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Old Aug 25, 2006, 07:22 pm   #161 (permalink) (top)
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i'm in a mad-max kind of mood (i.e. post-apocalyptic sci-fi)...

anyone have a recommendation for this niche?


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Old Aug 25, 2006, 08:20 pm   #162 (permalink) (top)
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i'm in a mad-max kind of mood (i.e. post-apocalyptic sci-fi)...

anyone have a recommendation for this niche?
Snow Crash, by Neal Stephenson. Though it's cyberpunk, not really post-apocalyptic; otherwise, it's right on the Mad Max money.


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Old Aug 25, 2006, 10:58 pm   #163 (permalink) (top)
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graci... i'll give it a browse next time i'm at the book store.


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Old Aug 26, 2006, 02:20 pm   #164 (permalink) (top)
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Read Da Vinci Code and what I remember being said that stuck in my craw was "...the Catholic religion is a piratized religion. No kidding, so I've read several books, done some research, that explain why this is true.

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Not in the way the book says, though.



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Old Aug 26, 2006, 02:22 pm   #165 (permalink) (top)
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Warning! Hypocrite Litmus ensues:

To those who lend DaVinci Code credibility and/or literary merit due to popularity I have just two words:

Left Behind.



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Old Aug 26, 2006, 03:42 pm   #166 (permalink) (top)
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i think you have to be borderlilne retarded to even have taken the da vinci code seriously in the first place..

but, alas - there are LOTS of people who somehow can't understand the difference between nonfiction vs. fiction.


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Old Aug 26, 2006, 04:04 pm   #167 (permalink) (top)
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Old Aug 26, 2006, 08:14 pm   #168 (permalink) (top)
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I always have a novel, usually nothing too challenging, in the truck to read over breakfast or during breaks. This last one I picked up (because it had an interesting premise, according to the back cover) is one that should appeal to all the conspiracy fans here, as well as the tech and ninja crowd.
"The Traveler" by John Twelve Hawks. VintageBooks Press, paperback, 2005 $6.99U.S.

"A cyber 1984...Page-turningly swift, with a cliff-hanger ending." - The New York Times
"The stuff that first-rate high-tech paranoid-schizophrenic thrillers are made of." - Time
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Old Aug 26, 2006, 08:58 pm   #169 (permalink) (top)
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I like ninjas :)



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Old Aug 26, 2006, 09:03 pm   #170 (permalink) (top)
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Old Aug 26, 2006, 10:05 pm   #171 (permalink) (top)
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I always have a novel, usually nothing too challenging, in the truck to read over breakfast or during breaks. This last one I picked up (because it had an interesting premise, according to the back cover) is one that should appeal to all the conspiracy fans here, as well as the tech and ninja crowd.
"The Traveler" by John Twelve Hawks. VintageBooks Press, paperback, 2005 $6.99U.S.

"A cyber 1984...Page-turningly swift, with a cliff-hanger ending." - The New York Times
"The stuff that first-rate high-tech paranoid-schizophrenic thrillers are made of." - Time
(Once again, Time wins the hyphen war with The Times in book reviews)
I read The Traveler, it was a B.O.M. Club pick. Fascinatingly odd story, I sent it to my son who likes page-turningly swift, first-rate high-tech paranoid-schizophrenic thriller books. Something about the author, I recall, or maybe that there was nothing said about the author, who seems to have a Native American name. What an imagination!

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Old Aug 26, 2006, 10:21 pm   #172 (permalink) (top)
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Wonder why people keep talking about Da Vinci Code, it was a mystery. But, the entire history of The Knights Templar is fascinating, mysterious. I recently read up on the Albigensian Crusade - A crusade carried out by the Catholic Church against the Cathars of Southern France. Took those crusaders three centuries to kill all those people., with a lot of help from the Inquisition force.
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Old Aug 31, 2006, 04:32 pm   #173 (permalink) (top)
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the last book i read was white oleander by janet fitch....it was great...
the books i'm looking forward to read are Lord of the Flies, Stalking Darkness, The Bicentennial Man and the Railway Childrens which i just bought yesterday.
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Old Sep 3, 2006, 05:28 pm   #174 (permalink) (top)
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I always have a novel, usually nothing too challenging, in the truck to read over breakfast or during breaks.
I usually have some sort of work of history going in the background. Am just finshing a paperback that I remember kicked around for many years in my childhood home and which I rescued a few weeks ago -- dog-eared, or rather (by the looks of it) dog-chewed.

It's 1940 by one Laurence Thompson, published in 1966, an account of that pivotal year in British history. Excellent: fascinating and beautifully written (in that ol' tux'n'bowtie BBC style). Thompson would at the time have known nothing about the role played in the events of 1940 by the fact that Brits had broken the Enigma Code (a fact made public in the mid-70s). But he burrows into numerous nooks and crannies that we thought we knew all about, but didn't. Riveting stuff.


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Old Sep 3, 2006, 09:12 pm   #175 (permalink) (top)
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Welcome to Volconvo, pathsofedenxo6. Post back and let us know what you think of Lord of the Flies. I don't know anyone who read it who doesn't have a fairly strong opinion of it, and not always positive.

