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Old Jul 23, 2006, 08:09 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Why would you do that? You have a chance of passing the disease on to the kid.

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I think the combined/triple treatment of anti-retrovirals is pretty successful in preventing mother-to-child transmission, but like you say, there is always a chance.


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Old Jul 23, 2006, 08:19 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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Why would you do that? You have a chance of passing the disease on to the kid.

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That's an excellent point. A fetus can pick up all KINDS of things on the trip through the birth canal. I'm guessing CliveStaples may have overlooked that detail. I know I did.


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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:08 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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I've had two relationships with HIV- men in the twenty years I've been POZ. They had all information to make informed decisions. Each lasted more than a year, and we practised safer sex, both are still HIV-. My current lover is POZ too, and that does simplify dating process.
Does it? I have not looked into the subject in a long time but it seems I remember that it is still harmful poz to poz.

My condolences that you caught that awful disease.


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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:53 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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Why can't a woman sow her oats like men do w/o being called a slut?
I don't share that double-standard. Sluts are sluts, whether male or female. Straw men can be fun, but they should be used sparingly.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 12:01 am   #25 (permalink) (top)
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Well, I'm glad you see it both ways. I also think a slut is a slut, male or female.


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 01:04 am   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Uhh.

No...

And I don't play chicken in the pickup with my construction buddies either...

Why should I gamble with my life??
No I wouldnt unless:

It was my husband and he was attacked with an HIV infected needle.

I couldnt help myself.

If it was a new realtionship I would scrap it.


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 01:18 am   #27 (permalink) (top)
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Totally depends on the chick. It would also depend on my age. Probably wouldn't do it now, but if I'm old and don't have that much longer to live anyway, why not?


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 01:54 am   #28 (permalink) (top)
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I knew there would be some circumstantial yes answers, I was curious to see what they would be.

HIV infected needle attacked husband.

Are there people attacking others with HIV infected needles?

Ewww!


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 02:00 am   #29 (permalink) (top)
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there's a thread somewhere here about that (HIV needle attackers)...


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 02:06 am   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Are you being serious? I read the one about the woman going around passing it through sex, but not this.


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 02:07 am   #31 (permalink) (top)
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Poz to poz does carry some risk, one strain might be more resistant to more of the drugs, so fluid exchange still isn't a good idea. Each Poz person makes that choice for themselves.
One of the HIV negative men I was with for a year, had already lost a lover to AIDS, and we had no problem practicing safer sex.One factor many of you seem not to bring to this matter is what if you fell in love with someone Poz?, as remote as that might be for many of you, I think you'd consider that probability.
I've been in the AIDS community for twenty years and never heard of these mythical needle attacks, so I'd need proof to believe it.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 08:02 am   #32 (permalink) (top)
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no.

And to those who said yes, what if the condom breaks? Its like playing russian roulette


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 08:29 am   #33 (permalink) (top)
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what if you fell in love with someone Poz?,
I included that as part of my question and two people indicated that was a possibility.

I think the gay community is more accepting of that and willing to take the risk, in general.


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 09:36 am   #34 (permalink) (top)
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Are you being serious? I read the one about the woman going around passing it through sex, but not this.
*derp*

yeah, that was the story... no needle attacker.

it must be different in the gay world where i guess HIV positive people could perhaps be more open (maybe even more numerous?)... all i know is if i met a girl who was positive, i wouldn't stay in that relationship.. that's a tragedy waiting to happen one way or another.


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 09:39 am   #35 (permalink) (top)
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If it were a random girl, no, I wouldn't have sex with her.

If it were my wife, of course I would. I'd use protection. When she wants another kid, we'd take the artificial insemination route.

And instead of worrying about the birth canal, we'd go for a C-section.

They actually have C-sections now that are specifically so that STDs aren't transmitted to the baby.

It's risky, though, but less risky than other alternatives.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 09:42 am   #36 (permalink) (top)
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.One factor many of you seem not to bring to this matter is what if you fell in love with someone Poz?, as remote as that might be for many of you, I think you'd consider that probability.
Why would one need to have sex with someone one loves? Sex is one of the best benefits of a relationship, but it is hardly the necessary foundation. If people are willing to overlook the risks in order to have sex, fine; I'm not.


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 09:48 am   #37 (permalink) (top)
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it isn't the only aspect of a relationship, but it certainly is a vital part to one..


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Old Jul 24, 2006, 11:01 am   #38 (permalink) (top)
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Assuming I would have to consider the possibility, no, I wouldn't.

Even protected sex leaves you open for transmission, and that's not a risk I'd be willing to take.

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Old Jul 24, 2006, 12:21 pm   #39 (permalink) (top)
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Unless I and my partner have both had a negative test outside our 'window periods', I guess any potential partner could be HIV positive.

So that would be a yes.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 12:25 pm   #40 (permalink) (top)
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If it were a random girl, no, I wouldn't have sex with her.

If it were my wife, of course I would. I'd use protection. When she wants another kid, we'd take the artificial insemination route.

And instead of worrying about the birth canal, we'd go for a C-section.

They actually have C-sections now that are specifically so that STDs aren't transmitted to the baby.

It's risky, though, but less risky than other alternatives.
Yeah, but this isn't a birth-canal issue. Obviously mom and baby are going to share lots of fluids!


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