culture of our academic institutions which is based on a perverse destructive ideology bent on destroying the philosophy and resultant culture that characterizes the United States, as well as what gave them the very freedom to oppose and endeavor to destroy it.

Those who indiscriminately use the accusation of racism wittingly or not, are in fact aiding our own domestic fanatics who have more in common with the terrorists as far as wishing the fall of the U.S. than do the rest of our countrymen who, whether they can articulate it or not, understand the distinction and the threat to our culture that the fanatical Mohammedans' violence presents.

It is those Americans, who understand this a Culture War not a race war, who also understand the crucial nature of preserving our uniquely American Culture, which does, to its great credit, include historically greatest levels of tolerance, [/b]BUT IT CANNOT CONTINUE WHEN THE VERY CULTURE THAT BREEDS THAT TOLERENCE IS ITSELF THREATENED BY IT[b]

The American people are not being represented by their government, So something by the people itself must be done, and it isn't vote for Bush or Kerry.

The American people do share a common culture of freedom regardless of other ultimately superficial "differences" which in fact comprise the "spice of life" we all appreciate in what the other brings to the American experience.

THAT FREEDOM IS THREATENED BY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION BY FANATICALS FROM WITHIN!

It is equally threatened by fanaticals in government and academia as well, but the violence must be stopped first in order to address the second.

No liberal objected to ridiculous taxpayer-funded ads that proclaim
"buy drugs and fund a terrorist" (to images of the Twin Towers struck by a winged ball of flame)
---- many drug sellers are "nice people" with families, too, simply engaging in free enterprise and providing a service much in demand, the use of which does not necessarily harm the purchaser nor his family---

"Buy a pack of gum and fund terror" is far more accurate, and continuing to do so is far more effective in sustaining widespread forces within our own borders that seek to destroy our very culture that permits your misplaced "tolerance"

Answer me this, Mia:

When we ultimately suffer ten more (to use your word "horrible") events with carnage and desruction of the magnitude of 9/11...

OR, when the first suitcase-sized "dirty bomb" spreads fallout and contamination across wide swaths of our densely populated areas,
don't you think then, the armed, violent backlash by the remaining healthy Americans against "rag heads" both good and bad will be swift, merciless and violent?---not to mention a little late?

When this whole scenario is inevitable because nothing Bush or Kerry can do, regadless of money spent or blood shed in any arena can prevent it, but my solution can.

PEACEABLY BOYCOTT ALL MOHAMMEDANS NOW!!!!!

I am not a racist, I am a humanitarian who understands history and human nature and wants to preclude human suffering....And preserve the American Ideals of individual freedom, the last hope for the real ascendancy of mankind.[/quote]

[VXerick]

Originally posted by commonsense,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (commonsense,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>My referring to Mohammedans as "towelheads and rag heads" is a deliberate distinction [/b]

As opposed to what? People who wear loincloths?

Originally posted by commonsense,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (commonsense,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>we are in a Culture Warwith these people as the aggressor, at least the violent aggressors, even if you want to consider the encroachment of American movies, etc from their view as aggression of an indirect violent type. [/b]

They use American values because they won't admit the only reason they hate us is we aren't followers of Islam.

Originally posted by commonsense, I stress "objective thinkers" because the charge of racism is a perverted term, misused and intentionally cultivated in the counter-culture of our academic institutions which is based on a perverse destructive ideology bent on destroying the philosophy and resultant culture that characterizes the United States, as well as what gave them the very freedom to oppose and endeavor to destroy it. Those who indiscriminately use the accusation of racism wittingly or not, are in fact aiding our own domestic fanatics who have more in common with the terrorists as far as wishing the fall of the U.S. than do the rest of our countrymen who, whether they can articulate it or not, understand the distinction and the threat to our culture that the fanatical Mohammedans' violence presents.

Are you an attorney by any chance? Your post reads like the small print on a contract. You know, the part the layman is not supposed to understand.

Originally posted by commonsense, It is those Americans, who understand this a Culture War not a race war, who also understand the crucial nature of preserving our uniquely American Culture, which does, to its great credit, include historically greatest levels of tolerance, BUT IT CANNOT CONTINUE WHEN THE VERY CULTURE THAT BREEDS THAT TOLERENCE IS ITSELF THREATENED BY IT

It's a religious war with the added power play that large sums of money help proliferate. It is only a race war, if one assumes all Muslims are Arabs. Muslims are of many nationalities and races. Same as the rest of us.

Originally posted by commonsense, The American people are not being represented by their government, So something by the people itself must be done, and it isn't vote for Bush or Kerry.

The American people ARE their government. We elect representatives and should logically expect them to conduct themselves according to that covenant. But politics has trumped decent human behavior. As long as the people accept the governance foisted upon them by elitists, there will be continuing discord.

Originally posted by commonsense, The American people do share a common culture of freedom regardless of other ultimately superficial "differences" which in fact comprise the "spice of life" we all appreciate in what the other brings to the American experience.

American people used to share a common culture of freedom. It's the US Constitution which provided it. The Constitution has been under assault since the mid 1800s. It is no longer the bearer of freedom that it was meant to be when it was written. And in the years after WWII, most immigrants, who previously added that spice of life, are no longer interested in assimilating. All they want are to get what they can, whatever they have to do to get it. That might mean they work harder but that doesn't mean they have any fidelity to our culture and they translate freedom as meaning they have the right to get what they want anyway they can. Especially if they can get laws changed to grant additional rights to certain segments of the population.

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THAT FREEDOM IS THREATENED BY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION BY FANATICALS FROM WITHIN!

It is equally threatened by fanaticals in government and academia as well, but the violence must be stopped first in order to address the second.

