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Sodfather · May 21, 2004, 05:21 pm

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Iulius Caesar in Shakespeare's Tragedy of Julius Caesar

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it."
George Santayana, Late 19th-, Early 20th-Century Philosopher

dotcoma · May 21, 2004, 05:30 pm

"What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a new world order...to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind...based upon shared principles and the rule of law.... The illumination of a thousand points of light.... The winds of change are with us now."
President George Bush
In his State of the Union message during the Gulf War.

"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance."
President George Bush
addressing the General Assembly of the U.N.,
February 1,1992

The Persian Gulf crisis is a rare opportunity to forge new bonds with old enemies (the Soviet Union). Out of these troubled times a New World Order can merge under a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders."

George Bush,
September 11, 1990

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity (the Persian Gulf crisis) to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind."

George Bush,
in his State of the Union Address,
January 29, 1991

PhanthomOps · May 21, 2004, 06:35 pm

Igotarock:

Damn, I forgot that one, I guess it's old age - thanks :) :) :)

A couple more:

President Herbert Hoover:
"We must seek revival of our strength in the spiritual foundations which are the bedrock of our republic. Democracy is the outgrowth of the religious conviction of the sacredness of every human life. On the religious side, its highest enlightenment is the Bible; on the political side, the Constitution."

Daniel Webster:
"God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it."

General Colin Powell, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff
"We must not forget the past. We must not forget those who sacrificed, but we must also remember the reason for their sacrifice. They died so tyranny would die. They died to create a better world for those of us who followed them. Their sacrifice was not in vain."

Colonel Oliver North
"Freedom. Our forefathers gave their lives for it. And the Constitution ensures it. But today, some believe that freedom should be restricted. Our First Amendment rights are under attack-from the Pledge of Allegiance to our right to pray in the public square. So, what does the Constitution guarantee us? The freedom to gather with our family, our friends and our communities. The freedom to worship-not restricted by laws or regulations. But, most of all, our right to free speech grants us the freedom to pray. For more than two centuries, the American cry has been "Let freedom ring!" It cannot be silenced by vague rhetoric or judicial tyranny. It cannot be silenced by talk of political correctness or intolerance. It CANNOT be silenced. Freedom. It is our most basic right. No one can take that away from us. America needs your prayers-now more than ever."

dotcoma · May 21, 2004, 06:57 pm

I can't believe you quoted Oliver North. That guy is a criminal.

Gorgo · May 21, 2004, 08:39 pm

When you can turn people on their head and shake them and no money falls out, then you know God's saying, "Move on, son."
-- A. A. Allen, (American faith-healer of the Christian huckster variety)to Marjoe Gortner, quoted in James A Haught, "Covering the Bible Belt II: A Freethinker’s Testimony"

Igotarock · May 21, 2004, 09:37 pm

Forgot this one:

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve niether liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

May 21, 2004, 10:00 pm

Samuel Adams
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

arclight · May 22, 2004, 02:49 am

"The harder I work, the more luck I seem to have. "
T. Jefferson

arclight · May 22, 2004, 02:50 am

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what is will be tomorrow."
-- James Madison, Federalist no. 62, February 27, 1788

arclight · May 22, 2004, 02:53 am

"The only good bureaucrat is one with a pistol at his head. Put it in his hand and it's good-by to the Bill of Rights."

H.L. Mencken

Gorgo · May 22, 2004, 07:12 am

"If you assume that there is no hope, you guarantee that there will be no hope. If you assume that there is an instinct for freedom, there are opportunities to change things, etc., there's a chance to contribute to the making of a better world. That's your choice."
-Noam Chomsky

PhanthomOps · May 22, 2004, 04:24 pm

"Don't ever forget that when you leave here. Don't ever forget that just because you deserve something it doesn't mean that you'll necessarily get it. And don't ever assume that just because you got something, it meant that you deserved it. Commencement is an opportunity to graduate to humility. Also never forget the struggles and the sacrifices of the generations of people who came before you -- people who built this university, who strengthened this nation and made possible the limitless opportunities that you now enjoy."
Condoleezza Rice

