Church school bans Lennon classic

[dreamer]

A church school in Devon has withdrawn John Lennon's Imagine from an end-of-term show after teachers ruled that its lyrics were anti-religious. Pupils at St Leonards Primary in Exeter, Devon, had spent weeks rehearsing the song. But it was taken out of the running order after the head teacher and governors decided it was anti-Christian and unsuitable for the school. The lyrics include: "Imagine there's no heaven... and no religion too."

link.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/5193816.stm
Are the church that worred bout a song, to ban it in one off there schools, is this right one of best songs ever, the song, what you think good lyrics.? or is it anti-religious?.link to the song there talking about.link.
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[PatrickHenry]

Heh. Pretty song. Heretical theology.

Why would a church school let kids play that one?

[bishop]

that song probably probably belongs in the church school as much as bible study belongs in public school...

there should be a place where people can debate the validity of religion, and most especially imo, the validity of dogmatic specifics (ex. holy trinity, walking on water, eve created out of adam's rib, etc..)..

that song obviously pushes such questions, but since the participants in theists vs. atheists are usually completely disagreeable, that debate rarely ever occurs - and probably can't occur within a pre-collegiate school.

[brien]

[quote=dreamer]link.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/5193816.stm
Are the church that worred bout a song, to ban it in one off there schools, is this right one of best songs ever, the song, what you think good lyrics.? or is it anti-religious?.link to the song there talking about.link.
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...&search=Search[/Q


Ahhhhhhhh, Old John is probably laughing all the way through eternity right now. Everything old is new again. I don''t know if you are old enough to remember his famous quote that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus, but records were smashed , books were burned, and the Beatles popularity grew even more widely.

So what if some religious fanatics refuse to sing Imagine? Who cares? Maybe they should just go to the next cut on the album and sing "Gimme Some Truth"..

[CoffeeSaint]

Quote by: dreamer link.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/5193816.stm Are the church that worred bout a song, to ban it in one off there schools, is this right one of best songs ever, the song, what you think good lyrics.? or is it anti-religious?

Of course they're that worried about a song. Christianity is a religion based solely on words: the words of the Bible, the words of the Church, the words of Christ or of God. God is the Word, the Logos, not so? Words have great power in Christianity, just as images have great power in Islam, and (I think) thoughts have great power in Buddhism and actions have power in Judaism. So, Christians fear words, especially words that may reach the young people in song form, because music speaks so clearly to children, often more clearly than written texts do. I think popular culture terrifies dogmatic Christians, since they recognize its power over the youth they seek to control, and that is why so many of their most strident objections to the modern world concern popular culture.

[dsanthony]

Quote by: dreamer A church school in Devon has withdrawn John Lennon's Imagine from an end-of-term show after teachers ruled that its lyrics were anti-religious. Pupils at St Leonards Primary in Exeter, Devon, had spent weeks rehearsing the song. But it was taken out of the running order after the head teacher and governors decided it was anti-Christian and unsuitable for the school. The lyrics include: "Imagine there's no heaven... and no religion too." link.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/5193816.stm Are the church that worred bout a song, to ban it in one off there schools, is this right one of best songs ever, the song, what you think good lyrics.? or is it anti-religious?.link to the song there talking about.link. http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...&search=Search

Of course Imagine is anti-religious. as was Lennon. They should instead quote from WOrking Class Hero... "They give you your drugs, your sex and TV, and you think you're all clever and classless and free, but you're all fucking peasants as far as I can see."

Lennon was a confused thinker at best. At worst, he was a demagogue. One should not seek wisdom from pop music stars.

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: dsanthony Lennon was a confused thinker at best. At worst, he was a demagogue. One should not seek wisdom from pop music stars.

Well, to be precise, he was a genius songwriter at best. Demagogue? I don't think so. More like a flawed role model...

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: bishop that song probably probably belongs in the church school as much as bible study belongs in public school...

Aah, the other side of the coin. Well put, Bishop.

[dreamer]

Quote by: dsanthony Of course Imagine is anti-religious. as was Lennon. They should instead quote from WOrking Class Hero... "They give you your drugs, your sex and TV, and you think you're all clever and classless and free, but you're all fucking peasants as far as I can see." Lennon was a confused thinker at best. At worst, he was a demagogue. One should not seek wisdom from pop music stars.

A message from john himself he left for everybody.link.http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=john+lennon . what can i say he must of been ahead off is time, maybe the church needs to open its doors to imagination, what are the church scared of freedom of thought?.
Dreamer

[dreamer]

Heh. Pretty song. Heretical theology.

Gets to the senses i think

Why would a church school let kids play that one?.

Does it really mater.

that song probably probably belongs in the church school as much as bible study belongs in public school....

That's about right for me too.

there should be a place where people can debate the validity of religion, and most especially imo, the validity of dogmatic specifics (ex. holy trinity, walking on water, eve created out of adam's rib, etc..)..

THATS FUNNY AS HELL.

that song obviously pushes such questions, but since the participants in theists vs. atheists are usually completely disagreeable, that debate rarely ever occurs - and probably can't occur within a pre-collegiate school.

I believe that the lyrics a very debatable

Ahhhhhhhh, Old John is probably laughing all the way through eternity right now. Everything old is new again. I don''t know if you are old enough to remember his famous quote that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus, but records were smashed , books were burned, and the Beatles popularity grew even more widely.

No not old another to remember but have seen film and read some articles on it .

So what if some religious fanatics refuse to sing Imagine? Who cares? Maybe they should just go to the next cut on the album and sing "Gimme Some Truth"..

That's funny as well

Of course they're that worried about a song. Christianity is a religion based solely on words: the words of the Bible, the words of the Church, the words of Christ or of God. God is the Word, the Logos, not so? Words have great power in Christianity, just as images have great power in Islam, and (I think) thoughts have great power in Buddhism and actions have power in Judaism. So, Christians fear words, especially words that may reach the young people in song form, because music speaks so clearly to children, often more clearly than written texts do. I think popular culture terrifies dogmatic Christians, since they recognize its power over the youth they seek to control, and that is why so many of their most strident objections to the modern world concern popular culture.

How true all offer the world, words confuses most people. Jacobs ladder always comes to mind, thoughts, and then actions to what end, images of what they wont you to see the bible and the bible only .