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Poledancer · Jul 26, 2006, 03:40 pm

How do you decide what is an acceptable level of risk?

If you were about to have an operation and there was a 1 in 100000 chance of death, would you have it? What about 1 in 10000, 1 in 1000, 1 in 100 etc.

Do these numbers actually mean anything to us?

Poledancer · Jul 26, 2006, 03:50 pm

My refererence is: PLOS medicine - The Roulette wheel , a guide to decision making.

Long article

underbear1 · Jul 26, 2006, 05:04 pm

Depends on if the surgery is the last chance for you to continue living, or if it's putting on fake breasts or a chisled chin.

Plasma Snake[D] · Jul 27, 2006, 12:12 am

Its hard to apply these numbers to an actual situation. Dont boggle up the main arguement about wether or not some solutions are better than the problem.

CoffeeSaint · Jul 27, 2006, 02:20 am

Best board game EVER!

Oh, wait, sorry. Wrong topic. :)

It's not about a simple numeric value; it's about the risks on either side. I'll take the smaller risk, whatever it is: if the surgery might kill me, but what it's fixing has a higher chance of killing me, I'll take the surgery. If the surgery might kill me but the condition won't, I won't have the surgery. The only gray area here is quality of life.

bishop · Jul 27, 2006, 02:56 am

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Quote by: coffeesaint

Best board game EVER!

heh.. i was thinking the same thing initially...

it really isn't risk, it's the appetite for risk - something that can't be quantified. the grey areas differ for everyone..

Arawn-ap-Hywel · Jul 29, 2006, 02:50 pm

If one worries over risk then one becomes a total recluse. Check the surgeons breath and hands ask for the percentage survival rate for similar operations and then the surgeons. Then ask yourself do you really still need to suffer.

5010 · Aug 3, 2006, 03:56 pm

I wouldn't partake in a nonessential operation even if there was 0% risk of death, but I'd gladly partake in a nonessential ski trip even after hearing that 50 people have died in avalanches and accidents the same year.

Jul 26, 2006, 03:40 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Poledancer Molten Ash Posts: 82	Risk How do you decide what is an acceptable level of risk? If you were about to have an operation and there was a 1 in 100000 chance of death, would you have it? What about 1 in 10000, 1 in 1000, 1 in 100 etc. Do these numbers actually mean anything to us?

Jul 27, 2006, 12:12 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Plasma Snake[D] Cause for Concern Location: Planet Earth Posts: 664	Its hard to apply these numbers to an actual situation. Dont boggle up the main arguement about wether or not some solutions are better than the problem. Isa14:21Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers. Deu24:16The fathers shall not be put to death for the children,neither shall the kids be put to death for the fathers.

Jul 27, 2006, 02:20 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
CoffeeSaint Moral Turnip Location: Oregon, US Posts: 2,283	Best board game EVER! Oh, wait, sorry. Wrong topic. :) It's not about a simple numeric value; it's about the risks on either side. I'll take the smaller risk, whatever it is: if the surgery might kill me, but what it's fixing has a higher chance of killing me, I'll take the surgery. If the surgery might kill me but the condition won't, I won't have the surgery. The only gray area here is quality of life. "Would you like some pie, Dr. Stark?" "Science is my pie. Curiosity, my sweet tooth. Knowledge is my candy."

Aug 3, 2006, 03:56 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
5010 mostly harmless Location: USA Posts: 1,284	I wouldn't partake in a nonessential operation even if there was 0% risk of death, but I'd gladly partake in a nonessential ski trip even after hearing that 50 people have died in avalanches and accidents the same year. - solo (my site)

Jul 26, 2006, 03:50 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Poledancer Molten Ash Posts: 82	My refererence is: PLOS medicine - The Roulette wheel , a guide to decision making. Long article

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underbear1 BANNED Posts: 2,630	Depends on if the surgery is the last chance for you to continue living, or if it's putting on fake breasts or a chisled chin.

Jul 29, 2006, 02:50 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Arawn-ap-Hywel Hot Lava Posts: 1,124	If one worries over risk then one becomes a total recluse. Check the surgeons breath and hands ask for the percentage survival rate for similar operations and then the surgeons. Then ask yourself do you really still need to suffer.