"Knowing that intercessory prayer is our mightiest weapon and supreme call for Christians today, I pleadingly urge our people everywhere to pray…Let there be prayer at sun-up, at noon day, at sundown, at midnight, all through the day. Let us all pray for our children, our youth, our aged, our pastors, our homes. Let us pray for our churches. Let us pray for ourselves, that we may not lose the word, ‘concern’ for those who have never known Jesus Christ and redeeming love, for moral forces everywhere, for our national leaders. Let prayer be our passion. Let prayer be our practice.”
General Robert E. Lee

Milton Bradley · May 23, 2004, 12:44 am

I usually quote the Founding Fathers, but since everybody beat me to it, I shall look deeper into the grey martter.

"It is not that things are difficult that we do not dare, it is that we do not dare that things are difficult." Seneca

"During the time a Mad Scientist goes mad, there is probably a time when he is only partially mad. This is when he will throw his best parties!" Jack Handey

" If God dwells inside each of us, like some people say, I sure hope He likes burritos, cause thats what He's getting" Jack Handey

"If a Christian already believes that the whole Universe was created just for them, there is obviously no limit to the delusions they can concieve. Thus, how do we reason with them." Me

"Technically, growing vegetables in Columbia was more dangerous to Americans then Al Queda before 9-11" Me

"If one wishes to advocate a free society, that is Capitalism, one must realize that its indespensable foundation is the principal of individual rights" Ayn Rand

" If a man does not know to what port he is steering, no wind is favorable to him" Seneca

"We most often go astray on a well trodden, and much frequented road." Seneca

"He who boasts of his ancestry is praising the deeds of another" Seneca

"Most men do not care how nobly the live, but only how long, although it is within the reach of every man to live nobly, but within no mans power to live long" Seneca 5 B.C. to 65 A.D.

"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between." Oscar Wilde

"TO disagree with three fourths of the British populace is one of the requisites of sanity" Oscar Wilde

"Why was I born with such contemporaries" Oscar Wilde

"The public is wonderfully tolerant, it forgives everything but genius." Oscar Wilde

"The oxen is slow, but the Earth is patient" Unknown

"I never let my schooling interfere with my education" Mark Twain

"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it" Mark Twain

"Most people are bothered by those passages of Scripture that they don't understand, but the passages that bother me are the ones I do understand" Mark Twain

"The difference between the right word, and the almost right word, is the difference between lightning, and a lightning bug" Mark Twain

"When we remember that we are all mad, the mysteries disappear, and life stands explained. Mark Twain

PhanthomOps · May 23, 2004, 01:01 am

Benjamin Franklin:
We will all hang together, or we will all hang separately, but we will all hang

May 26, 2004, 10:41 pm

My favorite quote is my signature. However, I really like this one too.
"Life is like a knife fight in a bar with a sawdust floor. If you get knocked down, you'd best get back up."

sixmillman · May 27, 2004, 06:56 am

A woman does not want the truth; what is truth to women? From the beginning, nothing has been more alien, repugnant, and hostile to woman than the truth - her great art is the lie, her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty.

Friedrich Nietzsche

sixmillman · May 27, 2004, 07:01 am

All democrats are insane, but not one of them knows it; none but the republicans and mugwumps know it. All the republicans are insane, but only the democrats and mugwumps can perceive it. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane. Mark Twain

Am I to believe in every absurdity? If not, why this one in particular? Sigmund Freud

Aristotle maintained that women have fewer teeth than men; although he was twice married, it never occurred to him to verify this statement by examining his wives' mouths. Bertrand Russell

Christ wants to slay reason and subdue the arrogance of the Jews...
Martin Luther

He who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god. Aristotle

Milton Bradley · May 28, 2004, 12:45 am

"Women, a mass of conflicting impulses." James Kirk on Star Trek

"I'm trying to think but nothing happens." Curly Howard, Three Stooges

moondusk · May 28, 2004, 01:05 pm

"Happiness, at best, is an illusory goal. It is not a destination; it is a manner of traveling. Happiness is not an end in itself. It is a by-product of working, playing, loving, living."
- Haim Ginott

"Don't spend your precious time asking 'Why isn't the world a better place?' It will only be time wasted. The question to ask is 'How can I make it better?' To that there is an answer."

