Bush supports Gay Marriage

Your getting very strange...

Atleast your Mind can fathom that somewhere Children whose parents may not have wanted them to see this show, may get to sneek and see it, & i think your aware that the show is in primetime. Hollywood hated "The Passion", because Gibson was trying to bring God to a Heathen near You, They can't let him do that though...Hollywood is trying to sell SIN.

I didn't see the Passion because I chose not and most reviews were pretty good on it. I'm not christian therefore I will not watch it as it is geared towards christians. Queer Eye for the Straight Guy is on Bravo TV, and you are not forced to turn to Bravo. Bravo is known for having controversial shows.

Can You READ? I said If, understand what If...so answer the question, If all rights were included could Gays exist without having to have the word Marriage. Hell No should be Your answer, because to them this is a fight for Validation & acceptance...& to piss off or on Christians, Conservatives, and Hedrosexuals.

What's a hedrosexual? You mean heterosexual.

Thats Your choice, but really Your a Tool of God, Your very open to the Fact that Satan has You, a Blind Man can see that...You are a reminder for Christians of why they're Christians & after seeing what You say, I'd bet many people are inspired towards God by just coming in contact with a wretched Soul like You.

Again you can't prove satan or god. You are a blind man for blindly believeing in religious fundamentalism. Respect my beliefs and I will respect yours. I'm not influenced by anybody but my own destiny. I'm not christian, I don't believe in god, or satan. Wretched soul? Who the fuck do you think you are?

Nature doesn't support Homosexuality! God doesn't support Homosexuality! NO LAWS in the History of this Country support Homosexuality! Homosexuality if it were to spread could threaten Procreation! Homosexuals are less Moral because they don't believe their actions are punishable by a God!

Prove that nature doesn't support homosexuality. If it didn't, homosexuality wouldn't exist. Prove god. And the laws in this country having nazi-like anti-gay laws have been for the most part thrown out. Homosexuality threatens procreation? Funny. How are homosexuals less moral? Get your god and your beliefs out of my face.

Best selling Book of All Time Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth! Major Majority of the Country You live In believe. All we know is Birth & Death, but if NO other greater being exists, one that is without a Mortal Coil, one that doesn't know Start & End...we couldn't exist because Our minds can't fathom Forever or no beggining. God the Alpha & Omega CAN, does, and created Us. You can't understand the concept of Satan, but I'm sure You understand Laws & You've probably broken One or Two...Satan is the overbearing Voice in Your Head that leans You towards the things You know aren't right!

I can't believe you... you can't prove this greater being exists. Satan this, satan that. Can you prove satan? You are nothing but another fanatic. Stop trying to mess with me and my mind. I know what I believe in... and it is not religion. Shut up and stop telling me I believe in something when I don't.

Atleast I won't be wrong when I'm Dead...Still Praying for YOU. Bless Giancarlo! I Pray that God will have mercy on Your misguided Soul & Move in Your Heart to Save You from the Evils of this World.

Well Adolf, I don't think you should be praying for other people who don't believe in the same thing you. You are the misguided one, and you are a very deranged individual.

A psychologist is the best option at this time... based on my best recommendation.

Oh and prove god created us...

[Young]

Obviously your just reaching for straws now. You need to research religion, I could list various reasons, but this is alll in your mind...your mind works to discredit religion when you'd be much better served to see if all the facts supporting God are also documented in History and backed up by science, which they are. Your in the Valley right now, so sure I understand that maybe because of that You see the world as Flat, Learn more, climb the Mountain...and You'll see how it could be Round. I think God is already moving in Your Heart, Your just scared, because if You were to believe and truely believe, You'd wanna change, and Satan supports a lot of things that look & feel good...these things are hard to turn away from. You know smoking will lower Your health but awe what satisfaction, Candy will make Your teeth rot, but man is it ever sweet. The Old & New Testaments are notably different in the way they present God, but you have to understand that Satan had Us because of Sin, Until Jesus came. Abraham is acknowledged by Muslims, Jews, & Christians & the story Goes that God came upon him & wanted to know how beloved he was to Abraham. God asked him to sacrifice his Son, to show that he Loved God, Abraham prepared to do it & seeing that he Loved God this Much, God told him to Sacrifice a Ram that had caught its Horns in Bushes. The Devil had Us because we willfully Sinned daily, and God Loved Us so much that He sent his Son, Jesus to Die for Our Sins. This act reunited Us to God, pulled Us from the Devils hands. You asked,

[/quote] Who the fuck do you think you are?

I'm someone willing to spend the time, that i could Use to do many other things, to try to Help You. When I said wretched Soul, I said that because Your Soul is not Yours, Your views are the Devils words coming through You, He's using You to promote the worst parts of Our situation, and I hope You can reclaim Your life. Oh, and Homosexuality can Exist without being supported by Nature, because it is a Perversion of the Mind.

Originally posted by Young, Obviously your just reaching for straws now. You need to research religion, I could list various reasons, but this is alll in your mind...your mind works to discredit religion when you'd be much better served to see if all the facts supporting God

There are no facts supporting god, besides which is written in one book.

are also documented in History and backed up by science,

No they aren't.

