Interesting Find

[Milton Bradley]

Is anybody here familiar with this "warning" to the West?


1) YouTube - David Rockefeller gets Warning from Benjamin Fulford (1of4)

2) YouTube - Benjamin Fulford & David Rockefeller + message to America p2

3) YouTube - (3 of 4) Benjamin Fulford interview with David Rockefeller

4) YouTube - (4 of 4) Benjamin Fulford interview with David Rockefeller

[lindsay7]

I'm not familiar, but I'm watching the first one now... interesting.

[Milton Bradley]

I wondered if anybody else had heard that this "gang" is contending that SARS was a bioweapon aimed at Asian peoples.

[lindsay7]

Quote by: Milton Bradley I wondered if anybody else had heard that this "gang" is contending that SARS was a bioweapon aimed at Asian peoples.

I've heard that theory. I think it could be true. I don't believe the official story of 9/11, etc.

However I don't like this Benjamin Fulford at all. We shouldn't look to him to save us from the evil ruling elite with his 'assassin ninjas'.

In other articles and interviews I've read of him, he has this strange story about the creation of Christianity and how it's all a lie - Jesus wasn't really the son of God and the Christian God was invented by the evil ruling elite a long time ago to enslave people. He's out to deceive mankind and turn them against God.

It's easy to like him. He speaks out against the conspiracies of the ruling elite, and he says he is going to bring peace, end poverty, protect the environment.
He speaks of all these marvelous things that are coming, like the technology to live forever and genetically engineer ourselves and become immortal 'super beings'. He promises all this is coming soon.

I have no interest in living forever on earth. I have no interest in becoming a highly intelligent genetically engineered 'superbeing'. This is an ultimate rejection of God, this is saying we don't need to die, we don't need heaven, we don't need God!

Peace, ending poverty, and protecting the environment are all good things, but none of that is as important as Jesus Christ.

Benjamin Fulford is trying to lead people astray.

In interviews, the 'fundamentalist Christians and Zionists' are blamed for the evils of the world. I think that Benjamin Fulford would eventually come after Christians if he gained the power.

anyway, there's my Christian opinion. I'm sure someone will tell me i'm crazy. meh.

[thx1138]

I've hear him before on the Alex Jones show... maybe but how can anyone know anything today?

[Jack]

Peace, ending poverty, and protecting the environment are all good things, but none of that is as important as Jesus Christ.

This is the attitude that caused me to agree with the premise of the "Religious belief is a deteriment[sic] to social development" thread.

[SoylentGreen]

lindsay7 This is an ultimate rejection of God, this is saying we don't need to die, we don't need heaven, we don't need God!

We just need to cling to a superstition created back when there was no choice or understanding of why we die.

Benjamin Fulford is trying to lead people astray.

or give an alternative.

anyway, there's my Christian opinion. I'm sure someone will tell me i'm crazy. meh.

As always happy to oblige

[lindsay7]

Quote by: Jack This is the attitude that caused me to agree with the premise of the "Religious belief is a deteriment[sic] to social development" thread.

It's not deterimental to social development to believe that Jesus Christ is the most important. That's not saying that everything else is unimportant or that we shouldn't do anything. Quite the opposite actually - the bible teaches that we are judged on our works.

For example -- Who is in Africa helping the poor? Mostly Christian organizations!

[SoylentGreen]

lindsay7 For example -- Who is in Africa helping the poor? Mostly Christian organizations!

And the cost of that help is to be forced to give up there own culture so as to allow christian propaganda to destroy there own way of life and belief. It is the christian dominated policies of colonialism that made the mess that is Africa now. The least Christians can do is try to clean up the mess they created.

[lindsay7]

Quote by: SoylentGreen And the cost of that help is to be forced to give up there own culture so as to allow christian propaganda to destroy there own way of life and belief.

If they are taught about Jesus Christ, it's an addition to their lives, it doesn't mean they lose their culture.

If athiests don't like it they could always start their own organizations to help Africans, and teach them about athiesm. But I guess Africa isn't your responsibility, is it? ....

Quote by: SoylentGreen It is the christian dominated policies of colonialism that made the mess that is Africa now. The least Christians can do is try to clean up the mess they created

So the past 9 years that I've spent as an athiest, Africa wasn't my problem, but now that I've become Christian, it's suddenly become my responsibility, but not yours because you're still athiest?

Assigning blame for the actions of previous generations is ridiculous, we are ALL citizens of this world and responsible for Africa.

[SoylentGreen]

If they are taught about Jesus Christ, it's an addition to their lives, it doesn't mean they lose their culture.

No it's a disruption of their lives.
Name one primative culture that has managed to survive intact after the theist priests are through changing their value system with a hypocritical and oppressive christian one.

If athiests don't like it they could always start their own organizations to help Africans, and teach them about athiesm. But I guess Africa isn't your responsibility, is it? ...

They do.
Nothing to teach about atheism it's not a religion merely a matter of understanding what is wrong with theism. Africa is everyone's responsibility, just because you can point to a few charities doesn't make you saints.

So the past 9 years that I've spent as an athiest, Africa wasn't my problem, but now that I've become Christian, it's suddenly become my responsibility, but not yours because you're still athiest?

Now that your a christian you can take the responsibility of coming up with excuses for not blaming religion for the damage done in the christian name.
As for when you were an atheist it would be up to your own personal choice as to whether you want to take any action on suffering in Africa. As opposed to merely making the claim that you care by being a christian.

Assigning blame for the actions of previous generations is ridiculous, we are ALL citizens of this world and responsible for Africa.

Really then as a christian what is your view of original sin?

[lindsay7]

Quote by: SoylentGreen No it's a disruption of their lives. Name one primative culture that has managed to survive intact after the theist priests are through changing their value system with a hypocritical and oppressive christian one.

Helping them out of their poverty and starvation is a ‘disruption’ for the better. Undoubtedly there have been atrocities committed in the name of God against primitive cultures in the past, but that’s not what is happening in Africa now. Unless you consider building wells and schools and helping to set up farms as atrocities.

They do. Nothing to teach about atheism it's not a religion merely a matter of understanding what is wrong with theism. Africa is everyone's responsibility, just because you can point to a few charities doesn't make you saints.

I didn’t say we were saints. I was using an example in response to Jack’s statement that 'religious belief is detrimental to social development'.

Now that your a christian you can take the responsibility of coming up with excuses for not blaming religion for the damage done in the christian name.

Jesus Christ’s message was pure. People have perverted it and done horrible things in God’s name, the worst mistake we can make. But no, I’m not going to blame belief in God and Jesus Christ for this, I blame the people who did it. There are plenty of Christians out there doing good - The problems were from people, not Jesus’ message.

As for when you were an atheist it would be up to your own personal choice as to whether you want to take any action on suffering in Africa. As opposed to merely making the claim that you care by being a christian.

Where did I make a claim that I care by merely being a Christian. I think I made it clear that actions are needed when I said …

Quote by: lindsay7 Quite the opposite actually - the bible teaches that we are judged on our works.

Quote by: SoylentGreen Really then as a christian what is your view of original sin?

To be more specific -- I meant assigning blame to one group over another is ridiculous, as we are ALL responsible.