"Life is not what you expect. It's what you don't expect that makes life worth living." - Lauren Cairns

"Men stumble over pebbles, never over mountains."

bugsbunny04 · May 28, 2004, 02:20 pm

Sex...Sex...Sex is not the answer. Sex is the question...The answer is YES! -old joke.

May 21, 2004, 06:35 pm	#23 (permalink) (top)
PhanthomOps Hot Lava Location: Glendale, Queens, New York Posts: 970	Igotarock: Damn, I forgot that one, I guess it's old age - thanks :) :) :) A couple more: President Herbert Hoover: "We must seek revival of our strength in the spiritual foundations which are the bedrock of our republic. Democracy is the outgrowth of the religious conviction of the sacredness of every human life. On the religious side, its highest enlightenment is the Bible; on the political side, the Constitution." Daniel Webster: "God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it." General Colin Powell, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff "We must not forget the past. We must not forget those who sacrificed, but we must also remember the reason for their sacrifice. They died so tyranny would die. They died to create a better world for those of us who followed them. Their sacrifice was not in vain." Colonel Oliver North "Freedom. Our forefathers gave their lives for it. And the Constitution ensures it. But today, some believe that freedom should be restricted. Our First Amendment rights are under attack-from the Pledge of Allegiance to our right to pray in the public square. So, what does the Constitution guarantee us? The freedom to gather with our family, our friends and our communities. The freedom to worship-not restricted by laws or regulations. But, most of all, our right to free speech grants us the freedom to pray. For more than two centuries, the American cry has been "Let freedom ring!" It cannot be silenced by vague rhetoric or judicial tyranny. It cannot be silenced by talk of political correctness or intolerance. It CANNOT be silenced. Freedom. It is our most basic right. No one can take that away from us. America needs your prayers-now more than ever." A Republican - Conservative - PRO-ACTIVE HAWK with compassion For God & Country - To Serve, Defend & Protect Lock & Load - Go In Hot - Praise the Lord & pass the ammunition

May 22, 2004, 02:49 am	#28 (permalink) (top)
arclight Molten Ash Posts: 53	"The harder I work, the more luck I seem to have. " T. Jefferson "Study the Constitution. Let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislatures, and enforced in courts of justice." -- Abraham Lincoln

May 22, 2004, 02:50 am	#29 (permalink) (top)
arclight Molten Ash Posts: 53	"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what is will be tomorrow." -- James Madison, Federalist no. 62, February 27, 1788 "Study the Constitution. Let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislatures, and enforced in courts of justice." -- Abraham Lincoln

May 22, 2004, 02:53 am	#30 (permalink) (top)
arclight Molten Ash Posts: 53	"The only good bureaucrat is one with a pistol at his head. Put it in his hand and it's good-by to the Bill of Rights." H.L. Mencken "Study the Constitution. Let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislatures, and enforced in courts of justice." -- Abraham Lincoln