Your in the Valley right now, so sure I understand that maybe because of that You see the world as Flat, Learn more, climb the Mountain...

Religionists used to say the earth was flat.

I think God is already moving in Your Heart, Your just scared, because if You were to believe and truely believe, You'd wanna change, and Satan supports a lot of things that look & feel good...

Nice run-on sentence. That can't happen because I don't believe in god or satan, nor can you prove either. Sorry. You just can't prove it. There is no evidence for god what so ever.

The Old & New Testaments are notably different in the way they present God, but you have to understand that Satan had Us because of Sin, Until Jesus came. Abraham is acknowledged by Muslims, Jews, & Christians & the story Goes that God came upon him & wanted to know how beloved he was to Abraham.

So?

The Devil had Us because we willfully Sinned daily, and God Loved Us so much that He sent his Son, Jesus to Die for Our Sins. This act reunited Us to God, pulled Us from the Devils hands. You asked,

You are committing some grammar errors, you don't capitalize every word in your sentences. Secondly you can't prove any of this.

I'm someone willing to spend the time, that i could Use to do many other things, to try to Help You.

Actually you need some very serious help. You have a series of mental and psychological deficiencies.

When I said wretched Soul, I said that because Your Soul is not Yours, Your views are the Devils words coming through You, He's using You to promote the worst parts of Our situation, and I hope You can reclaim Your life. Oh, and Homosexuality can Exist without being supported by Nature, because it is a Perversion of the Mind.

You don't know what you are talkign about. Again, I don't believe in any devil, god or satan. You don't know what you are talking about. Reclaim my life? By believeing in some christian neo-nazism? I'm sorry but I will not raise my hand in salute to the religious fascists like you. Homosexuality isn't a perversion nor is it a choice.

You just been debunked.

[Autophage]

Originally posted by Young, I wonder why HIV hit the Homosexual community the hardest first, could it be that Our seed is important to God & Homosexuality threatened it? Why don't we have some Pro Gay Church create a new Definition? Could they call it Garriage & define it as being between people of the Same sex? Then we could test the Divorce rates of Marriage & Garriage. This Country was founded on seperation of Church & State, so just like a Church couldn't impose Prayer in public School...how could the Gov't impose Gay Marriage on the Church's believers?

HIV hit the homosexual community hardest first because condoms had never before been a necessity. And as for the separation of church and state - you're absolutely right, it is important - thus the government shouldn't administer marriage at all, IMO, it should just issue joint tax returns and soforth.

[Autophage]

Originally posted by Giancarlo, Reclaim my life? By believeing in some christian neo-nazism? I'm sorry but I will not raise my hand in salute to the religious fascists like you. Homosexuality isn't a perversion nor is it a choice. You just been debunked.

You were doing just great until your mention of 'christian neo-nazism'. Even if it were true, you're using the phrase for its negative connotations - an inflammatory manner of speech, and not one that encourages intelligent and levelheaded debate.

Originally posted by Autophage, You were doing just great until your mention of 'christian neo-nazism'. Even if it were true, you're using the phrase for its negative connotations - an inflammatory manner of speech, and not one that encourages intelligent and levelheaded debate.

Wake up.. he keeps saying I'm going to hell and said he can prove his god, when he can do neither.

[Sean]

Giancarlo's account has been suspended after about 20 private messages back and forth. I don't know what's wrong with that guy, but Young, you've also been warned. Don't tell someone they're going to hell because they're gay please lol..sigh.

[Chris the Chees]

Quote by: young Mia, I said "Our children", as in Southern Christian children, I don't have children, nor am I married. We all know children watch TV without their parents always being present. I'm not saying we can't have that show, I was comparing that being offensive to me with Bubba the love sponge being offensive to some.

Are you incapable of controlling your own children? I personally don't think that is an argument, obviously broadcasters should implement some discretion, but really it’s your choice to subscribe to actually get these channels. You don't even have to have a TV, I think your argument falls short.

[gem]

The "Protecting Marriage" section of the 2004 Republican (Bush) platform says clearly that "legal recognition and the accompanying benefits afforded couples should be preserved for that unique and special union of one man and one woman which has historically been called marriage." Thus the Bush platform says that the Constitution ought to be amended so that states have no right to allow civil unions.

Young, you are, however, correct in that, when told during a television interview what his platform says, Bush said that his platform was wrong. Bush said that civil unions should be allowed, but didn't happen to agree with the party platform he approved. Young, you like your hero, Bush, serve no one better than the Author of Confusion. You are for states' rights but you are also in support of a party that is against the rights of states to decide to recognize civil unions. Eight of the eleven state measures against gay marriage also prohibit domestic partnerships.

If you and I both pray that God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven, and if Jesus is correct when he says that there is no marriage in heaven, why is barring civil unions or marriage of people like me and my partner of nearly thirty years so important to you? I see you and the great host of self-righteous as so distracted by things that are not your business or that are of lesser importance you can't tell when progress is being made and when it is not. If you believe that the basis of the right way is to do unto onthers as you would have done unto yourself, don't you think it would be good to be clear rather than confusing?