No liberal objected to ridiculous taxpayer-funded ads that proclaim
"buy drugs and fund a terrorist" (to images of the Twin Towers struck by a winged ball of flame)
---- many drug sellers are "nice people" with families, too, simply engaging in free enterprise and providing a service much in demand, the use of which does not necessarily harm the purchaser nor his family---[/quote] Really "nice" people aren't substance abusers. Nor do they seek to make others substance abusers. If the service in demand is detrimental to society's health and well being, then their is a flaw in the people who demand such services.

And that ad was a truism. Buying narcotics that are grown and processed in Afghanistan, helps support terrorism. Many of us boycotted French products because of their insipid attitude towards the US. I don't drink French wine, but I would have given it up to thwart the French. I do boycott to protest actions by governments, my own and others.


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I am not a racist, I am a humanitarian who understands history and human nature and wants to preclude human suffering....And preserve the American Ideals of individual freedom, the last hope for the real ascendancy of mankind.[/quote] Sounds alturistic. Few people are that good. And you're 144 years too late to preserve individual freedoms. Besides, mankind has its limits and will not survive indefinitely, no matter what people do or don't do.

[floridian]

It seems to me that some people are unable to distinguish between hate filled fundamentalist Muslims and the every day Muslim on the street. The average Muslim may not like everything about America, but is not an enemy. Really folks, its much easier to fight the hate filled fanatics if we can keep everyone else on our side.

[dotcoma]

I personally don't think "arabs" were behind 9/11.

[PatrickHenry]

Too complicated for the "towelheads" to pull off. (sarcasm directed at commonsense)

[Mia]

Commonsense, it might help you to pick up a book every now and then or listen to or watch something that tells you something about the people of which you speak BESIDES the biased CRAP you've obviously only been exposed to.

The fanatics KILL OTHER MUSLIMS. It has nothing to do with being American or Christian or anything else.

Look how many bombings occur in Muslim countries. Far more than in the US.

The fanatics will kill someone for using a different brand of hair gel than they do. If you use dippity-do you are an infidel, even if you are a Moslem.

It has nothing to do with Islam and the vast majority of Arabs, in and out of the United States, have nothing to do with it either.

I am all for getting the fanatics out. No one will give me an answer as to why we let them IN. Their home countries know they are terrorists - that's why they got booted out.

Instead of directing yoru fear and hatred to Arab-Americans who hate these fanatics as much as you do, ask your government why we insist on continuing to emply terrorists to do our dirty work for them, putting all of us at risk in the process?

[commonsense]

Quote: Mia

I am all for getting the fanatics out. No one will give me an answer as to why we let them IN. Their home countries know they are terrorists - that's why they got booted out.

Its impossible to tell, that's why there must be an indefinite moratorium on immigration from the entire Middle East

There is no hate or fear in my post or in my heart.
I advocate the moratorium and the boycott out of sheer logic and the continued preservation of the very system that could one day again be the bastion of opportunity it has been to the enlightened middle easterners who came here. It is a an unfortunate but necessary response TO the greatest act of hate, the indiscriminate violence of terrorism.

[Suburbanite]

commonsense we have a strong rule against insulting people in general, calling someone a rag-head is not permissible. End of story.

[lostkiwi]

Wow, never have I seen such diametrical opposition between a post and it's authors name!

911 was not funded from within this country. The money to fund this operation came from the Middle East.

911 was not conceived by people in this country. The idea came from terrorists raised in the Middle East and wrapped in a cloak of Muslem fundamentalism.

911 was not carried out by people raised here. But rather people living here for a short amount of time in order to carry out their mission.

Your statements, commonsense, are racist. You are grouping all Arabs together in order to lay blame for 911 on all of them, rather than the individuals who carried out this heinous act. You are asking for all Arabs, many of whom love America and are productive citizens here, to pay the price for the crimes of a malicious few.

That is racism.

Buy the way, when do you plan on getting rid of your car? If you are truly willing to start a boycott I think the Oil and all of its byproducts is a natural place to start.

[commonsense]

VXerick,
You're right on the money in much of your post, but you fell short of saying "should be" or "used to be" to the part about the U.S. govt BEING the people, as you did elsewhere.

Also, I never mentioned drug abuse in my post. You "accused" me of being a lawyer (joke intended)--- just as you refer to our founding principles being long forgotten and "usurped" by elitists, you sound pretty elitist yourself when you broadly paint drug users and sellers as a detriment to society.
Governmental actions to discourage this traditional, practically natural human pursuit (anthropologically speaking) create far greater sociological ills, --including ones not immediately recognizable-- than does sticking to our philosophical founding principles of the government's (sociological)role being nothing more than the preservation of individual rights.
While lawyers tend to be rabidly self-serving and often in a moral sense deserve much of the derision they receive, I take your suspicion that I may be one as a compliment, given the level of erudition the profession is presumed to demand.
It may interest you that I regularly partake in any number of illicit drugs, am not addicted, and apparently sufficiently impressed you to hopefully consider that I and many like me are no detriment to society.

[commonsense]

Well Kiwi, "lost" certainly DOES well describe your condition, intellectually, at least.

As per my post, you do not understand the definition of racism, only the blanket term American socialists and self-serving politicians exploit to denounce their reasoned opposition.

I am of middle-eastern decent.

[Mia]

Originally posted by commonsense, Well Kiwi, "lost" certainly DOES well describe your condition, intellectually, at least. As per my post, you do not understand the definition of racism, only the blanket term American socialists and self-serving politicians exploit to denounce their reasoned opposition. I am of middle-eastern decent.

Where are you from?

[Mia]

Yes, you can tell the difference. Their home countries can, so why can't we?

You are failing to address the point that we let them in here for a reason. We want to use them against ME regimes we don't like.

In the 70's and 80's the MB in Syria committed terrorist acts against the government with US weapons.