May 22, 2004, 04:24 pm	#32 (permalink) (top)
PhanthomOps Hot Lava Location: Glendale, Queens, New York Posts: 970	"Don't ever forget that when you leave here. Don't ever forget that just because you deserve something it doesn't mean that you'll necessarily get it. And don't ever assume that just because you got something, it meant that you deserved it. Commencement is an opportunity to graduate to humility. Also never forget the struggles and the sacrifices of the generations of people who came before you -- people who built this university, who strengthened this nation and made possible the limitless opportunities that you now enjoy." Condoleezza Rice "Knowing that intercessory prayer is our mightiest weapon and supreme call for Christians today, I pleadingly urge our people everywhere to pray…Let there be prayer at sun-up, at noon day, at sundown, at midnight, all through the day. Let us all pray for our children, our youth, our aged, our pastors, our homes. Let us pray for our churches. Let us pray for ourselves, that we may not lose the word, ‘concern’ for those who have never known Jesus Christ and redeeming love, for moral forces everywhere, for our national leaders. Let prayer be our passion. Let prayer be our practice.” General Robert E. Lee A Republican - Conservative - PRO-ACTIVE HAWK with compassion For God & Country - To Serve, Defend & Protect Lock & Load - Go In Hot - Praise the Lord & pass the ammunition

May 21, 2004, 05:21 pm	#21 (permalink) (top)
Sodfather Igneous Magma Posts: 327	"Cowards die many times before their deaths, The valiant never taste of death but once." Iulius Caesar in Shakespeare's Tragedy of Julius Caesar "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it." George Santayana, Late 19th-, Early 20th-Century Philosopher

May 21, 2004, 05:30 pm	#22 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	"What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a new world order...to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind...based upon shared principles and the rule of law.... The illumination of a thousand points of light.... The winds of change are with us now." President George Bush In his State of the Union message during the Gulf War. "It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance." President George Bush addressing the General Assembly of the U.N., February 1,1992 The Persian Gulf crisis is a rare opportunity to forge new bonds with old enemies (the Soviet Union). Out of these troubled times a New World Order can merge under a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders." George Bush, September 11, 1990 "The world can therefore seize the opportunity (the Persian Gulf crisis) to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." George Bush, in his State of the Union Address, January 29, 1991

May 21, 2004, 06:57 pm	#24 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	I can't believe you quoted Oliver North. That guy is a criminal.

May 21, 2004, 08:39 pm	#25 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	When you can turn people on their head and shake them and no money falls out, then you know God's saying, "Move on, son." -- A. A. Allen, (American faith-healer of the Christian huckster variety)to Marjoe Gortner, quoted in James A Haught, "Covering the Bible Belt II: A Freethinker’s Testimony"

May 21, 2004, 09:37 pm	#26 (permalink) (top)
Igotarock Molten Ash Posts: 42	Forgot this one: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve niether liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

May 21, 2004, 10:00 pm	#27 (permalink) (top)
Allan Guest Posts: n/a	Samuel Adams If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

May 22, 2004, 07:12 am	#31 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	"If you assume that there is no hope, you guarantee that there will be no hope. If you assume that there is an instinct for freedom, there are opportunities to change things, etc., there's a chance to contribute to the making of a better world. That's your choice." -Noam Chomsky

May 23, 2004, 12:44 am	#33 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320	I usually quote the Founding Fathers, but since everybody beat me to it, I shall look deeper into the grey martter. "It is not that things are difficult that we do not dare, it is that we do not dare that things are difficult." Seneca "During the time a Mad Scientist goes mad, there is probably a time when he is only partially mad. This is when he will throw his best parties!" Jack Handey " If God dwells inside each of us, like some people say, I sure hope He likes burritos, cause thats what He's getting" Jack Handey "If a Christian already believes that the whole Universe was created just for them, there is obviously no limit to the delusions they can concieve. Thus, how do we reason with them." Me "Technically, growing vegetables in Columbia was more dangerous to Americans then Al Queda before 9-11" Me "If one wishes to advocate a free society, that is Capitalism, one must realize that its indespensable foundation is the principal of individual rights" Ayn Rand " If a man does not know to what port he is steering, no wind is favorable to him" Seneca "We most often go astray on a well trodden, and much frequented road." Seneca "He who boasts of his ancestry is praising the deeds of another" Seneca "Most men do not care how nobly the live, but only how long, although it is within the reach of every man to live nobly, but within no mans power to live long" Seneca 5 B.C. to 65 A.D. "America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between." Oscar Wilde "TO disagree with three fourths of the British populace is one of the requisites of sanity" Oscar Wilde "Why was I born with such contemporaries" Oscar Wilde "The public is wonderfully tolerant, it forgives everything but genius." Oscar Wilde "The oxen is slow, but the Earth is patient" Unknown "I never let my schooling interfere with my education" Mark Twain "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it" Mark Twain "Most people are bothered by those passages of Scripture that they don't understand, but the passages that bother me are the ones I do understand" Mark Twain "The difference between the right word, and the almost right word, is the difference between lightning, and a lightning bug" Mark Twain "When we remember that we are all mad, the mysteries disappear, and life stands explained. Mark Twain