Jesus praises a man who comes to him and tells Jesus what he intends to do about the wrong he has done to others. Don't you think your Bush did wrong to approve of a platform that he later said was wrong because it would deny the right of states to recognize civil unions. Bush admited that his platform was wrong and said that he didn't agree with it, but he offers no help to those who may be wronged as a result of his lack of integrity. He didn't even apologize for the confusion he himself caused.

[Lilith]

Garriage? I just learned a new word. Hedrosexaul? I thought it was hetrosexual, but maybe I'm behind the times. lol.

[gem]

Young, when you say that:

"A Man who lays (sic) with a Man as a Man would lay (sic) with a Woman,
will not be allowed to enter the kingdom of God.
Blasphemy is the only other Sin that carries that weight,
and that's only if You don't ask for forgiveness."

you are not speaking the truth. The same word (to-ay-baw) that appears in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 appears many other places. The punishment mentioned in 20:13 is the same as for acts between men and women in the same chapter. In Genesis 43:32 it is written that it is an abomination (to-ay-baw) to the Egyptians to eat bread with a Hebrew. Proverbs 11 begins by saying that a false balance is abomination (to-ay-baw) to the Lord.

You say something is a fact when it is not.

Leviticus 19:35,36 also declares that those receiving this law shall be just in weights and measures. Young, why are you using false balances to make it appear that I commit a sin more terrible than any other except for unrepentant blasphemy? You have judged me and many others with false balances. In Genesis the Creator says that it is not good that man is alone. My partner agree with our Creator on this. We thank the Creator for bringing us together. We with God delight in just balances (Proverbs 11:1). Why do you only bring accusations against me and my help meet? Why do you not consider the things that can be brought to the defense of faithful partners? How like the serpent who made stories up in the Garden of Eden to confuse the first humans. What God purifies is pure. You bear false witness of me and of my Creator.

Go help John with his false humility problem (Rev. 19 & 22). And if you can't figure out how to get John to worship God instead of worhipping an equal, then come to me, one of the many you have judged falsely. Ask and I will help you. Or ask an atheist. Atheists don't worship angels or men. You may one day need to ask forgiveness of those you have wronged through your false dealings.

[Lilith]

The Devil himself could quote the Bible to suit his needs. Most people when on a rampage to prove a point, will latch on to this or that passage in the Bible that agrees with thier stance and blithly overlook the dozens of other passages that are contradictory or just plain don't make sense. Then again, alot of the Literalists refuse to remember the fact that alot of the Bible, espacially the Old Testament was simply written as a historical account of what was going on for those times and reflected the beliefs and practices of the people of those times. People change, beliefs change, thoughts change, etc. But change is scary, people for the most part stick to what they know, whether it makes good sense or not. A good majority of people want to be secure in thier knoweledge of what is going to happen after death or that the Saviour is going to come floating out of the clouds to take them all to heaven....for them to contemplate anything else, is madness. Me, I contemplate everything all the time.

[gem]

Thank you. Lilith. And as Origen said so long ago, the devil may repent. The dogma that declared Origen's faith anathema, tragically insists that the love of God or the God of love is resistible. Origen was condemned for saying that he could not rule out the possibility of universal redemption. I have to agree. Young's salvation does not rest on Young's condemning me.

[legallyblonde16]

While I think that Bush is against gay marriage I agree with Young on many other points. I apologize for the way he has stated his beliefs because it makes it sound that Christians do not love gays and that God does not love gays. Please understand that we love you as people but do not love your sin. Young is right in that God did make humans to be with their own sex. Genesis 2:22-24 says And the rib which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Now someone will probably point out the fact that it doesn't say that Adam and Eve were married but I think God makes a pretty God pastor and he is the ultimate Justice of the Peace.
No sin is greater than another I agree. I am a sinner I'll admit but I try my best to follow God's commandments everyday. While I make mistakes constantly I am not living in a life of sin continually. Do you understand what I am trying to say?
My personal belief is that homosexual tendencies are an outward show of some inner hurt. Whether the homosexual person was abused(mentally or physically) at some point in life or betrayed by someone close to them its not really a natural tendency. Its not something we are born with.
I also dislike sows like Queer eye and Will and Grace because whether we watch those shows or nor we are subjected to the advertisements. Then again I don't like seeing the ads for the Simpsons and That 70's Show because of the perverted nature of them. I think shows like that show the moral decline of our country. I am not saying that all tv is bad or that we shold all watch christian shows like 700 Club(which personally bore me out of my mind). I watch Lost and Numb3rs. I like the banter in Gilmore Girls although sometimes that show can get kindof risque. I don't believe that shows that have questionable material should be advertised during time slots where kids will be watching because their minds are fragile and they suck in everthing they hear.

[Matt W]

Legallyblonde, a tip for the future - check the date of these threads. Last comment before yours was DECEMBER. No-one's interested any more. Just a thought!