Nono, "that ol' tux'n'bowtie BBC style" is what made all of PG Wodehouse's books enjoyable for me. And I recently went on a binge and read everything by Stephen Fry for much the same reason. Fry is a hoot.


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Old Sep 4, 2006, 10:02 am   #176 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, Wodehouse's Bertie&Jeeves stories are works of sheer raving genius.


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Old Sep 4, 2006, 08:21 pm   #177 (permalink) (top)
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Just about finished with "Overthrow- Americas Century of Regime Change From Hawaii to Iraq" by Stephen Kinzer.

W O W.

....Talk about dropping some missing links in my geopolitical puzzle.

Awesome book, and I highly reccommend it to anyone who is curious of the war and conflicts of the U.S. post WWII.


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Old Sep 11, 2006, 06:23 am   #178 (permalink) (top)
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My new book I am reading:

"War Powers: How the Imperial Presidency Hijacked the Constitution" by Peter Irons.

The American Empire Project
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 11:24 am   #179 (permalink) (top)
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i've been having this nagging desire to pick up one of my finance books and read through it.. not some interesting read, mind you - a goddamn textbook.

newest read here is the latest copy of investor's business daily.. i guess i'm on some 2 week trial membership there, even though i never signed up for anything.


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Old Sep 11, 2006, 12:47 pm   #180 (permalink) (top)
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I keep a copy of Gurudas, Treason: The New World Order at my bedside. He is more articulate and focused on the history of our present predicament than any other writer I have ever found. An excellent synopsis.

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"My purpose in writing this book is to awaken more people to the fact that these are very dangerous times for America. More and more of the rights we take for granted are being lost. Too many politicians have sold out to the special interests, and most people are too busy watching TV to notice or take responsibility for what is happening. In the name of stopping illegal drugs and crime, our rights are gradually being forfeited, as the federal government tightens control over the people.

"I have also written this book so that people can more easily look at the whole picture. I have focused my research on extracting information from hundreds of books, newspapers, and magazines so that people can more easily understand what is taking place in America. Some might say that several stories of government abuse that are heard in one part of the country don't appear too threatening. Yet when you look at many different incidents all across the country and grasp the full picture it is clear that something is wrong."

Gurudas' book has thirty-one pages containing 833 footnotes and an eleven page bibliography. He maintains that his book is totally documented from public records, with no theory. When asked why he wrote the book he said, "It's simple. I don't want our country to become a dictatorship. So, I did my research, and wrote my book."
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I wrote this book, Treason: The New World Order, because it became very clear to me that we are moving toward a police state, one which will be far more vicious than Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union, mainly because the technology is so advanced.

History shows us that there are individuals who want to control everyone and everything. My main focus was to combine lots of different information from many sources, supported by footnotes. There are 833 footnotes in all in my book. This makes it easy for people with busy schedules to investigate this subject. Our country is very much like Germany in the 1930's. At that time, in Germany, people were very busy with their personal and professional lives and did not want to get involved in politics, so a person like Hitler could take control of their country. There were some who gave warnings but they were considered negative and radical. Today, as then, gun control was brought in. Our gun control bill was taken almost word for word from the 1938 gun control law in Germany. There are a number of similarities between the two countries.

There is a plan to create confusion and fear in our country. Then bring in leaders who guide us toward a police state. One of the main focuses of my book is describing the threat to our country as a free society. This threat is created by corporations and banks. Many solutions have been suggested about how to handle this problem of centralized economic power. One suggestion is to return to our political heritage, to restore our constitutional government with its checks and balances. At one time corporations had to exist for the good of the community. In what way are these large corporations that are closing down in the U.S. and moving hundreds of thousands of jobs overseas serving the welfare of our communities? The system of checks and balances and our heritage has been gradually lost. The states have lowered their standards (for monitoring the corporations) and less and less has been required in each state now.

In hundreds of books, articles, and speeches in the 20th century, many influential and powerful people, including many in Congress, have called for a New World Order, and the surrender of U.S. sovereignty and individual freedoms to a one world government, usually involving the U.N. military and the transfer of it to a one world U.N. army.

LE: This is talked about openly in these many sources?

Gurudas: Very much so.

LE: If this information is public knowledge, why is it not filtering down more to the average person?

Gurudas: It is because the national media attacks people who discuss these issues and the media never refers to this body of literature. This is a classic example of how propaganda is used in modern times.

Throughout the 20th century this movement toward a one world government has been marching on. This is not new or recent. In his book Critical Path Buckminster Fuller gives a very impressive sweep of the 20th century, about the large corporations and their agents and the lawyers who basically control the country far more than the people understand. He talked about how all the gold was removed from Fort Knox by the 1960's.

LE: Where did it go?

Gurudas: It went to the banks. They own the country. Fuller called the CIA, "capitalism's invisible army."

Born into an English aristocratic family, the philosopher Bertrand Russell played a role in the British branch of the secret government. In his The Impact of Science On Society he discussed the planned terror: "I do not pretend that birth control is the only way in which population can be kept from increasing," he said. "War has hitherto been disappointing in this respect, but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation, survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full (of people). The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of that? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other people's. There are three ways of securing a society that shall be stable as regards population. The first is that of birth control. The second is that of infanticide or really destructive wars. And the third is that of general misery, except for a powerful minority." His point is population control.


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