May 23, 2004, 01:01 am	#34 (permalink) (top)
PhanthomOps Hot Lava Location: Glendale, Queens, New York Posts: 970	Benjamin Franklin: We will all hang together, or we will all hang separately, but we will all hang A Republican - Conservative - PRO-ACTIVE HAWK with compassion For God & Country - To Serve, Defend & Protect Lock & Load - Go In Hot - Praise the Lord & pass the ammunition

May 26, 2004, 10:41 pm	#35 (permalink) (top)
dave654 Guest Posts: n/a	My favorite quote is my signature. However, I really like this one too. "Life is like a knife fight in a bar with a sawdust floor. If you get knocked down, you'd best get back up."

May 27, 2004, 06:56 am	#36 (permalink) (top)
sixmillman Igneous Magma Posts: 304	A woman does not want the truth; what is truth to women? From the beginning, nothing has been more alien, repugnant, and hostile to woman than the truth - her great art is the lie, her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty. Friedrich Nietzsche <span style='color:red'>For several reasons: the first being a lack of coordination (just look at the decline of the FSP) Liberty Landing</span> "<span style='color:blue'>The reason we can't find a relationship between the Constitution and the government is that there is none."-- Michael Badnarik</span>

May 27, 2004, 07:01 am	#37 (permalink) (top)
sixmillman Igneous Magma Posts: 304	All democrats are insane, but not one of them knows it; none but the republicans and mugwumps know it. All the republicans are insane, but only the democrats and mugwumps can perceive it. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane. Mark Twain Am I to believe in every absurdity? If not, why this one in particular? Sigmund Freud Aristotle maintained that women have fewer teeth than men; although he was twice married, it never occurred to him to verify this statement by examining his wives' mouths. Bertrand Russell Christ wants to slay reason and subdue the arrogance of the Jews... Martin Luther He who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god. Aristotle <span style='color:red'>For several reasons: the first being a lack of coordination (just look at the decline of the FSP) Liberty Landing</span> "<span style='color:blue'>The reason we can't find a relationship between the Constitution and the government is that there is none."-- Michael Badnarik</span>

May 28, 2004, 12:45 am	#38 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320	"Women, a mass of conflicting impulses." James Kirk on Star Trek "I'm trying to think but nothing happens." Curly Howard, Three Stooges

May 28, 2004, 01:05 pm	#39 (permalink) (top)
moondusk Molten Ash Posts: 40	"Happiness, at best, is an illusory goal. It is not a destination; it is a manner of traveling. Happiness is not an end in itself. It is a by-product of working, playing, loving, living." - Haim Ginott "Don't spend your precious time asking 'Why isn't the world a better place?' It will only be time wasted. The question to ask is 'How can I make it better?' To that there is an answer." "Life is not what you expect. It's what you don't expect that makes life worth living." - Lauren Cairns "Men stumble over pebbles, never over mountains." www.moondusk.com

May 28, 2004, 02:20 pm	#40 (permalink) (top)
bugsbunny04 Untrained Fodder Location: Alabama Posts: 1,354	Sex...Sex...Sex is not the answer. Sex is the question...The answer is YES! -old joke. Clean toe caps and a filthy mouth! Low morals and high morale!