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    Gay Adoption

    I was doing my Theory of knowledge project and came across this question:

    "Should gay couples be allowed to adopt?"

    I was just wondering what everyone's stance is on this :)


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    I personally don't think so (yet). More stigma needs to be cleared or the children will likely be subjected to bullying problems.

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    Quote Quote by: Stevejavson View Post
    I personally don't think so (yet). More stigma needs to be cleared or the children will likely be subjected to bullying problems.
    if you want to stop bullying then tell the bully to stop. not justify his actions by telling the victims they should not be around for him to bully.


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    Quote Quote by: SoylentGreen View Post
    if you want to stop bullying then tell the bully to stop. not justify his actions by telling the victims they should not be around for him to bully.
    Good point. However, I see us more in the stage of "how do we get the bully to stop?". Until then, I see it best (for children anyway) to be conformist.

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    Quote Quote by: Stevejavson View Post
    Good point. However, I see us more in the stage of "how do we get the bully to stop?". Until then, I see it best (for children anyway) to be conformist.
    in other words give in to the bully?
    you might as well put forward the argument that it should be illegal for women to leave their house at night because they might get raped.
    deal with the criminal, the bully, not make the victim feel guilty.

    you cannot stop a bully until he starts, and a bully will always find something to be offended by and someone to offend.


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    Quote Quote by: SoylentGreen View Post
    in other words give in to the bully?
    you might as well put forward the argument that it
    should be illegal for women to leave their house at
    night because they might get raped.
    Bullies have a goal of self-perfection. They feel they are either great, or on the path to greatness, and they cannot stand anyone unique who complicates their self-image. Their image usually has no merit, as it tends to have more to do with fear than actual respect, but they'll take fear over a damaged sense of self-worth any day. We don't actually need their approval. They have to bully us into feeling it is necessary. The fact that "popularity" often comes with a serious risk assessment shows just how phony it can be.

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    Quote Quote by: SoylentGreen View Post
    in other words give in to the bully?
    you might as well put forward the argument that it should be illegal for women to leave their house at night because they might get raped.
    deal with the criminal, the bully, not make the victim feel guilty.

    you cannot stop a bully until he starts, and a bully will always find something to be offended by and someone to offend.
    No, find a proper way to deal with the bully. Just as you throw a rapist in jail, you must also find ways to prevent rape in the first place. I feel we need to do more research on how bullies function to find better ways of dealing with them.

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    the proper way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them and expose their activities. it is also sensible not to make a child feel ashamed for something that they have no control over and really no need to feel ashamed for.
    there is a heap of research done on bullying just google Dealing with bullies.
    here is a specific one
    Resources for Parents Dealing with Anti-Gay Bullying | Family Fairness


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    Why does one child need 2 male or 2 female parents?

    As we can see, the requirements to reproduce is a male and a female. So why defy nature and eliminate one? Why would a male and a female be required to produce offspring if we were really intended to be gay?


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    Quote Quote by: DoctorBarber View Post
    Why does one child need 2 male or 2 female parents?

    As we can see, the requirements to reproduce is a male and a female. So why defy nature and eliminate one? Why would a male and a female be required to produce offspring if we were really intended to be gay?
    actually it's not a case of just producing the kid, your expected to stick around for 18 odd years and watch the damn thing grow up.
    although the requirement for producing is a man and woman, the reqirement for raising them is love and a lot of time. anyone can do that.


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    I agree. "Adoption" is about raising kids, not producing them. As we see all around us, any two humans of the opposite sex can produce a child. The requirements for child production are far less than they are for raising children. Orphanages themselves are testament to that.



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    Quote Quote by: DoctorBarber View Post
    Why does one child need 2 male or 2 female parents?

    As we can see, the requirements to reproduce is a male and a female. So why defy nature and eliminate one? Why would a male and a female be required to produce offspring if we were really intended to be gay?
    Since when have you ever cared about nature? Certainly you have no respect for science...

    I'm honestly unsure about this situation. Heterosexual children of such couples may find puberty even more confusing than homosexual children of heterosexual couples. I can't think of a solid reason to deny homosexuals the ability to raise a child, however, so until research comes along showing that homosexuals are unfit to raise children, I suppose I would support it.


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