France starts WWIII

[snake]

I am a new member to this site and have observed the rampant anit-republican sentiment shared by many members. Republicans have been accused of just about everything, specifically Bush. In many eyes HIS war on terror as it is seen will start WWIII. If the GOP led White House even attempts to fight terror they are accused of mass murder and war crimes, however the french president states that he will use nukes to deter future attacks and noone even raises an eyebrow. Here is a topic, what should be done to stop this lunacy Girac and France is spreading?

No offense to our french members, I encourage your reply because you must be as outraged about Girac's decision as I am!

[snake]

The silence of the members on this site proves my point. No one here truly cares about the people or fallout of war, they only care to point out what they think the GOP is doing wrong. I am disgusted!

[Nono]

Jeez, snake, hold yer damn horses! (You wait four hours and conclude no one has anything to say? Un peu de patience, mon cher!)

First, I don't think Volconco has any French members. Yours truly is about as close as yore gonna get. Here's what I said about that 48 hours ago:

Chirac made a speech yesterday at a French naval-air station in which he reminded nobody in particular that France still had nukes and warned nobody in particular that these could, and would, be used against anybody who thought he could fool around irresponsibly with WMD. Regrettable as Iranian nukes will be, I think there's a good chance the mullahs will understand that using them would bring an instant shitstorm down on their heads.

So wake up, snake. Chirac is merely speaking the truth about nukes: They're still around and they're still plenty deadly. And if the mullahs think they can brandish them with impunity (which, of course, they certainly don't), they've got another thing coming.

So you're "disgusted" by "lunacy", eh? As Jesus said, "phyician, heal thyself".

[RickSp]

Snake, take a look at the any of the threads beginning with the words Democratic or Democrat and you will see that Democrats have been accused of among other things:

they have consistently defended and excused murderers, rapists, child molesters, and terrorists

I think in the long run the Democrats not only embolden terrorists to grow American soldier body bags, but they at this point are risking extinction as a major party.

The bulk of today's Democrat leaders, who subscribe to a political ideology and act and obstruct in ways that undermine America and undo much of what is good about America.

I think the whole problem the Democrats have is the party has elected lots of Dean like people to power who really believe most of America shares their 20% view.

What are the positions of Democrats and what are their stated goals outside of blocking everything Republican or any success our soldiers are getting?

And on and on it goes. There are lots more. The Anti-Democratic rant has had its own nastiness. I am not a Democrat but some of it has been way over the top. Look for yourself.

[Krazyjuice]

Republicans suck.

[madprophet]

What I find amusing is that Chirac's language is almost identical to that used by Donald Rumsfeld several years ago. Doesn't anyone remember the "I will not rule out anything" statement? And then, there's the Pentagon trying to make the more-usable nukes. Mini-nukes. Nuclear bunker busters. Ringing any bells? There's an old saying that comes to mind here--something about removing the plank from your eye before poking at someone else's.

[RickSp]

What I find amusing is that Chirac's language is almost identical to that used by Donald Rumsfeld several years ago. Doesn't anyone remember the "I will not rule out anything" statement? And then, there's the Pentagon trying to make the more-usable nukes. Mini-nukes. Nuclear bunker busters. Ringing any bells? There's an old saying that comes to mind here--something about removing the plank from your eye before poking at someone else's.

You obviously forget that the French are evil surrender monkeys whereas the Bush administration sits on the right hand of God.

Or not.

[Matt W]

This thread is being bumped to Misc. for obvious rule contravention - no misleading titles.

[SteveA]

I am a new member to this site and have observed the rampant anit-republican sentiment shared by many members. Republicans have been accused of just about everything, specifically Bush.

At least for me personally, I think the main problem stems from federal corruption but it's not limited to Republicans, if Democrats were running the show now you'd be hearing (at least me) likely complaining about liberal spending and how Kerry supports keeping us in a war there (I assume he'd be almost as aggressive in the middle east as Bush). It's not like Republicans are the only ones voting in support of new national IDs and greater police powers.

So, you might mistakenly interprete this as partisan where it's really simply based upon the actions taken by our federal government. Thank you for pointing out that we have plenty of Democrats that have voted to support most these things as well.

In many eyes HIS war on terror as it is seen will start WWIII.

It hasn't happened yet. Let's hope it stays that way.

If the GOP led White House even attempts to fight terror they are accused of mass murder and war crimes,

No, they're accused of war crimes when war crimes occur. We already let the guy use the military and expanded police powers to track terrorists down but he doesn't simply have an option to ignore things like the Constitution and the Geneva Convention etc.

however the french president states that he will use nukes to deter future attacks and noone even raises an eyebrow. Here is a topic, what should be done to stop this lunacy Girac and France is spreading?

I don't follow French politics much. I don't live there. Isn't he just parroting stuff Cheney supposedly said already? Maybe post a link about it here so people can read what you did. (Does anyone else think it's ironic that we've got national leaders talking about nukes yet I don't remember seeing a single terrorist making these threats .... kind of makes you wonder who the bad guys really are)

No offense to our french members, I encourage your reply because you must be as outraged about Girac's decision as I am!

There have probably been 100 times so far that some leader has started bringing up nukes as an issue. This generally seems a bad idea but it's truly an issue the French need to deal with. Up until this event the only real mention I heard of nukes was supposedly from Cheney ... I don't remember any terrorists using or even threatening to use nukes. The U.S. used nukes in WW II and seems to be the first person to bring up the subject ... so who's at fault here?

Anyway, I'd appreciate a link to whatever info you saw regarding this statement by Chirac. Thank you.

[PatrickHenry]

I am a new member to this site and have observed the rampant anit-republican sentiment shared by many members. Republicans have been accused of just about everything, specifically Bush.

Yeah, Republicans are the enemy. http://www.volconvo.com/forums/thread6471.html
They statists just like the OTHER enemy, the Democratic Party.
Bush is the current tyrant, though. He created 9/11, then obstructed and covered up the investigation of his crime.

In many eyes HIS war on terror as it is seen will start WWIII. If the GOP led White House even attempts to fight terror they are accused of mass murder and war crimes, however the french president states that he will use nukes to deter future attacks and noone even raises an eyebrow. Here is a topic, what should be done to stop this lunacy Girac and France is spreading?

The Whitehouse and its Washington allies ARE the terrorists. Their so-called fight is against pissant, johnny-come-lately muslim terror.

The President of France just made an observation that nukes don't solve anything. One nation uses them and others will retaliate. Solves nothing.

No offense to our french members, I encourage your reply because you must be as outraged about Girac's decision as I am!

There are no French members of Volconvo that I am aware of. They probably don't like arguing in English.

[Nono]

What I find amusing is that Chirac's language is almost identical to that used by Donald Rumsfeld several years ago. Doesn't anyone remember the "I will not rule out anything" statement?

If you have nukes and go around saying "Don't worry, we'd never use 'em" you rather undermine the whole basis for having nukes, and you could save yourself a pile of money and bother by getting rid of the things.

I say again: Chirac is merely reminding the Iranians (and others) that if you play with fire you might get burnt.